If Federer wins US Open..

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Pretty much. It is truly insane what we have witnessed thus far... and may yet witness as this season continues to unfold.

Hopefully, people will float some other incredible feats of aging athletes. For individual competitors... this is tough to top.
 
See the thing with that is... it's no secret.

And it doesn't matter. Because his age offsets that stuff. He wrecked everyone. And he's been knocked down a bunch of times over the past 20 years or so, and come right back to the top every last time.
The weak era argument is just tiresome and not strong imo. Roddick could have been looked at as a great if it wasn't for fed and he was beating many players who in top form had grand slam game and actually won slams. Only players he beat who could be considered "weak" are baghdatis, Marky Mark, and gonzales.. that's 3 out of 19.
 
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The weak era argument is just tiresome and not strong imo. Roddick could have been looked at as a great if it wasn't for fed and he was beating many players who in top form had grand slam game and actually won slams. Only players he beat who could be considered "weak" are baghdatis, Marky Mark, and gonzales.. that's 3 out of 19.
Oh... yeah, as for when he was peak, I don't buy that the time period was "weaker" than it's been for the past several years. At least everyone was a young stallion, and not a broken-down decrepit shell, or a mediocre talent who only has a sniff at the top because of said shells.
 
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The weak era argument is just tiresome and not strong imo. Roddick could have been looked at as a great if it wasn't for fed and he was beating many players who in top form had grand slam game and actually won slams. Only players he beat who could be considered "weak" are baghdatis, Marky Mark, and gonzales.. that's 3 out of 19.

And look who Gonzalez straight setted en route to the final
 

Meles

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The weak era argument is just tiresome and not strong imo. Roddick could have been looked at as a great if it wasn't for fed and he was beating many players who in top form had grand slam game and actually won slams. Only players he beat who could be considered "weak" are baghdatis, Marky Mark, and gonzales.. that's 3 out of 19.
Roddick stunk and even he knows it (well at least subconsciously)
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BGod

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Yes but it's a matter of circumstance. Fed choked 3 USO matches 09-11 and would have won Wimbledon & USO in 2015 if mot for one man.

What if Borg played into his mid 30s or Edberg? Circumstances.
 

roysid

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Roddick stunk and even he knows it (well at least subconsciously)
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yeah Roddick knew who he was. Other than serve no big weapons and very inconsistent. He will scare the big players once in a while but regularly lost to lower ranked players in the earlier rounds.
 

Jaitock1991

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See the thing with that is... it's no secret.

And it doesn't matter. Because his age offsets that stuff. He wrecked everyone. And he's been knocked down a bunch of times over the past 20 years or so, and come right back to the top every last time.

Exactly what makes this so beautiful. His borderline redicilous age means no weak era argument would ever be valid(not that it ever was).
 

metsman

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yeah Roddick knew who he was. Other than serve no big weapons and very inconsistent. He will scare the big players once in a while but regularly lost to lower ranked players in the earlier rounds.
if by regularly you mean only at the french open or only when he was in his career worst form from 05 USO-06 Wimby or post prime then sure.
 

ChrisRF

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Don’t get me wrong, I would celebrate like crazy if he wins it. But deep down I would at least think for a moment: “What would have happened at RG if only he had participated.”

Most will say he would have lost to Rafa anyway, but I don’t see it such definitely. I’m sure the 3 H2H matches of 2017 would’ve had an impact on clay as well. Suddenly Nadal was beatable for Federer. If you say “But on clay???” I can only answer “He wasn’t really betable on slow hardcourt before as well...”
 
Don’t get me wrong, I would celebrate like crazy if he wins it. But deep down I would at least think for a moment: “What would have happened at RG if only he had participated.”

Most will say he would have lost to Rafa anyway, but I don’t see it such definitely. I’m sure the 3 H2H matches of 2017 would’ve had an impact on clay as well. Suddenly Nadal was beatable for Federer. If you say “But on clay???” I can only answer “He wasn’t really betable on slow hardcourt before as well...”

He talked a lot about how he needed to rest his body and prepare for grass. If he played RG, he would have to play a clay warm up as well, and the result would be less fresh legs for Wimbledon and less grass preparation. I don't think Fed regrets the way he handled that part of the season, and may skip RG next year too.
 

Sentinel

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Don’t get me wrong, I would celebrate like crazy if he wins it. But deep down I would at least think for a moment: “What would have happened at RG if only he had participated.”
Yeah, I was thinking that just the other day, for a moment.

But I think he also wanted to protect his knee. That's what I've read here, so not sure. He didn't want all that sliding on the clay. But this much is sure, he would have given a better fight to Rafa had they met. A closer match.
 

ChrisRF

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He talked a lot about how he needed to rest his body and prepare for grass. If he played RG, he would have to play a clay warm up as well, and the result would be less fresh legs for Wimbledon and less grass preparation.
As true as it may be, I think he just didn't need the rest THIS YEAR at Wimbledon. It was so easy that he would have won Wimbledon anyway. Of course he couldn't know it before, but the question remains if those kind of rest is necessary at all considering the 3 weeks between RG and Wimbledon now. I think Roland Garros - Halle - Wimbledon is perfectly possible. Stuttgart is irrelevant though.
 

BeatlesFan

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Another USO win would be huge on so many levels:

1. He'd be #1 again at 36
2. He'd almost certainly be YE #1 at 36
3. He'd be the only player to have won 6 slams at two different majors
4. He surpasses Connors and Pete in USO victories at 6
5. He would have won three slams in one year FOUR different times
6. #20 would further distance himself from anyone trying to chase his slam record.
 
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