Identifying trhe best players from each generation

#1
Here, i list the best six players from each generation in the open era (players whose peaks coincided with each other.) An easy way to view which gen is the strongest and whose the weakest.

The generations they're placed in are based on their repsective peaks, not just their age. For example Boris Becker and Stefan Edberg are placed in Lendls generation despite being much younger, as their peaks coincided at a similar time. McEnroe is not placed in Lendls generation despite them being rivals and a similar age, as McEnroe was clearly past his peak years from 1985 onwards.

I am not attempting to cause debate about whose the best from each generation, rather to compare each generation with each other. Please don't shoot me if i didn't place your favourite at one :giggle:

Borg generation (best years 1974-1984)

1. Bjorn Borg 2. John Mcenroe 3, Jimmy Connors 4 Guillermo Vilas 5 Vitas Gerulaitis 6. Brian Gottfried

-27 majors between them (Australian opens are excluded due to the weak field of the tournament then.)

-Brian Gottfried was the David Ferrer of this generation. He held the record for most matches won without a major until Ferrer broke it.

Lendl Genration (best years 1984-1992)

1. Ivan Lendl 2. Boris Becker 3. Stefan Edberg 4. Mats Wilander 5. Yamnick Noah 6. Miloslav Mecir

-28 majors between them

-Mecir is arguably the best player not to win a major, had a good record against most the top players bar Lendl.

Sampras generation (best years 1990-2000)

1. Pete Sampras 2. Andre Agassi 3. Jim Courier 4. Thomas Muster 5. Michael Chang 6. Goran Ivanisevic

-29 majors between them

-Honourable mentions to Michael Stich and Richard Kraijeck, who were major winners and have winning H2H's over Sampras.

Kuerten generation (best years 1996-2001)

1. Gustavo Kuerten 2. Pat Rafter 3. Yevgeny Kafelnikov 4. Marcelo Rios. 5 Carlos Moya 6. Mark Philippoussis

-8 majors between them

-This is the weakest generatrion of the 20th Century. Philippoussis was the Kyrgios of this generation, but he did manage two major finals. Honourable mention to "tiger" TIm Henman.

Federer generation (best years 2000-2005)

1. Roger Federer 2. Andy Roddick 3. Lleyton Hewitt 4. Marat Safin 5. David Nalbandian 6. Juan Carlos Ferrero

-26 majors between them

-Excluding Federer, the "weak era" won 6 majors. Excluding Federer this gens strength is slightly stronger than the Kuerten generation. Like the Kuerten generation they had short peaks.

Nadal generation (best years 2007-2019)

1. Rafael Nadal 2. Novak Djokovic 3. Andy Murray 4. Stan Wawrinka 5. Juan Martin Del Potro 6. Marin Cilic

-40 majors between them.

-They've always competed against Federer

Nishikori Generation (best years 2014 onwards)

1. Kei Nishikori 2. Milos Raonic 3. Grigor Dimitrov 4. David Goffin 5. PCB 6. Diego Schwartzman

-0 majors between them.

-These six have 37 titles between them, weak era players Andy Roddick and Lleyton Hewitt each have 30. Thomas Muster won 41 clay court titles.

Zverev generation (best years 2017 onwards)

1. Sascha Zverev 2. Dominic Thiem 3. Stefanos Tsitsipas 4. Nick Kyrgios 5. Karen Khachanov 6. Daniil Medvedev

-Bullsheet Russian currently makes the top six ahead of Denis Shapovalov, who has yet to win an ATP title or reach a final.
 
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#6
Cool post. Hints that the Borg generation was excellent considering you count only 3 majors/years for them, although Borg and McEnroe didn't compete for long enough to have a larger total tally.

Would be interesting to add more players too. Sad not to see Davy, Tsonga, Soderling, Stich, Tanner, etc. Although if you have already Schwartzman for the Nishikori generation I wonder who you might add...
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
#7
Here, i list the best six players from each generation in the open era (players whose peaks coincided with each other.) An easy way to view which gen is the strongest and whose the weakest.

The generations they're placed in are based on their repsective peaks, not just their age. For example Boris Becker and Stefan Edberg are placed in Lendls generation despite being much younger, as their peaks coincided at a similar time. McEnroe is not placed in Lendls generation despite them being rivals and a similar age, as McEnroe was clearly past his peak years from 1985 onwards.

I am not attempting to cause debate about whose the best from each generation, rather to compare each generation with each other. Please don't shoot me if i didn't place your favourite at one :giggle:

Borg generation (best years 1974-1984)

1. Bjorn Borg 2. John Mcenroe 3, Jimmy Connors 4 Guillermo Vilas 5 Vitas Gerulaitis 6. Brian Gottfried

-27 majors between them (Australian opens are excluded due to the weak field of the tournament then.)

-Brian Gottfried was the David Ferrer of this generation. He held the record for most matches won without a major until Ferrer broke it.

Lendl Genration (best years 1984-1992)

1. Ivan Lendl 2. Boris Becker 3. Stefan Edberg 4. Mats Wilander 5. Yamnick Noah 6. Miloslav Mecir

-28 majors between them

-Mecir is arguably the best player not to win a major, had a good record against most the top players bar Lendl.

Sampras generation (best years 1990-2000)

1. Pete Sampras 2. Andre Agassi 3. Jim Courier 4. Thomas Muster 5. Michael Chang 6. Goran Ivanisevic

-29 majors between them

-Honourable mentions to Michael Stich and Richard Kraijeck, who were major winners and have winning H2H's over Sampras.

Kuerten generation (best years 1996-2001)

1. Gustavo Kuerten 2. Pat Rafter 3. Yevgeny Kafelnikov 4. Marcelo Rios. 5 Carlos Moya 6. Mark Philippoussis

-8 majors between them

-This is the weakest generatrion of the 90's, Philippoussis was the Kyrgios of this generation, but he did manage two major finals. Honourable mention to "tiger" TIm Henman.

Federer generation (best years 2000-2005)

1. Roger Federer 2. Andy Roddick 3. Lleyton Hewitt 4. Marat Safin 5. David Nalbandian 6. Juan Carlos Ferrero

-26 majors between them

-Excluding Federer, the "weak era" won 6 majors. Excluding Federer this gens strength is slightly stronger than the Kuerten generation. Like the Kuerten generation they had short peaks.

Nadal generation (best years 2007-2019)

1. Rafael Nadal 2. Novak Djokovic 3. Andy Murray 4. Stan Wawrinka 5. Juan Martin Del Potro 6. Marin Cilic

-40 majors between them.

-They've always competed against Federer

Nishikori Generation (best years 2014 onwards)

1. Kei Nishikori 2. Milos Raonic 3. Grigor Dimitrov 4. David Goffin 5. PCB 6. Diego Schwartzman

-0 majors between them.

-These six have 37 titles between them, weak era players Andy Roddick and Lleyton Hewitt each have 30. Thomas Muster won 41 clay court titles.

Zverev generation (best years 2017 onwards)

1. Sascha Zverev 2. Dominic Thiem 3. Stefanos Tsitsipas 4. Nick Kyrgios 5. Karen Khachanov 6. Daniil Medvedev

-Bullsheet Russian currently makes the top six ahead of Denis Shapovalov, who has yet to win an ATP title or reach a final.
The way you've determined the best years seems a bit inconsistent? Federer won more majors between 2006 and 2010 than anyone else yet the cut off for his gen is 2005? Chang and Ivanisevic didn't even win their major titles within that 1990-2000 stretch for another example.

Also...

Hewitt > Roddick
 
#10
Borg generation (best years 1974-1984)

1. Bjorn Borg 2. John Mcenroe 3, Jimmy Connors 4 Guillermo Vilas 5 Vitas Gerulaitis 6. Brian Gottfried
You can consider Borg > Connors because he is a better player (even if he has won less).
It can also be argued that McEnroe > Connors because he is a better player (even if he won less)

But it is very difficult to claim that McEnroe was better at that time (1974-1984) by Connors.... Johnnymac started at the end of 1978!:)
 

upchuck

Professional
#13
He was born in December 1989. That's more like early 90s than mid 80s. Nishikori, Raonic and Dimitrov are the Lost Boys of tennis in recent years. They had some talent between them but not one of them could win a Slam.
Nishikori was a late bloomer. Just a year younger than Cilic. 1989 might be more like early 90s than mid 80s, but it's also more like mid 80s than mid 90s so I don't know what you're saying.
 
#14
Cool post. Hints that the Borg generation was excellent considering you count only 3 majors/years for them, although Borg and McEnroe didn't compete for long enough to have a larger total tally.

Would be interesting to add more players too. Sad not to see Davy, Tsonga, Soderling, Stich, Tanner, etc. Although if you have already Schwartzman for the Nishikori generation I wonder who you might add...
Sadly not everyone can fit in :(

Davy, Tsonga and Soderling could never make the top 6 of the Nadal generation, nor Could Ferrer or Berdych. That is the strongest generation.

Stich was a hard one to leave out but i have a personal bias towards Goran. ;) Stich was one of the underachievers of the 90's, had a quality all round game that he couldn't make best use of. Not unlike Dimitrov.

Gottfried is marginally better than Roscoe.

Schwartzman really is the sixth best of the Nishikori generation, after that you get players like Paire and Basilashvilli. That gen is astonishingly weak.

The way you've determined the best years seems a bit inconsistent? Federer won more majors between 2006 and 2010 than anyone else yet the cut off for his gen is 2005? Chang and Ivanisevic didn't even win their major titles within that 1990-2000 stretch for another example.

Also...

Hewitt > Roddick
Mosr of Federers gen were past their best by 2006, hense the cut off point. Obviously Federer was still GOATing but he still belongs in their generation. He was one of the huge talents of the early 200's along with Hewitt and Roddick.

Hewitt > Roddick is highly debatable. I'm not going there!
 
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#15
The way you've determined the best years seems a bit inconsistent? Federer won more majors between 2006 and 2010 than anyone else yet the cut off for his gen is 2005? Chang and Ivanisevic didn't even win their major titles within that 1990-2000 stretch for another example.

Also...

Hewitt > Roddick
I think he was trying to consider performances of the cumulative top 6 relative to their best performances for the cut-offs. Safin/Hewitt/Ferrero/Nalbandian all basically had no notable titles/slam finals post-05 outside of the Nalbandian Madrid/Paris resurgence in late-07. Roddick was still relevant from 06-10 (slam finals in 06 and 09 and Masters titles in 06 and 10), but was not in the top 5 anymore in the YE rankings in any year after 05.
 
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