I would love women to play five sets, says Amelie Mauresmo

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Another Telegraph article, it seems from the Guardian to the Telegraph their sports coverage is ok.

I would love women to play five sets, says Amelie Mauresmo​

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Amelie Mauresmo, tournament director at Roland Garros, would "love" to change the women's final to best-of-five sets.

Last year Mauresmo became the first former grand slam champion to take on a directorial role at a major event, and is also the first woman to do so at the French Open.

With one edition now under her belt, the former Wimbledon champion told Telegraph Sport that she felt "more prepared, relaxed and knowing exactly where I want the tournament to go" – and that could include a drastic change to the format for the women's event.

Although she says best-of-five sets would not work for the entire women's tournament, due to scheduling restrictions on site, she believes it could happen for the latter stages.

"What I’ve always thought, and this was also as a player, I would love to play a grand-slam final best-of-five or how it was at the year-end WTA championships," she said. "That is something that I would have really loved, and it’s definitely something that I would really think about, if that would add something to women’s tennis."

Currently the women play best-of-three sets at all of the major events, while the men play best-of-five. There was a brief period during the 1990s when women played the longer format in the final of the WTA tour-end event.

Asked about the feasibility of introducing longer matches from the quarter-finals onwards at Roland Garros, Mauresmo said it would need to be phased into the women's tournament over a few years.

"Maybe quarters, or maybe semis. The thing is, you cannot change it just like that. Because it asks a different preparation from the players. It would go through a different process of several years, maybe you start with the final."

Gender equality on show courts is 'tough'​

Mauresmo, 43, courted heavy criticism during her debut year as tournament director for scheduling men's matches for nine out of 10 night sessions on the main show court in Paris. Embarrassingly

She even had to apologise for saying the men's matches had "more attraction" in this era of tennis than women's.

The noise is unlikely to go away this year, as the first three night matches scheduled on Philippe-Chatrier have been men's matches, despite Frenchwoman and fifth seed Caroline Garcia playing her opening round on Monday.

Mauresmo still sticks by her decision-making and says she is happy with how things went last year.

"The first year was not easy, coming into the tournament I felt that I still had everything to learn. I knew it, and it’s what happened. A big part of my job is also scheduling, and I was pretty happy about last year and how I handled the thing, because my player past made it quite natural for me to know how it should be. That was ok."
 
There is literally zero reason that they shouldn't those last few rounds. I guess the issue will become their conditioning if the match goes long. Two exhausted players out there in the fifth just making errors wouldn't be much fun to watch.
 
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Women have played best of 5 set matches but it was many years ago, it's not like it's anything new.
For a tournament and probably only finals in year end championship.
And probably for 2/3 years only.

This is like saying stakovksy once beat Federer in Wimbledon so he beats fed a lot and it's not new.
 
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In the fifteen year period from 1984 to 1998 (inclusive), there was just one WTA event, the Virginia Slims Championship, that required only the women’s final to be played over the best of five sets. After 1998, the tournament final has reverted to being best of three sets like all other women’s tennis tournaments.
 
I can just imagine all the service breaks in a WTA five set match. I don't know if a lot of the females would be conditioned for five set matches seeing most of them never have done it. Could make the tournament a war of attrition over skill at least for a half decade or so until players got used to playing them annually. Would also make tournament scheduling much more difficult.
 
Mauresmo could maybe do five sets, and I've little doubt her compatriot Pierce could do back in the day, but what we are mostly going to end up seeing is a load of injuries and DNF's etc.
When women's matches exceed 21/2 hours, it turns into a slob fest.
Then there's the income...

How much revenue does the WTA make?

According to a ProPublica report, the ATP raked in a record $176.8 million in revenue for the 2021 season, while the WTA's income only reached $87.8 million. Since 2012, the men's income has been steadily increasing, while the WTA's revenue saw a sharp decline after hitting a record high of $109.7 million in 2019.

After 2.5 hours...:


In any case, asking for women in sports to get equal pay is sort of like when Jennifer Lawrence asked for equal pay.
Gervais says it better than I can:

 
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I think women's 5 set matches would be longer on average than men's 5 set. The men get more free points on serve and hit more winners, so the games are done quicker. If you want to equalize time on court, maybe a 4 set match with a tiebreaker if it's 2-2 sets.
 
No, it's clear even the top women don't have the talent and the skills of the men. I will be forced to watch the women now.
 
The women could clearly handle it.
The reality is the tour could not. Scheduling would be a mess.
I'm also worried that tennis would lose more ground.
I'm a tennis lover and would love to watch 3 five set matches during the day of a tournament (man or woman), but I think the general pop and general tennis fans do not.
It's sad because some WTA Slam finals have been 2 quicks sets. Feel unsastifying. Having a 5 set would give a better chance of some good drama being made.
But people no longer have the will to sit around and wait for it.

Unfortunately, it will probably go the other way, they'll start making the first few rounds of men's matches 2 out of 3.
 
I think women's 5 set matches would be longer on average than men's 5 set. The men get more free points on serve and hit more winners, so the games are done quicker. If you want to equalize time on court, maybe a 4 set match with a tiebreaker if it's 2-2 sets.
Why call it a slam for the women if they don't play BO5 sets or at least a superset 3rd set to 10. Nothing is different about these four tournaments for them at all.
If this were BO3 for men I'd get to see J.J. Wolf instead of Taro Daniel. Benoit Paire instead of Norrie (I'm okay with this), Leticiene instead of Khachnov.

Not many fans want to see 4 or 5 hour matches from men or women. 3 to 3.5 hours should be the max. for the player's longevity and for fan's interest.
How about a BO5 for both but the final two sets are the first player to win 3 games by 2 (e.g. 3 games to 1). If not, then a 7pt TB if tied at 3-3 in the 4th or 5th set.

This helps scheduling, no 5 hour matches, and players are fresh for their next match. Everyone wins.
 
Why call it a slam for the women if they don't play BO5 sets or at least a superset 3rd set to 10.
This might have to be the compromise for the future of tennis. I hate it in some regards, but it seems to solve a lot of problems for both ends of the tour.
Make slams B03 with a 3rd set that goes to 10 or 12. Then QTR finals on for men and women BO5.

Bring back BO5 to master finals for men and women or super 3rd set to 10 or 12.
 
Why call it a slam for the women if they don't play BO5 sets or at least a superset 3rd set to 10. Nothing is different about these four tournaments for them at all.
If this were BO3 for men I'd get to see J.J. Wolf instead of Taro Daniel. Benoit Paire instead of Norrie (I'm okay with this), Leticiene instead of Khachnov.

Not many fans want to see 4 or 5 hour matches from men or women. 3 to 3.5 hours should be the max. for the player's longevity and for fan's interest.
How about a BO5 for both but the final two sets are the first player to win 3 games by 2 (e.g. 3 games to 1). If not, then a 7pt TB if tied at 3-3 in the 4th or 5th set.

This helps scheduling, no 5 hour matches, and players are fresh for their next match. Everyone wins.

I was thinking about that since they switched 1000 level tournaments to 2 weeks. Before, the women were playing matches about every day at the end of the tournament, so it seemed more intense than a slam where matches are every other day. Now the only difference is that there are 128 players instead of 96 and top seeds.

I also prefer matches to be a max of about 3h. You can easily watch a whole match if you have other things to do or watch more players.
 
MAYBE the final, and only the final.... Maybe.
They can do it for the semi finals too since there aren’t any other singles matches scheduled that day. Go ahead and knock yourselves out and that they won’t be disturbing any of the rest of the tournament with five and six hour matches
 
why would scheduling be a mess when most of the field is already gone by the time quarters come about? Its only 8 men and 8 women left

what scheduling problems would there be?

Women's matches are way too short in BO3 anyway. They often end in less than an hour. Due to scores being 6-0 6-1 way more than men
 
The quality of tennis would suffer massively.

Don’t understand why no one ever brings it up.

The lack of free points and just general physiological limitations means that women playing 4 hour matches in set 5 would produce significantly lower quality of tennis than Bo3. A lot of retirements. It would not be pretty most of the time.

It would be a bad watch. And unfair to the players given that they build their conditioning and training around Bo3, not Bo5. Bad idea all around.
 
why would scheduling be a mess when most of the field is already gone by the time quarters come about? Its only 8 men and 8 women left

what scheduling problems would there be?

Women's matches are way too short in BO3 anyway. They often end in less than an hour. Due to scores being 6-0 6-1 way more than men
I think the scheduling would be problematic in the first few rounds of the week. Actually beefs up slam schedules in the 2nd week.
 
I believe the ladies can handle BO5, no problem. However, the early rounds would take too long. Perhaps making the QF-F BO5 only, with the fifth set a 10 point tiebreaker, for both men and women. Early rounds BO3 sets for everyone. That would equal things up and cut down the long matches.
 
I believe the ladies can handle BO5, no problem. However, the early rounds would take too long. Perhaps making the QF-F BO5 only, with the fifth set a 10 point tiebreaker, for both men and women. Early rounds BO3 sets for everyone. That would equal things up and cut down the long matches.
no, BO5 is what's great about men's grand slam tennis and it should never be BO3
 
Now that you retired you do LOL.

The idea is terrible, anyway. It's not gonna make the women's matches more exciting if that's what she was suggesting.
 
Only the final. More than that is too much, for the viewers.
Men stopped playing "only the final" bo5 matches long ago. That occurred in some M1000 tournament finals until the mid 2000's. The reason was that it became too much, especialy when having to play consecutive days.
 
If Mauresmo is able to push through a Bo5 format for the women’s RG final (and maybe SF), I could see that triggering a chain of changes that leads to both men’s and women’s Slams becoming Bo3 with Bo5 reserved for only the last 2 to 3 rounds. While I prefer keeping the men’s side at Bo5 for all rounds, I could see such a format as an acceptable medium that achieves (1) equal match formats for men and women and (2) maintaining Bo5 for men in the most critical matches (SF and F).
 
If Mauresmo is able to push through a Bo5 format for the women’s RG final (and maybe SF), I could see that triggering a chain of changes that leads to both men’s and women’s Slams becoming Bo3 with Bo5 reserved for only the last 2 to 3 rounds. While I prefer keeping the men’s side at Bo5 for all rounds, I could see such a format as an acceptable medium that achieves (1) equal match formats for men and women and (2) maintaining Bo5 for men in the most critical matches (SF and F).
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