If Alcaraz becomes a Legend, Djokovic will have 4+ wins in F/SF/QFs over Legends at every Slam + YEC in F/SFs

[junkieballer]

If Alcaraz becomes a Legend (top tier with Big3, Sampras, Borg, Laver), Djokovic will have 4 or more wins over Legends in finals, semis or quarterfinals at every Slam as well as 4+ in the finals or semifinals of the YEC.

7 at Australian Open:

2008 SF vs Federer
2011 SF vs Federer
2012 F vs Nadal
2016 SF vs Federer
2019 F vs Nadal
2020 SF vs Federer
2024 QF vs Alcaraz

4 at Roland Garros:

2012 SF vs Federer
2015 QF vs Nadal
2021 SF vs Nadal
2023 SF vs Alcaraz

5 at Wimbledon:

2011 F vs Nadal
2014 F vs Federer
2015 F vs Federer
2018 SF vs Nadal
2019 F vs Federer

4 at US Open:

2010 SF vs Federer
2011 SF vs Federer
2011 F vs Nadal
2015 F vs Federer

5 at ATP Finals:

2012 F vs Federer
2013 F vs Nadal
2015 SF vs Nadal
2015 F vs Federer
2023 SF vs Alcaraz

Legendary stuff.

 

[junkieballer]

Federer only has 1 win over Legends at Australian Open and Roland Garros F/SF/QFs.
Nadal only has 2 wins over Legends at Wimbledon and US Open F/SF/QFs, and only 1 at ATP Finals F/SFs.

 

[Hitman]

So what is a legend for you? Double digit slams?

 

[junkieballer]

So what is a legend for you? Double digit slams?

Iconic champion of an era.

 

[Hitman]

Iconic champion of an era.

What do you need to win for that?

Just want to see if your by definition Sinner also has a chance at this.

 

[junkieballer]

What do you need to win for that?

Just want to see if your by definition Sinner also has a chance at this.

Dominate your peers and achieve more than them for several years. There are many metrics for dominance.

 

[Hitman]

Dominate your peers and achieve more than them for several years. There are many metrics for dominance.

OK, so Sinner can do this, he is just behind the curve when compared to Alcaraz right now.

 

[BorgTheGOAT]

so wasn't your holy cut-off typically semifinals (or even finals depending on what fit your agenda)? Now out of a sudden quarterfinals are also important?

 

[junkieballer]

so wasn't your holy cut-off typically semifinals (or even finals depending on what fit your agenda)? Now out of a sudden quarterfinals are also important?

whatever fits my agenda, bro

 

[ErnestoVillanuevaCagliate]

I think Djokovic needs wins over alcaraz and Sinner in slam final. Not impossible but unlikely to achieve both. Clock is ticking

 

[Hitman]

I think Djokovic needs wins over alcaraz and Sinner in slam final. Not impossible but unlikely to achieve both. Clock is ticking

Not happening. He isn't beating either in a slam final at this stage.

 

[ErnestoVillanuevaCagliate]

Not happening. He isn't beating either in a slam final at this stage.

Who knows. I see him beating Sinner maybe in Winby final and Carlos in US O.

But yes chances like 25 %

 

[Hitman]

Who knows. I see him beating Sinner maybe in Winby final and Carlos in US O.

But yes chances like 25 %

Sure, no one has seen the future, I'm just going on what I think, as Djokovic would be very empty on energy to navigate 6 best of five matches to make the final.

 

[junkieballer]

I think Djokovic needs wins over alcaraz and Sinner in slam final. Not impossible but unlikely to achieve both. Clock is ticking

he doesn't ''need'' anything. It would be cool, but he doesn't ''need'' it

 

[NachoGPT]

Carlos has 7 slams. Only one less than Hewitt, Murray, Roddick, and Safin combined. He’s a legend.

 

[Hitman]

Carlos has 7 slams. Only one less than Hewitt, Murray, Roddick, and Safin combined. He’s a legend.

Or you can say, he is equal to Murray, Wawrinka and Del Potro combined.

 

[NachoGPT]

Or you can say, he is equal to Murray, Wawrinka and Del Potro combined.

Included Roddick, Hewitt, and Safin to ragebait Fraud fans. lol

 

[Hitman]

Included Roddick, Hewitt, and Safin to ragebait Fraud fans. lol

 

[junkieballer]

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[FeroBango]

Or you can say, he is equal to Murray, Wawrinka and Del Potro combined.

For further greatness talk, he's a whole Murray ahead of Sinner being 22 months or so younger.

 

[MeatTornado]

Included Roddick, Hewitt, and Safin to ragebait Fraud fans. lol

 

[big ted]

So wait a minute, does this finally make Djokovic the goat ?

 

[jackson vile]

As time goes on Novak’s achievements will continue to shine brighter and brighter

 

[ND-13]

Mods, please nuke these threads . They all are from my very insecure antivax fan base

 

[SonnyT]

As time goes on Novak’s achievements will continue to shine brighter and brighter

And he meets head-on with Alcaraz, the one player who could handle him!

 

[darthrafa]

So what is a legend for you? Double digit slams?

a legend to him/her is anyone that can create more unbreakable records for djoker

 

[Vincent-C]

whose alracaz

 

[junkieballer]

As time goes on Novak’s achievements will continue to shine brighter and brighter

Novak consistently beat two other GOAT contenders in every tournament. This is like Alì beating Foreman and Frazier.

 

[BlueB]

To me, a legend is someone who achieved something extraordinary, that would be talked about for long time. Like a hypothetical player, we discussed in another thread, that won CYGS and nothing else, or Little Mo’s teen run, even Goran winning W as a washed out player and a wild card at that stage.
So, Alcaraz already qualifies as the youngest career slam winner.