If Djokovic repeats Novak Slam?

[BGod]

Throw in the WTF at that point he'd be at:

16 Slams at 7-2-4-3 spread
Most AOs
Double Career Slam
Most WTFs (tied)
Likely 2nd most weeks at #1
Likely tied for most YE #1

And of course holding all Majors twice becoming only man in OE to do it.

Clearly ahead of Nadal would he then rival Federer's legacy?

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

Needs to tie Nadal and then he will be ahead of him no question and he will still be far from Roger, I mean far

 

[BGod]

Needs to tie Nadal and then he will be ahead of him no question and he will still be far from Roger, I mean far

From a tennis player perspective that's ludicrous to say. Holding all 4 Majors alone puts him ahead of Nadal (held 3 of 4 on two occasions) then he'd be 6>0 on WTFs and about 100 more weeks #1. Stop.

 

[MugOpponent]

I don't think Novak is winning Roland Garros.

 

[3lite]

Needs to tie Nadal and then he will be ahead of him no question and he will still be far from Roger, I mean far

You can literally sense the fear in this man through your screens.

 

[Milehigh5280]

Way too soon to talk about this

 

[Djokinho]

I'm a Djokovic fan and I want to ask you to stop this stupidity.

This discussion will be valid if he wins the AO 2019.

Stop that nonsense.

 

[ewiewp]

Throw in the WTF at that point he'd be at:

16 Slams at 7-2-4-3 spread
Most AOs
Double Career Slam
Most WTFs (tied)
Likely 2nd most weeks at #1
Likely tied for most YE #1

And of course holding all Majors twice becoming only man in OE to do it.

Clearly ahead of Nadal would he then rival Federer's legacy?

6+ YE#1 would be significant.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

From a tennis player perspective that's ludicrous to say. Holding all 4 Majors alone puts him ahead of Nadal (held 3 of 4 on two occasions) then he'd be 6>0 on WTFs and about 100 more weeks #1. Stop.

Back in 2016 after winning RG to hold all 4 majors, He still wasn’t ahead of Nadal, It was 14 > 12

Djokovic needs to surpass Sampras first

 

[AlexanderTheGreat08]

You can literally sense the fear in this man through your screens.

Of Djokovic? 4 majors behind Nadal and he’s only 1 year younger , You’re right i’m scared , If he wins the USO I will be worried but still not scared cause he’s so damn far

 

[D.Nalby12]

Definitely GOAT candidate. Greater than Nadal.

 

[D.Nalby12]

Won't be surprised at all if he wins four in a row again. I don't see significant decline post 2015. His game is there. And field is worse.

 

[axlrose]

#15 is already a hard task...

 

[vex]

Stop posting this garbage. One slam at a time. Right now he needs to get 14 and lock in his place as #3 All Time.

 

[3lite]

Stop posting this garbage. One slam at a time. Right now he needs to get 14 and lock in his place as #3 All Time.

Even Sampras would tell you Novak is arguably #2 as we speak.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Even with a second Nole slam, he’d still be five slams behind Fed in order to pass him. So no, he’d still not be anywhere near GOAThood.

 

[vex]

Even Sampras would tell you Novak is arguably #2 as we speak.

Well, I don't see the argument for #2 but I know how singleminded people are about slams and as a Djoker fan I'd just like to see him get that #14.

 

[vex]

Even with a second Nole slam, he’d still be five slams behind Fed in order to pass him. So no, he’d still not be anywhere near GOAThood.

Yeah even if this fantasy happened the gap isn't even worth a discussion.

Regardless, One slam at a time.

I'd be shocked if Rafa didn't win one of USO/AO/RG here....

 

[BeatlesFan]

Even Sampras would tell you Novak is arguably #2 as we speak.

No he wouldn’t. Pete is 100% a slam guy. Until Djoker gets to 15 majors, Pete isn’t putting him ahead of him even with a CGS.

 

[Mainad]

Deleted post.

 

[NoleFam]

No he wouldn’t. Pete is 100% a slam guy. Until Djoker gets to 15 majors, Pete isn’t putting him ahead of him even with a CGS.

It doesn't really matter who Pete would put ahead of himself. Everybody else would, and they would do it if Novak hits 14 and ties him. He's already arguably had the better career and it's just a formality at this point to equal his Slam count.

 

[Gaelle Caplier]

The way Novak is playing, he would be lucky to win 1 out of the next 3. Nadal is the fav for the US Open and of course RG

 

[Tarkovsky]

The way Novak is playing, he would be lucky to win 1 out of the next 3. Nadal is the fav for the US Open and of course RG

according to bookies, Djokovic is favorite to win US Open

 

[Sport]

Throw in the WTF at that point he'd be at:

16 Slams at 7-2-4-3 spread
Most AOs
Double Career Slam
Most WTFs (tied)
Likely 2nd most weeks at #1
Likely tied for most YE #1

And of course holding all Majors twice becoming only man in OE to do it.

Clearly ahead of Nadal would he then rival Federer's legacy?

17 > 16. Would need another Major to surpass Nadal. The number of Grand Slams is the most relevant all-time great criterion. Other criteria are just tie-breakers.

In any case, Djokovic is not winning Roland Garros. So this hypothetical scenario looks unbelievable.

 

[Russeljones]

It would definitively signify the end of tennis as we know it. The weak era will make way for the weakest/back-to-amateur era.

 

[Bender]

not if fedr wins the CYGS in 2019

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

If he wins the WTF he would be 6-1 not 6-0.

He was comparing him to RAFA's lack of WTF titles.

 

[merwy]

Lol the guy wins one slam and you already start talking about another Novak slam. You Nole fans are unbelievable. I don’t know if this fan base is just really confident or plainly arrogant.

 

[Deleted member 3771]

if Djoker is going to take a few extra years to equal Rafa's slam tally then Djoker will need 2-3 more slams than Nadal to be as great as Nadal.

 

[kevaninho]

Remember he was hot favourite for the USO in 2014 before Nishikori took him out in the SF then too.
People need to stop getting ahead of themselves regards to Djokovic. Let the guy prove hes capable of winning everything like in 2015.
Im not so convinced. Yes he will probably be a solid favourite to go to finals, but he isn't unbeatable.
Also, as was said above, I don't think he will win RG next year, therefore the 4 slams in a row isn't happening.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

Djokovic to get upset and not win the title at the AO 2019.

You heard it here first.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Let’s calm down! I’m hoping for this but there is a long way to go to achieve this. I just want him in their open final!

Let’s walk before we run!

 

[BeatlesFan]

You Nole fans are unbelievable. I don’t know if this fan base is just really confident or plainly arrogant.

No sense of humor and utterly no grasp of tennis history either. Also an arrogant loathing of Fed and Nadal. Most have personalities like Novak’s dad, which is about as low as it goes. Obviously I am omitting the 2 great Djoker fans here.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

No sense of humor and utterly no grasp of tennis history either. Also an arrogant loathing of Fed and Nadal. Most have personalities like Novak’s dad, which is about as low as it goes. Obviously I am omitting the 2 great Djoker fans here.

Novak's dad has a great personality. Makes a mean fish soup too.

 

[Deleted member 756486]

No sense of humor and utterly no grasp of tennis history either. Also an arrogant loathing of Fed and Nadal. Most have personalities like Novak’s dad, which is about as low as it goes. Obviously I am omitting the 2 great Djoker fans here.

I think you’re generalising here. There’s plenty of Fed and Rafa fans that are just as arrogant and sometimes even more so.

2? There’s plenty of great Novak fans here.
@Hitman @Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil @NoleFam @125downthemiddle @Djokovic2011 @TheAssassin @TripleATeam just to name a few.

 

[Mainad]

He was comparing him to RAFA's lack of WTF titles.

Thanks, I should have realised what he meant. Have deleted my post.

 

[Backspin1183]

He just needs to avoid Istomin at AO and Cuppacino at RG.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

Remember he was hot favourite for the USO in 2014 before Nishikori took him out in the SF then too.
People need to stop getting ahead of themselves regards to Djokovic. Let the guy prove hes capable of winning everything like in 2015.
Im not so convinced. Yes he will probably be a solid favourite to go to finals, but he isn't unbeatable.
Also, as was said above, I don't think he will win RG next year, therefore the 4 slams in a row isn't happening.

I think he will beat Kei, he really dominates the H2H, it's 14-2. Kei is like a mini Djokovic. It was the heat that caused problems in 2014, if Djokovic was playing today, I would be less confident.

However, if the draw holds form and we get a Djokodal final, I don't at all think he is a shoe in. I'd favor him by a bit: 60/40.

As far as the Nole slam, won't consider it till USO is over. At that point, I would consider it but the problem is RG. After the last 2 years, Rafa has to seriously fall out of form again for me to not think he's the favorite there.

 

[swordtennis]

No sense of humor and utterly no grasp of tennis history either. Also an arrogant loathing of Fed and Nadal. Most have personalities like Novak’s dad, which is about as low as it goes. Obviously I am omitting the 2 great Djoker fans here.

Lmao i love how there are a couple on here djokovic fans included that believe they are the judge and jury on just what is great or not and who is cool and not cool. Just enjoy the tennis and celibrate dont hate.
And only a hate filled fedal fan would not think another 4 in a row would not be epic and historicaly awesome! Good luck to you and the cool clique!

 

[helterskelter]

No he wouldn’t. Pete is 100% a slam guy. Until Djoker gets to 15 majors, Pete isn’t putting him ahead of him even with a CGS.

What happens in "slam guy" world if they are tied at 14-14? Doesn't Djokovic end up ahead for making more finals and more semi-finals? Or does it default to years/weeks as #1? To my mind, if one really is all about the slams, then finals of slams ought to be the tiebreaker, which would mean that if Djokovic won the US Open, he'd overtake Sampras on Sampras's own logic.

 

[Deleted member 716271]

What happens in "slam guy" world if they are tied at 14-14? Doesn't Djokovic end up ahead for making more finals and more semi-finals? Or does it default to years/weeks as #1? To my mind, if one really is all about the slams, then finals of slams ought to be the tiebreaker, which would mean that if Djokovic won the US Open, he'd overtake Sampras on Sampras's own logic.

You can't really argue with that, but I bet that poster will try

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

Throw in the WTF at that point he'd be at:

16 Slams at 7-2-4-3 spread
Most AOs
Double Career Slam
Most WTFs (tied)
Likely 2nd most weeks at #1
Likely tied for most YE #1

And of course holding all Majors twice becoming only man in OE to do it.

Clearly ahead of Nadal would he then rival Federer's legacy?

 

[Plamen1234]

No sense of humor and utterly no grasp of tennis history either. Also an arrogant loathing of Fed and Nadal. Most have personalities like Novak’s dad, which is about as low as it goes. Obviously I am omitting the 2 great Djoker fans here.

I have see more loathing of Federer from Djokovic fans and especially Serbian Djokovic fans than from Nadal fans.Anyway the recent success of Djokovic have given them so much confidence that they are again having delusions that Djokovic will overtake Federer GS record.

 

[tennis_pro]

Way too early to tell but if he doesn't hit the decline button again in the next 12 months it will be all about the FO.

We can also start wondering how long will Nadal keep it up at the FO? He'll be 33 years old during the next edition.

 

[swordtennis]

I have see more loathing of Federer from Djokovic fans and especially Serbian Djokovic fans than from Nadal fans.Anyway the recent success of Djokovic have given them so much confidence that they are again having delusions that Djokovic will overtake Federer GS record.

Oh whatever. Fed fans outnumber any of the fan bases and dish it out on a non stop basis. Excuse me while i projectile puke even thinking about how mistreated fed fans are. It really falls on dead ears these whoa is me oh the humanity how dare we are treated so bad and we have been wronged thingy. Fed fans will lash out no matter what. Does not matter damned if you do damned if you dont move the goal posts! Who cares!!!!

 

[BGod]

17 > 16. Would need another Major to surpass Nadal. The number of Grand Slams is the most relevant all-time great criterion. Other criteria are just tie-breakers.

In any case, Djokovic is not winning Roland Garros. So this hypothetical scenario looks unbelievable.

In your world. But that's not how life works. 2 Finals doesn't equal a Title but those deep runs aren't just tiebreakers. Otherwise Borg & Laver with their lowly 11 Majors are afterthoughts right? Or how about Connors & Agassi with a pathetic haul of 8?

Homogenized surface, 32 seeds and Bo5 only at Slams are pretty big variables as well as poly strings and tweener racquets.

No I'm sorry it's not quite 17>16.

 

[uscwang]

I'm a Djokovic fan and I want to ask you to stop this stupidity.

This discussion will be valid if he wins the AO 2019.

Stop that nonsense.

Agree except the choice of word.
2018 USO, Nadal, Delpo, Nishikori are all strong competitors, past USO champions at least finalist.
2019 AO, Nadal, Federer, Stan, and Murray will be in the race.
2019 FO, Nadal is by far the favorite, and Thiem and Novak probably tie for 2nd place favorite.

It is definitely too early to talk about a 2nd Novak Slam. But these next 3 GS will be key for Novak, while the 20 somethings are collectively dominated by the 30 somethings and Novak gets to play his old buddies in later stages of GS.

 

[jm1980]

No sense of humor and utterly no grasp of tennis history either. Also an arrogant loathing of Fed and Nadal. Most have personalities like Novak’s dad, which is about as low as it goes. Obviously I am omitting the 2 great Djoker fans here.

Lol, what does "arrogant loathing" even mean? Is there "humble loathing"?

 

[ChaelAZ]

There is no such thing as a Novak Slam.

 

[Apun94]

If he wins 4 in a row again, he's GOAT. And yes, ahead of Federer