If Nadal didn’t exist (scenario)

Fabresque

Hall of Fame
If Nadal didn’t exist, Fedovic would have more overall slams, sure. But they’d also have a bucket load of RG’s. I’m 100% willing and confident enough to say that Federer and Djokovic would be considered better clay court players than Bjorn Borg if Nadal didn’t exist.

2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011 RG would all belong to Roger Federer. Meanwhile...

2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2020 RG would be Novak Djokovic’s

Considering the gulf in era’s and the quality of opponents faced, I honestly believe these 2 would be considered stronger clay court players than Bjorn Borg.
 

BackhandDTL

Professional
If Nadal didn’t exist, Fedovic would have more overall slams, sure. But they’d also have a bucket load of RG’s. I’m 100% willing and confident enough to say that Federer and Djokovic would be considered better clay court players than Bjorn Borg if Nadal didn’t exist.

2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011 RG would all belong to Roger Federer. Meanwhile...

2012, 2013, 2014, 2016, 2020 RG would be Novak Djokovic’s

Considering the gulf in era’s and the quality of opponents faced, I honestly believe these 2 would be considered stronger clay court players than Bjorn Borg.
Well same could be said for Ned on grass/HC.

Useless post.
 

The Guru

Hall of Fame
Djoker wasn't anything special in 2007 and Fed played a pretty solid match in the final. 2008 a different story.
Djokovic was very competitive with Roger from 07-10 and the gap between them is much smaller on clay. The only match they played on clay other than a retirement went Djokovic's way. Even in 06 Djokovic took a set of Roger on clay. Not saying Roger's not the favorite but I don't think it's nearly as clear as the other ones listed. I think between 07-08 you'd expect Novak to win one honestly.
 

Third Serve

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic was very competitive with Roger from 07-10 and the gap between them is much smaller on clay. The only match they played on clay other than a retirement went Djokovic's way. Even in 06 Djokovic took a set of Roger on clay. Not saying Roger's not the favorite but I don't think it's nearly as clear as the other ones listed. I think between 07-08 you'd expect Novak to win one honestly.
Yeah, he'd win one. 2008. But I'm assessing this hypothetical based on how they performed at RG specifically. And Fed of 2007 gave an even tougher fight against an even better Nadal while 2007 Djokovic wasn't all that impressive.
 

Sabrina

Professional
Federer would have retired after winning something like 11 consecutive GS from RG 2005 to US 2007, same could be said for Novak around 2013-2014.
 

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Imagine there's no nadal,
It's easy if you try,
No clay below us,
Only low bouncing carpet,
Imagine all the players
Playing entertaining tennis...

Imagine there's no nadal
It isn't hard to do
No cheating to bear
And no faking too
Imagine all the players
Playing tennis in peace...

Imagine no topspin plague,
I wonder if you can,
No need for buttpick or phony uncle,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the players
Butchering the golden bull...

You may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And tennis will be saved.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru




Imagine there's no nadal,
It's easy if you try,
No clay below us,
Only low bouncing carpet,
Imagine all the players
Playing entertaining tennis...

Imagine there's no nadal
It isn't hard to do
No cheating to bear
And no faking too
Imagine all the players
Playing tennis in peace...

Imagine no topspin plague,
I wonder if you can,
No need for buttpick or phony uncle,
A brotherhood of man,
Imagine all the players
Butchering the golden bull...

You may say I'm a dreamer,
But I'm not the only one,
I hope some day you'll join us,
And tennis will be saved.
Was waiting for this one lol :D
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
Indian Wells CEO: 'lady' players should 'thank God' for Federer and Nadal

“If I was a lady player, I’d go down every night on my knees and thank God that Roger Federer and Rafa Nadal were born because they have carried this sport. They really have.”


Federer couldn't do it on his own so without Nadal there would have been no tennis.
 
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