If Djokovic loses in straight sets to a qualifier on his best surface how can he have been a lock to win a slam?

Yeah sure, if Sir Andy Barron Murray is the Greatest Tennis Player of All Time in Scotland then Timothy Henry Henman OBE has a very strong case to be an All Time Great Tennis Player of England too.

You sound mad jello, old fruit.

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And yet...

If Djokovic loses in straight sets to a qualifier on his best surface how can he have been a lock to win a slam on that surface?
Because the qualifier has always showed great potential and played a great match against the #1 who, due to lack of play, was not at his very best though he did play very well. Well played, deserving qualifier win. Good for him!
 
Actually I was thinking Olympics, U.S Open, WTF. So yes one was indeed a slam.

Fair enough but that's the only slam he didn't win last year. It's also his 2nd worst slam and he faced the unique pressure of going for CYGS. Keep in mind that Med didn't show the same form at AO either, he was zoning in USO and blitzed through the draw (and yes I know the draw was easy but still).
 
Fair enough but that's the only slam he didn't win last year. It's also his 2nd worst slam and he faced the unique pressure of going for CYGS. Keep in mind that Med didn't show the same form at AO either, he was zoning in USO and blitzed through the draw (and yes I know the draw was easy but still).

I said 55-60% so I didn't say he wouldn't have won the Australian Open. I just don't see it as a certainty.

And FWIW Djokovic 100% wanted to win the Olympics. WTF is debateable to its personal urgency, but there is no question he wanted to win both the Olympics and US Open and failed to win both.
 
if Djokovic lost to a qualifier in Dubai, he could and would anywhere. Which includes AO22. Under any conditions: quarantine hotel, not quarantine hotel, pandemic/not pandemic, having had covid/having not had covid/having faked having covid...

No one ever is a lock on anything. If they were what point would there be to watch sports? I do find it pretty funny though that this was the outcome for him or that people on this site waste time speculating about outcome of phantom matches not played/never would have been played. :p
 
I said 55-60% so I didn't say he wouldn't have won the Australian Open. I just don't see it as a certainty.

And FWIW Djokovic 100% wanted to win the Olympics. WTF is debateable to its personal urgency, but there is no question he wanted to win both the Olympics and US Open and failed to win both.

Agree. I would say at this stage of his career he values an Olympic singles gold medal over every other individual title except another major.
 
I said 55-60% so I didn't say he wouldn't have won the Australian Open. I just don't see it as a certainty.

Not as a certainty but a strong favourite, and a near certainty against Nadal.

And FWIW Djokovic 100% wanted to win the Olympics. WTF is debateable to its personal urgency, but there is no question he wanted to win both the Olympics and US Open and failed to win both.

It doesn't matter if he wants Olympics, he always plays like crap there. Maybe he wants it too much, who knows. Either way not something I'd give to much weight when considering his AO chances.
 
Didn't Fed lose to Donskoy in Dubai after winning AO17
Yes but he actually played the full tournament and was obviously tired afterwards (and didn’t really care about a 500). For Novak this is his first tournament in a long time. He had no reason to not go all out. The only excuse is the lack of rhythm, which would’ve also been the case at the AO
 
Yes but he actually played the full tournament and was obviously tired afterwards (and didn’t really care about a 500). For Novak this is his first tournament in a long time. He had no reason to not go all out. The only excuse is the lack of rhythm, which would’ve also been the case at the AO
Don't know how he would've done at the AO, but I just wouldn't draw any conclusions from a loss in a Bo3.
 
Yes but he actually played the full tournament and was obviously tired afterwards (and didn’t really care about a 500). For Novak this is his first tournament in a long time. He had no reason to not go all out. The only excuse is the lack of rhythm, which would’ve also been the case at the AO


Djokovic should have been better off in Dubai since he had extra time to prepare and was not sleeping in a detention center before and during the tournament.

Also, his well documented 'case of COVID' is further in the past which would also presumably make this a better period for him than AO 2022 would have been.
 
If Djokovic loses in straight sets to a qualifier on his best surface how can he have been a lock to win a slam?

Please explain....
Guy hasn't played much competitive tennis this year with all the stuff going on.... is he not allowed to lose a match? Did anyone watch this match? Did Jiri not play well?

Confidence is a big deal for the top guys and not being able to play a lot makes a big difference. Vessely has already played 6 events this year!
 
Guy hasn't played much competitive tennis this year with all the stuff going on.... is he not allowed to lose a match? Did anyone watch this match? Did Jiri not play well?

Confidence is a big deal for the top guys and not being able to play a lot makes a big difference. Vessely has already played 6 events this year!

Sure, he's allowed to lose a match, Jiri played well and Novak may have had a lot going on. Did you notice however that Novak had a lot going on at the Australian Open as well?

Do you imagine that sleeping in a detention center, being actively hated by more people than ever and supposedly just having had COVID would have made for a less 'unusual' tournament than this?
 
Sure, he's allowed to lose a match, Jiri played well and Novak may have had a lot going on. Did you notice however that Novak had a lot going on at the Australian Open as well?

Do you imagine that sleeping in a detention center, being actively hated by more people than ever and supposedly just having had COVID would have made for a less 'unusual' tournament than this?
Absolutely a valid point.

I'm sure he's trying to get the tennis in when he can now that tournaments are having Vax rulings.

Besides getting the vaccine which he doesn't believe in. What else can he do? Play the tournaments he gets into and hope for some confidence where he can make it.
 
Yes but he actually played the full tournament and was obviously tired afterwards (and didn’t really care about a 500). For Novak this is his first tournament in a long time. He had no reason to not go all out. The only excuse is the lack of rhythm, which would’ve also been the case at the AO


Yes, all good points and that analogy didn't make much sense in the first place given the context here.
 
I'm waiting for a detailed break-down of the hard court kingdom so I know which ones count as hard court for these lofty purposes.

Based on the vague phrasing of your original post, I took it as a read that you meant a very specific court rather than hard courts in a general sense, especially as the term "hard court" wasn't even hard-coded in your previous comments, at least up until post #59.
 
If Djokovic loses in straight sets to a qualifier on his best surface how can he have been a lock to win a slam?

Please explain....
he would have lost to Nadal or Med if he played. Only Novak fans would say he might have won despite his form being terrible, losing to a qualifier? come on. be real. he would have lost to Nadal or med.
 
It's a way for them to make inane distinctions between different hardcourts so as to prove the importance of the AO even though it's by far the least prestigious Major.

An astoundingly pronounced phantasmagorical image of my humble & irrelevant in equal shares cisgender self, but no thanks.
 
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