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Bionic Poster
Great comeback if you're 3 years old.Somehow.
Great comeback if you're 3 years old.Somehow.
Yes.I don't think it's a comeback, I think he just corrected your grammar.
Djokovic had a tough Cincy and Paris competition wise.Considering the competition has been a joke apart from Wimbledon, I have to give this to Fed.
I will flip this around just a bit. Which results would I rather see my favorite player have, Djoker's 2018 results(assuming that he wins the WTF), or Fed's 2009 results. Djoker's win at the WTF would mark his 5th title of the year to Fed's 4 in 2009. I'm leaning towards Djoker's 2018 results. Now granted, it was awesome to see Fed get to the finals of all 4 grand slam tourneys. And he pushed his opponent to 5 sets in the two slam events that he lost.
I would rather see my favorite player have Djoker's 2018 results. That WTF title is huge. With all of that being said, I believe that Federer had much tougher competition during his run. But as I have said before, this cannot be proven and I don't dock players for being the best in the world at an event. I am taking Djokovic's 2018 season.
I personally believe the the WTF should be worth a lot more points. It's like qualifying for the playoff in American baseball or Football. As it sits now, if Djoker goes 5-0 to raise the trophy, he'll walk away with 2.7 million dollars and 1500 points in the rankings. I would love to see both of those numbers double. There are no cakewalk draws for this event. And qualifying for it is quite an accomplishment.
I also believe the WTF should be worth more, but they have to balance it out with a Masters' event because only 8 players qualify! It just wouldn't be fair to award too much since it's an exclusive club that only the top participants can play!![]()
You have a good point. Tennis is far different in that the WTF matches carry over into the rankings points for the following year. This isn't the case for the other sports that I mentioned earlier. But I would still like to see this worth as much as a major. If a bottom-rung player stinks, then he won't pick up many points anyway. I'd like to see this event worth 2500 points to make things more interesting.
LOL what? Fed certainly had more competition in the slams in 2009 than Djokovic in 2018.I have to give it to Nole because he came out of nowhere with a lost 2017 barely registering in the rankings! He won the 2 biggest events and 2 Masters! He had all kinds of competition where Nadal was on the shelf in 2009 after his FO loss to Soderling! Fed barely squeaked to his Wimbledon win and admitted Andy choking that volley in the 2nd set TB saved his arse! There just wasn't much in his way thru his 2 big wins and then lost that USO to Del Po when up in the final! Since the summer, Nole's been almost unbeatable; Fed couldn't say the same for his '09 campaign!![]()
Nadal had been the tour's b*tch on grass before this year, so he needs to be discounted too.Oh stop; Nole wasn't Nole yet and the rest of those JOKERS were no comp. to Fed! Nadal owned his arse; even on grass and he was lucky he wasn't around for a lot of '09! Remember Nadal brought Fed to tears after beating him yet again at '09 AO! Roddick was Fed's b!tch so he needs to be totally discounted!![]()
Can't argue with that.Don't know about 2009 but better results than 2012 Fed, which is the year Fed turned 31
Reaching 2 slam finals is definitely better though.You people do it again and again. I've never seen people put so much stock in late tournament performances that result in losses like you do. Losing in a slam final will never be better than winning the year end championship title.
LOL what? Fed certainly had more competition in the slams in 2009 than Djokovic in 2018.
Yeah, let's bring up Djoko's competition this year instead:Rafa had been upset by Soderling so that was the determinant of Roger even getting his one FO title; NUFF SAID! Please! At Wimbledon, his pigeon was waiting to choke away another title to his lord and master! Spare me the comp. comparisons!![]()
Well, reaching all 4 slam finals in a season is a pretty rare feat that shouldn't be discounted.I brainfarted.
But yeah I definitely take WTF over 2 Slam finals.
That being said, I think the comparison between the seasons is quite unnecessary, cause it's basically an amazing 5 month stretch.
Haha these clueless Fed fanboys. With Rafa injured for the better part of the year, and Djokovic still non factor back then, outside of AO Federer's only competition at the Slams that year was green teenage boy Del Potro. And these guys have a nerve to talk about 2018 competition. LolRafa had been upset by Soderling so that was the determinant of Roger even getting his one FO title; NUFF SAID! Please! At Wimbledon, his pigeon was waiting to choke away another title to his lord and master! Spare me the comp. comparisons!![]()
Yeah, let's bring up Djoko's competition this year instead:
- Sub par competition at Wimb outside Nadal, who had been a tour pigeon on grass before this year, so let's discount him too.
- No top 20 players before the final at the USO and a Delpo with no BH who was significantly below his 2009 level.
Yeah, Fed wins handily.
And let's not talk about Fed's FO, otherwise I might bring up Novak's FO title, which was won thanks to the disappearance of not just Nadal, but also Wawrinka![]()
You trash Roddick, but I am the hypocrite one.You sound like an idiot saying "outside of Nadal" which went 5 extended sets over 2 days! That was enough comp. to justify his winning Wimbledon! If Federer had won it, would you have said the comp. stunk? I doubt it! Please seek some serious help for the hypocrisy of it all!![]()
You trash Roddick, but I am the hypocrite one.
And yes, outside Nadal, Novak's competition at Wimb wasn't anything to write home about. Just like Fed's competition at 2007 Wimb wasn't anything to write home about outside Nadal.
What is Roddick's H2H against Djokovic?Roddick was trash and overrated! What did he really do against Fed that impressed you that much? He was normally lucky to win a fk'n set at times! Please!![]()
What is Roddick's H2H against Djokovic?
We're talking about how he played on that particular day and on that particular day only. He actually pushed Roger harder in the 2009 Wimb final than Rafa pushed Novak in the 2018 Wimb SF.Roddick was trash and overrated! What did he really do against Fed that impressed you that much? He was normally lucky to win a fk'n set at times! Please!![]()
Just like Novak is Roddick's b!tch and Stan's b!tch in slam finals.Here we go with the delusional points! Go ahead and tell us; it'll make you feel so much better! Regardless of age, Fed's Nole & Rafa's b!tch!![]()
While you can probably look at a lot of things to compare those matches, saying one was pushed harder than the other purely based on scoreline is just not the way to go. Really, Fed/Roddick was a 'closer' match cause both are much better servers than Djokovic or Nadal.We're talking about how he played on that particular day and on that particular day only. He actually pushed Roger harder in the 2009 Wimb final than Rafa pushed Novak in the 2018 Wimb SF.
You don't have to reply like that. You said that Roddick was trash and overrated. But he beat Djokovic 5 times (to 4) and all matches were in Djokovic's 20s (so no teenage Djokovic). Hence, Roddick is a very good player.Here we go with the delusional points! Go ahead and tell us; it'll make you feel so much better! Regardless of age, Fed's Nole & Rafa's b!tch!![]()
Yeah, I agree. Not really worth cherrypicking the differences.While you can probably look at a lot of things to compare those matches, saying one was pushed harder than the other purely based on scoreline is just not the way to go. Really, Fed/Roddick was a 'closer' match cause both are much better servers than Djokovic or Nadal.
In fact, both matches were close enough that any difference isn't really gonna be significant and the scoreline based on the %of points won is subject to a huge amount of variation. Therefor, any 'x pushed y harder' is 100% agenda driven.