If age is such a huge deal, and such a "valid" excuse for RF's losses, then let's just divide up the tour in categories.

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
There weren't any dummies back then in 70's/80's bragging about h2h over older players either. No one cared about h2h. I see you mentioning Becker and Lendl.
The dynamic is totally different now. It's not the same, nowhere close. The fact that Fedovic and Fedal have played each other so many more times is proof how weak the field has been. They were always seeded so high that they had to beat everyone else to make it there and more times than not that's what happened. This is a slam race now between three guys and Fed is at a disadvantage being nearly 40 years old. Look at Nadal slowing down. Look at the ATP as a whole and look at these draws. Look at the older players and what's happening to them. Dropping like flies. The gatekeepers that could sneak a win off the Big 3. GONE
H2H is so irrelevant that it gets mentioned before every single WTA or ATP match...
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
Let’s see you defend your thesis. Start with explaining why Sampras, Edberg and Becker aren’t still active on the tour. After all, “age isn’t important” to a tennis player.
I never said age wasn't important. That's why I'm suggesting a division of classes in the first place.

Right?

On a more serious note... Age doesn't matter as an EXCUSE, it does matter as a biological and physical phenomenon. Those are separate issues.
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
OverratedSlam can't it at the chin. Runs away with the tail in between the legs crying "Wolf"/"Personal attacks".
Ace...

... you're projecting again.

Just re-phrase your comment in the 1st person and... but we've been through this before. Your autobiographical posts being projected onto others, and all that...
 

Enga

Hall of Fame
And no millennial logic either existed back then.
I'm pretty sure people would have made excuses aplenty if they had a way to mass communicate back then. But now, we've got the internet where vocal minorities can have a podium and create arguments where none should exist.
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
I'm pretty sure people would have made excuses aplenty if they had a way to mass communicate back then. But now, we've got the internet where vocal minorities can have a podium and create arguments where none should exist.
Are you suggesting excuses didn't exist until internet showed up?

You're kidding, right...?
 

Enga

Hall of Fame
Are you suggesting excuses didn't exist until internet showed up?

You're kidding, right...?
I'm saying people back then would have done that a lot but there's no way to spread that kind of thinking like a virus. What're you gonna do in the 80's? Just grab the karaoke mic at the bar and rant about how many people make excuses about Borg's age? Lots of things get blown up and things that don't deserve attention get attention just because of the nature of the internet.
 

UnderratedSlam

G.O.A.T.
I'm saying people back then would have done that a lot but there's no way to spread that kind of thinking like a virus. What're you gonna do in the 80's? Just grab the karaoke mic at the bar and rant about how many people make excuses about Borg's age? Lots of things get blown up and things that don't deserve attention get attention just because of the nature of the internet.
Excuses. Did. Not. Get. Born. During. The. Internet. Age.

Commentators and journalists existed back then too. I swear they did.
 
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