If Nadal and Federer can do it then...
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Tennis_Freak99
Legend
As things stand, Djokovic won't be allowed to play there at 36, 37 and 38
Don't see him winning 39 onwards
Don't see him winning 39 onwards
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Bad trolling OP since Djokovic is not going to play in AO again due to 3 years ban.
ADuck
Legend
Why not? We don't know how long vaccine mandates will last.
ADuck
Legend
Ban can be easily overturned. Said so by Alex Hawke himself.
NeutralFan
G.O.A.T.
Okay , he will win or can win any slam so long as his pace is not gone , he still runs like he's 25 years old. The day he becomes slow like Nadal he will be an open season on the tour. I pick 35 .
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Medvedev will probably peak when Djok is 36-37, and its bad luck for Djok that Med specializes in hardcourt....
Karma Tennis
Legend
Too many variables at this stage ...
1/ We may see new COVID-19 variants or a new pandemic of a different virus appear that necessitate new vaccines.
2/ New vaccines may necessitate ongoing Vaccine mandates.
3/ Alex Hawke and his political party may not be in power by the time the next AO comes around. Who knows what Law will rule then.
4/ Djokovic may decide to turns his back an any future AO appearances.
5/ Djokovic may sustain an injury that prevents him from playing at the AO again.
Unless something really unexpected happens with SARS-CoV-2, it is unlikely we will see any political obstacles to Djokovic playing the AO again.
But then, SARS-CoV-2 was highly unexpected ... at least by most members of the public ... and we know what happened with that.
(I think it funny that most people think SARS-CoV-2 is a "one off" and that we are over this, we won't see another one for another 100 years. Science suggests otherwise. As the world opens up more and more, and humans penetrate deeper and deeper into unknown territories, the likelihood of the spread of deadly viruses actually increases significantly.)
ADuck
Legend
Yes. If he gets vaccinated then appeals the ban, the appeal will be accepted.
Karma Tennis
Legend
Djokovic can reapply to enter Australia at any time. Any application will be considered by the Australian Government and he could be granted a Visa on the basis of a number of conditions.
But at this time, it is very unlikely that Djokovic would be allowed to enter Australia without being fully vaccinated or alternatively without an appropriate medical exemption.
However, at some point in the future, both of those impediments to entry may be removed by the Australian Government. In that case, Djokovic could apply to enter Australia and could be granted entry on the basis of a range of factors too detailed to go into here. Suffice to say ... "In the national interest" is a legitimate reason to be granted entry.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
So the three year ban is on as of today, if nothing is done.
ADuck
Legend
I think people are not looking to the future and just focusing on recent events. It would really really shock me if Djokovic is not playing AO next year.
ADuck
Legend
Correct.
Sudacafan
Bionic Poster
After Nole’s recent statements, it would not shock me as something improbable.
initialize
Hall of Fame
Depends how long this weak era will last
Rattie
Legend
Not as I understand it. He has to have grounds for the ban to be set aside, namely compassionate or compelling reasons. Wanting to play sport isnt a compassionate or a compelling reason.
No matter whether he gets vaccinated or the vaccine restrictions are lifted, he’s subject to a re entry ban and doesn’t seem to fit the criteria for appeal.
Which would count him out of the AO until 2025
ADuck
Legend
So many days between now and the next AO. I guess I'm just counting on Novak wisening up by then. I think he'll realise at some point that the "risk" of getting a vaccine is well worth it. Billions of people have had vaccines and are fine, logically how could it be worse than being infected with the coronavirus? He's also not going to enjoy missing so many slams and that's going to get to him if he starts to realise his chances of winning the slam race are becoming non-existent.
Spencer Gore
Legend
I hope he refuses to return.
ADuck
Legend
Alex Hawke said it himself as well as many others after his ban. I trust him more than the article. But the article says in the second paragraph below the ban remove section that you can still apply for a visa under certain grounds.Not as I understand it. He has to have grounds for the ban to be set aside, namely compassionate or compelling reasons. Wanting to play sport isnt a compassionate or a compelling reason.
No matter whether he gets vaccinated or the vaccine restrictions are lifted, he’s subject to a re entry ban and doesn’t seem to fit the criteria for appeal.
Which would count him out of the AO until 2025
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helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
One variable is the result of the Australian elections later this year. Different governments might take different views of his case. The far left, authoritarian, liberal-communist-fascist government of the Liberal-National Coalition is pursuing the hard border policy, but given that politics are like a horseshoe, the even further left, authoritarian, socialist-communist-fascist Labor opposition might be more moderate because it's so far left, it's right.
Rattie
Legend
It doesn’t really matter what the politicians say, the law is the law and he’s no exception to it.
Do you mean apply for a permanent visa instead?
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Our prime minister is right wing...
ADuck
Legend
It totally does matter and it matters more than an article. He can play AO23 if he is vaccinated. That is the only certainty.
Rattie
Legend
It’s not an article, it’s an immigration lawyers website lol. It states what the law is. He can’t get his ban lifted unless he has grounds under Australian law. Not sure why that’s so hard to grasp.
Perhaps he will have the grounds somehow, just now, it’s by no means a given. Besides which he isn’t going to get vaccinated as he said himself.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
I know! I was joking. No tone in text, alas.
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
I think 2021 was his last one
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Nuclear
Guest
Thread to morph into another sarscov discussion in 3..2..1..
MadariKatu
Hall of Fame
The young guys will start stepping up, plus the loss of aura this whole situation will cause for Djokovic, he won't win again.
Djokovic2011
Bionic Poster
Why funny? I thought you said in another thread that you want to see him competing in the majors again?
BGod
G.O.A.T.
He won't ever play AO again.
1. He's technically banned for 3 years with extremely unlikely chance this change for 23 so he'd be allowed back 24 at the earliest and popular support unlikely.
2. Why would he want to come back unless he felt he couldn't be Slam leader without it? It would be downright pathetic to stoop down.
That said it is absolutely the old man Slam with Rosewall winning it at 36/37, Agassi won it at 32, Lendl at 30, etc.
1. He's technically banned for 3 years with extremely unlikely chance this change for 23 so he'd be allowed back 24 at the earliest and popular support unlikely.
2. Why would he want to come back unless he felt he couldn't be Slam leader without it? It would be downright pathetic to stoop down.
That said it is absolutely the old man Slam with Rosewall winning it at 36/37, Agassi won it at 32, Lendl at 30, etc.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Nah, he's not banned for 3 years just yet. And I doubt he will be.
BGod
G.O.A.T.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
It's still fixable. He can always apply for another visa.
MadariKatu
Hall of Fame
What I've heard (and others here have stated as well), is that the 3 year ban was enforced the moment he lost the deportation appeal. They're open to lifting the ban, probably if he vaccinates, or if the pandemic is over, but as of now he is banned for three years.
The_Order
G.O.A.T.
Why funny? I thought you said in another thread that you want to see him competing in the majors again?
The melts on here are the gift that keeps on giving....
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
If I was djokovic I wouldn’t want to go back after how they treated him.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
dapchai
Legend
If I were he I would definitely come there and get #10. At the end of the day who cares about what happened? People only talk about numbers and legacy. And wouldn't it be epic should he come back and annihilate everyone at his pet slam to show that what happened didn't affect him badly? What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Period.
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