IF Nadal defeats Ferrer, Murray, and Djokovic to win French

[McEnroeisanartist]

If Nadal defeats Ferrer, Murray, and Djokovic to win the French Open, do you think that would be his most impressive Grand Slam championship run?

Ferrer and Djokovic defeated him in clay court tune ups before the French Open and Murray pushed him to 7-5 in the third set.
Every player has appeared in a Grand Slam final in the last 12 months.
Every player has defeated Nadal at least twice in a Grand Slam.

 

[Finesse4sum]

I think only in terms of the time this is happening would it make it great.

Last year Ferrer couldnt even take Nadal to one tiebreak much less take a set.

It took Djokovic 5 tries simply to get Nadal to 5 sets but without any success.

Murray has never made a clay final.


Its only because Nadal is fading now that the win would make him look spectacular in the eyes of fans and analysts. Otherwise its pretty much the same old same old.

 

[monfed]

If his draw pans out like that, then yes it would be his most impressive slam victory.

 

[victorcruz]

If McEnroeisanartist stops creating nonsensical threads every two minutes, will that be the greatest day on TTW?

It would definitely be top 5 among greatest days here on ttw.

 

[mike danny]

Yes it would. And it looks like happening actually

 

[monfed]

Yes it would. And it looks like happening actually

It's certainly the most probable outcome.

 

[booson]

... Are you for real? :-/

 

[Omega_7000]

I don't think so

His opponents so far......Dusan Lajovic (#83), Leonardo Mayer (#65), Dominic Thiem (#57 & Age: 20), Robby Ginepri (#279)

David Ferrer is 32 years old.......32!!!

Andy Murray is recovering from a back surgery.......his confidence level isn't there yet and who knows how his back is. I saw him stretching his back a few times today.

Djokovic is the only tough opponent he could face.

 

[mike danny]

His opponents so far......Dusan Lajovic (#83), Leonardo Mayer (#65), Dominic Thiem (#57 & Age: 20), Robby Ginepri (#279)

David Ferrer is 32 years old.......32!!!

Andy Murray is recovering from a back surgery.......his confidence level isn't there yet and who knows how his back is. I saw him stretching his back a few times today.

Djokovic is the only tough opponent he will face.

Still for all the talk he had for facing a weak draw, beating those guys in back to back matches would make up for it.

 

[Mustard]

Djokovic is the only tough opponent he will face.

If you could choose anyone, who else would be "tough" for Nadal?

 

[Djokovic2011]

Yes, I think it would be.

 

[Deleted member 512391]

In 2011 he beat Soderling, Murray (arguably his best performance at RG up to now) and hot Federer in the final. Pretty impressive run, too.

 

[Bender]

If you could choose anyone, who else would be "tough" for Nadal?

There really isn't anyone who would fit the bill (and that's your point, I know).

Unless Soderling on Venom jumps out of a birthday cake and GOATs Rafa off the court, that is.

 

[Omega_7000]

If you could choose anyone, who else would be "tough" for Nadal?

Assuming you mean someone besides Djokovic.
DelPotro...But unfortunately he is out.

But from the current field, no one really...Everyone is either
- past their primes/ too old
- Too young and haven't won anything significant yet
- Could have potentially been strong rivals but sidelined due to injuries

Having said that Gulbis or Nishikori on a good day also have the potential to take him out.

 

[tennisaddict]

If you could choose anyone, who else would be "tough" for Nadal?

Classic weak era..Imagine the time of Borg and Lendl whether one could say this.

 

[oberyn]

Classic weak era..Imagine the time of Borg and Lendl whether one could say this.

I don't know about that. Borg's aura at Roland Garros definitely had his opponents intimidated. I forgot who said it, but one of his contemporaries said that a cardboard cutout of Bjorn Borg could have won the French Open.

Andres Gomez won the French Open in 1990. He has frequently said that the only reason he even played that year's clay court season (instead of retiring) is because Lendl announced early on that he was skipping the clay court season to prepare for Wimbledon.

I'm old enough to have actually watched tennis from the early 80s through today and I'm realizing that the only constant in any era is that people act as if previous eras were somehow better. I've now heard every era since I started watching tennis described as weaker than the one(s) that came before it. LOL

 

[Strobe Lights]

2009 Australian Open is his most impressive. It was not on clay (where he is the best ever) or grass (where he was 1-time Wimbledon champion plus 2-time runner-up).

Defeated an excellent Verdasco in 5 hours 14 minutes (then longest match in AO history) on the Friday night. Federer had straight-setted Roddick on the Thursday.

Then in the final, defeated an excellent (except in the fifth) Federer in 4 hours 23 minutes.

He has never had to play two such incredible matches in a row.

 

[SpicyCurry1990]

2009 Australian Open is his most impressive. It was not on clay (where he is the best ever) or grass (where he was 1-time Wimbledon champion plus 2-time runner-up).

Defeated an excellent Verdasco in 5 hours 14 minutes (then longest match in AO history) on the Friday night. Federer had straight-setted Roddick on the Thursday.

Then in the final, defeated an excellent (except in the fifth) Federer in 4 hours 23 minutes.

He has never had to play two such incredible matches in a row.

Ya I'd go with this. Add to it that up until AO 2009, Nadal had never even played in a hard court slam final before. Then he beat the hard court GOAT in a 5-set thriller after going 5 hours in the previous round on less rest.

 

[mike danny]

Ya I'd go with this. Add to it that up until AO 2009, Nadal had never even played in a hard court slam final before. Then he beat the hard court GOAT in a 5-set thriller after going 5 hours in the previous round on less rest.

I still don't understand why did Federer deflate in the 5th set.

IMO he should have just kept on playing. I doubt Nadal would have lasted for another epic 5th set after his match with Verdasco

 

[Maximagq]

He ain't getting past Djokovic sorry

 

[booson]

If you could choose anyone, who else would be "tough" for Nadal?

Not precisely tough but at least a less ridiculous RG draw could have included:
Klizan, Tursunov, Paire, Melzer, Cilic, Nishikori... And list goes on.

 

[Turning Pro]

In 2011 he beat Soderling, Murray (arguably his best performance at RG up to now) and hot Federer in the final. Pretty impressive run, too.

This^^^^^^

 

[sbengte]

If you could choose anyone, who else would be "tough" for Nadal?

Here's one example :

R1: GGL
R2 : Klizan
R3 : Gulbis
R4 : Verdasco/Anderson

His draw from the QF onwards is alright (assuming no more upsets), it is the first 4 rounds that is a joke. Of course none of the above guys would beat him, but they would push him enough to leave him with very little reserves for the second week.

 

[sbengte]

If Nadal defeats Ferrer, Murray, and Djokovic to win the French Open, do you think that would be his most impressive Grand Slam championship run?

Ferrer and Djokovic defeated him in clay court tune ups before the French Open and Murray pushed him to 7-5 in the third set.
Every player has appeared in a Grand Slam final in the last 12 months.
Every player has defeated Nadal at least twice in a Grand Slam.

Curiously, Nadal has never won a slam beating both Murray and Djokovic.

Let's see if it happens here.

 

[Bender]

Curiously, Nadal has never won a slam beating both Murray and Djokovic.

Let's see if it happens here.

I have my reservations because of this.

 

[tipsa...don'tlikehim!]

If you could choose anyone, who else would be "tough" for Nadal?

His name is Roger Federer

 

[tipsa...don'tlikehim!]

Not precisely tough but at least a less ridiculous RG draw could have included:
Klizan, Tursunov, Paire, Melzer, Cilic, Nishikori... And list goes on.

lol at Tursunov in that list :lol: agree with the rest

 

[forehand fan]

2010 wimbledon pushed twice to 5 setters in the first week. then faced soderling, murray and a red hot berdrych in the 2d week.

 

[forehand fan]

also 2008 fo. meet 2 very good claycourters ferrer and verdasco, then beat djokovic and ferrer back to back

 

[booson]

lol at Tursunov in that list :lol: agree with the rest

I don't think Tursunov would win, obviously, but he has solid shots, match experience and have already won against Nadal one time in their very few encounters.

 

[NADALRECORD]

I think only in terms of the time this is happening would it make it great.

Last year Ferrer couldnt even take Nadal to one tiebreak much less take a set.

It took Djokovic 5 tries simply to get Nadal to 5 sets but without any success.

Murray has never made a clay final.


Its only because Nadal is fading now that the win would make him look spectacular in the eyes of fans and analysts. Otherwise its pretty much the same old same old.

I agree, it is the same old same old.

Nadal's most recent slam result is making the final of the AO - its his 2nd best AO result ever. Whereas this time last year, Nadal's most recent slam result was 2nd Round exit at Wimbledon 2012.

Also, last year at Madrid, Ferrer had matchpoint in the 2nd set vs Nadal. So nothing much has changed in the rivalry this year (this year Ferrer beat Nadal at Monte Carlo, but it required an 85 minute 1st set which Nadal threw away with unforced errors galore). The only difference between 2013 Madrid and 2014 Monte Carlo is that Nadal had lost motivation for tennis after his depressing AO final loss which had him thinking like this-

''After what happened in Australia, (it) was little bit harder for me
to find again the intensity, the confidence, the inside power that
always I have,'' Nadal said. ''Even if I won Rio, I played the final
in Miami, you know, (this) remains something in my mind and in my
game.''

It took a while for Nadal to get over the AO shock loss, but right now he's better than he was in 2013, and that is why Nadal will destroy the rest of the field. His knees now are far better than they were in 2013, thanks to stem-cell therapy in December 2013. I know his back is not perfect, but its clearly not hurting his baseline game/movement, and his serve is not being hampered in terms of accuracy (and he averaged 107mph in his most recent match, which is not different to other years at Roland Garros). The big improvement between 2013 and 2014 is Nadal's knees are a lot better right now. He was literally dragging his knee during last year's clay season.

 

[rocketassist]

No his two most impressive slams will always be:

his first one (RG 05) because he was a kid yet he destroyed Ferrer QF, beat an established Federer in the semis and then Puerta who had played exceptional clay tennis all 2 weeks, in a tight final.

And the 2009 AO, because Verdasco and Federer were both playing sensational tennis both matches yet Nadal was able to resist the barrage both threw at him to outlast them.

Even if his level was higher at RG 08, these two victories stand out for their excellence.

 

[Phoenix1983]

2009 AO is his most impressive as a whole tournament for sure.

Yes, he was more dominant at the FO in 2008 and 2010, but on his non-favoured surface of hard courts, to pull out the back to back victories over Verdasco and Federer was sensational.

 

[MichaelNadal]

2009 AO is his most impressive as a whole tournament for sure.

Yes, he was more dominant at the FO in 2008 and 2010, but on his non-favoured surface of hard courts, to pull out the back to back victories over Verdasco and Federer was sensational.

With some of the sexiest tennis ever seen at that. Amazing points from Nadal.

 

[Deleted member 512391]

His AO run in 2012 is underrated.
He had a brutal QF against Berdych, very tough SF against Federer and almost beat Djokovic in that epic final.
Impressive performances overall.

 

[dudeski]

If Nadal defeats Ferrer, Murray, and Djokovic to win the French Open, do you think that would be his most impressive Grand Slam championship run?

Ferrer and Djokovic defeated him in clay court tune ups before the French Open and Murray pushed him to 7-5 in the third set.
Every player has appeared in a Grand Slam final in the last 12 months.
Every player has defeated Nadal at least twice in a Grand Slam.

Nope. Because his first 4 matches were all clowns. Ferrer is 32 and way past his prime and usually plays terrible vs Nadal at FO. Murray is injured and sucks on clay. So again Nadal would win beating only one great opponent. Weak era indeed.

 

[ACE of Hearts]

He should beat ferrer in straight sets if he brings out his best.Murray is not a claycourter.He should get to the final.

 

[West Coast Ace]

...and a red hot berdrych in the 2d week.

I'm sure you meant 'deer in headlights' Berdych. And Nadal only won 4, 5, and 4.

Back to the OP's question: Ferrer hasn't won a major; Murray's not a clay courter; Djokovic still can seize up in SFs and Fs.

 

[FedererWinsWimbledon2014]

Not particularly impressive at all. Ferrer has no weapons, Murray is poor on clay.

Federer aged 30 beating Nole and Murray to win Wimbledon is far more impressive.

 

[LazyNinja19]

If Nadal defeats Ferrer, Murray, and Djokovic to win the French Open, do you think that would be his most impressive Grand Slam championship run?

Ferrer and Djokovic defeated him in clay court tune ups before the French Open and Murray pushed him to 7-5 in the third set.
Every player has appeared in a Grand Slam final in the last 12 months.
Every player has defeated Nadal at least twice in a Grand Slam.

ok. Now what? Does it count as 2 Slam titles now? or maybe 3?

Please give us your expert & objective views.

 

[drm025]

ok. Now what? Does it count as 2 Slam titles now? or maybe 3?

Please give us your expert & objective views.

Haha, nice thread bump. I'm sure most will respond by saying that it wasn't that impressive because they all played poorly against Nadal. I, on the other hand, think that it was a super impressive run, especially because most people were predicting Nadal's run at the French to end.

 

[NatF]

His most impressive slam run is still 2009 AO.

 

[forehand fan]

I'm sure you meant 'deer in headlights' Berdych. And Nadal only won 4, 5, and 4.

Back to the OP's question: Ferrer hasn't won a major; Murray's not a clay courter; Djokovic still can seize up in SFs and Fs.

he had just beaten fed and djoker back to back.. and even without him there were murray soderling and 2 rosol like performances in the first week