If Fedal go slamless this year will they consider retirement?
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newpball
Legend
He will likely go slam less and master less this year just like the last two years!
He has not won a slam in two years and also he has not won a single masters tournament in two years either.
But some people do not realize that, they are kind of slow on the down tick. :mrgreen:
If he should retire or not, that is obviously entirely up to him!
Frankly I think it is healthy for tennis if he retires soon. Tennis must move on and eternal fans can still dwell on hypotheticals for years to come "would prime F have beaten......{fill in the current champion}."
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SpicyCurry1990
Hall of Fame
No
Fed went slamless last year and came no closer to considering retirement. I think Fed will hang around until Rio 2016. Despite what this forum thinks about the Olympic Singles Gold, it is the only title missing on his resume and he will want one last shot at it.
Nadal will at least want to get to 14 to be indisputably #2. He is still only 28, he has 2 more seasons of being a top slam contender even if he goes slamless.
Fed went slamless last year and came no closer to considering retirement. I think Fed will hang around until Rio 2016. Despite what this forum thinks about the Olympic Singles Gold, it is the only title missing on his resume and he will want one last shot at it.
Nadal will at least want to get to 14 to be indisputably #2. He is still only 28, he has 2 more seasons of being a top slam contender even if he goes slamless.
newpball
Legend
2016? :shock:
Man, man, the sheer irrationality is reaching Jerry Seinfeld humor levels here.
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Fiji
Legend
I concur.....
So 2 of the top 5 players in the world should just up and retire if they don't win one of the big 4 tournaments?
Also despite being a Fed Fan you just can't lump Nadal and Federer together right now.
Nadal is the the #1 player in the world, a 4 time defending champion of a Grand Slam and is the reigning US Open champ and made the finals of the AO.
Federer is holding zero slams, hasn't made a final since 2012, nor has he won a masters 1000 since 2012. On a results basis these two just aren't on the same plane right now.
In fact.. when you read the current resume's like that you wonder how Federer is a top 5 player when he hasn't even done anything of note lately.
Also despite being a Fed Fan you just can't lump Nadal and Federer together right now.
Nadal is the the #1 player in the world, a 4 time defending champion of a Grand Slam and is the reigning US Open champ and made the finals of the AO.
Federer is holding zero slams, hasn't made a final since 2012, nor has he won a masters 1000 since 2012. On a results basis these two just aren't on the same plane right now.
In fact.. when you read the current resume's like that you wonder how Federer is a top 5 player when he hasn't even done anything of note lately.
newpball
Legend
No kidding!
:mrgreen:
Indeed!
All I can safely say is that marketing money is glad for this. F is big money in the tennis world, every time he reaches a QF or better there is general press and that means revenue. Remember the average 'Joe Blow' only knows F (and perhaps Nadal and Djokovic but that is already stretching it).
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helloworld
Hall of Fame
Where have you been hiding? There is no more Fedal! It's just Nadal and Nadal now!
xFedal
Legend
I hope Nadal doesn't get married same with Novak I dont want my hero's to get robbed with Alimoney
beast of mallorca
G.O.A.T.
:twisted::twisted::twisted:
sliceroni
Hall of Fame
No. He loves the game too much. Just as many Michael Jordan fans disliked him coming out of retirement again with the Wizards he did it for his genuine love of the game. With a net worth of $500 mil he didnt do it for the money. Who the f**** are we or anybody to say that somebody should retire just because they are now a shadow of themself.
underground
G.O.A.T.
It shows the state TW has turned into. Fed won and there are still trolls lingering around.
bjsnider
Hall of Fame
I don't think Federer is ever going away. He's already said he's in the game at least through Rio 2016, but I can't see him wanting to quit after that. He enjoys the circuit. A lot of people don't, but he does. He doesn't have any physical problems, and those types of players just kind of slowly fade away. They don't tend to have wet-eyed farewells. Eventually he will be playing more exos than legit events, but he's not going away.
newpball
Legend
Sure, everybody who is not an irrational exuberant sentimentalist with respect to F must be a troll. :roll:
well I agree with you in your general post about Fed and Nadal not being in the same equation....but here's an article that may surprise a bit (as always I use evidence for my assertions)... of course I'm not saying it actually means anything but in marketing terms and all that... well of course it's probably still Fed but maybe others might step up:
http://straightsets.blogs.nytimes.c...contest-is-murray/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
yes I think it's interesting too. as the article says, it's weighted on awareness where Fed of course wins. But on the other characteristics "appeal, aspiration, breakthrough, endorsement, influence, trend setter and trust", Murray is ahead. Now obviously that is to do with his struggles to break through as the article indicates. So what does it mean for tennis future? Probably awareness is important. Fed as a winner is loved all over the world and often people dislike Nadal (slightly - not me I think all the big 4 are great) for harming his legacy essentially. But it also points to another factor. That people identify with struggle as we can't all be Roger Federer. For the future, I think we'll probably have balance a bit more which actually might be bad, in terms of tennis as a brand, as it seems you need to have dominance and struggle to overcome to sell tennis so to speak.
Anyway, maybe someone will come through in the next five years. Disappointed with Djoko's ratings actually. He's super and should be higher (especially awareness - although that could be an Anglo-American thing)
Anyway, maybe someone will come through in the next five years. Disappointed with Djoko's ratings actually. He's super and should be higher (especially awareness - although that could be an Anglo-American thing)
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newpball
Legend
Yes, in many was he is a model athlete!
And he is sharp as well, speaking his languages!
Look at him as a kid, only seven years old:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtP0cMkjFpI
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yes I like him...I'm Scottish so therefore a Murray fan!! But Djoko I really like (fav big 4 player apart from murray who may or may not be big 4 any more!!).
I actually wanted nadal to beat Fed in 2007 (as Fed was too dominant or so it seemed). In 2008 I wasn't sure although I'd bet on Nadal to win as I saw his rise (essentially I could see his dominance coming and I prefer parity and real struggle and I saw a new era of dominance). After that I wanted Fed to beat him in majors (only nadal not Djoko or Murray)as I essentially don't like dominance. In the same way I want Djoko to beat Nadal now especially as Murray can challenge Djoko. It's not a personal thing, I really like Nadal. I wonder if that is what sells tennis. The dominance of someone and the struggle of someone else to overcome them only just managing it. I think people like that in sport in general so I'm pretty typical of your average tennis and indeed sports fan.
Fed as a brand though is something unlikely ever to be repeated. He's loved everywhere.
Anyway off topic I know but I though for a bit of broader tennis interest why not!
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Deleted member 77403
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Sentinel
Bionic Poster
I'd love to stick it to Nadal.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
:shock:?
You know nothing, not only Federer will play until 2016 I actually think he'll play for longer than that, of course if he's in fairly decent shape, so far he's maintained his body brilliantly.
PrinceMoron
Legend
Looking at videos of some posters playing tennis, they should never have started, in fact some of them never did.
JohnKramer
Banned
For Federer the right time to retire is end of 2015. For Nadal he is 5 years younger than Federer and if federer is retiring at the age of 34, Nadal should also do the same thing.
In the first place Federer should have already taken a respectable retirement like Sampras. He already went slamless in 2011 and 2013. By your logic Federer should have done that in the year 2011. But instead he continues to rob the opportunities from young players.
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The Green Mile
Bionic Poster
Lol, Nadal WILL NOT retire at 34 years of age.
And what do you mean rob the opportunities from the younger players? They younger players are so far a bit of a disappointment, and are not taking them.
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