If Nadal won the AO final would it have been his year?

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
I would almost always view a 2 slam season over a 1 slam season, but there can be exceptions. The same could be said when comparing a 1 slam season against a season with no slams.

My opinion is that we should increase the weight given to a slam win from 2000 to 3000 (while keeping F at 1200, SF at 720, etc) to more accurately reflect the value most people place on it.

In this scenario with Nadal having won the AO final and major winners getting 3000 points, Nadal would gain 2800 points on top of his 6835 which would give him 9,635. Djokovic would also gain 1000 points from his wimbledon win which would give him 12,360.

So, my answer to the original question is that I would still view Novak as the best player this year even if Nadal won 2 slams and Djokovic won only 1. I even still have Federer very slightly ahead of Nadal in that scenario (Federer finished with 9,775 points which is slightly higher than Nadal's theoretical 9,635).
 
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Deleted member 688153

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^^^ Don't forget Nole also won the WTF Firstservingman! :smile:

WTF is definitely important, but Djoker's Wimbledon win would be the key factor in my choosing his year if I did so.

I'd love to win the WTF though, as it would likely mean beating 2-3 of the Big 4 at least, and that would be awesome!
 

The_Order

G.O.A.T.
I would almost always view a 2 slam season over a 1 slam season, but there can be exceptions. The same could be said when comparing a 1 slam season against a season with no slams.

My opinion is that we should increase the weight given to a slam win from 2000 to 3000 (while keeping F at 1200, SF at 720, etc) to more accurately reflect the value most people place on it.

In this scenario with Nadal having won the AO final and major winners getting 3000 points, Nadal would gain 2800 points on top of his 6835 which would give him 9,635. Djokovic would also gain 1000 points from his wimbledon win which would give him 12,360.

So, my answer to the original question is that I would still view Novak as the best player this year even if Nadal won 2 slams and Djokovic won only 1. I even still have Federer very slightly ahead of Nadal in that scenario (Federer finished with 9,775 points which is slightly higher than Nadal's theoretical 9,635).

I'm assuming you mean by points only and not value of season?

Surely you couldn't still have Federer slightly higher with 0 majors to Rafa's 2. Novak I can understand a strong case being made for him having had the better season.
 

edmondsm

Legend
I'm assuming you mean by points only and not value of season?

Surely you couldn't still have Federer slightly higher with 0 majors to Rafa's 2. Novak I can understand a strong case being made for him having had the better season.

Well something has to be said about having a full, successful year. While winning two slams is great, surely nobody would spend half a season on the sidelines nursing health problems and look back to say, "that was a great year".

Nadal had a great 6 months, and then a bad 6 months. It's not like the universe requires that we give a thumbs up or down to a person's calender year.
 
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Deleted member 77403

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The reason I ask is, I wouldn't mind getting some insight into how much weight the slams actually have to one's season vs rankings.

I'm not taking into consideration that if he'd have won his confidence would've been higher, would've won more other tournaments etc. Nope, none of that, everything else happens the same way, just that he has an AO title instead of RU.

Personally, I think it would. He'd still be ranked YE#3 iinm, but having 2 majors out of 4, is more significant than rankings imo.

In my opinion, if Nadal wins the first two slams of the year, I would say this is his year. Shame he got injured midway, so we will never truly know if he could have wrestled back control of the match from a zoning Stan.
 

jhhachamp

Hall of Fame
I'm assuming you mean by points only and not value of season?

Surely you couldn't still have Federer slightly higher with 0 majors to Rafa's 2. Novak I can understand a strong case being made for him having had the better season.

You are correct that I would value Nadal's achievements more than Federer's. However, I would consider that Federer was the better player for the season. Do you understand the difference? It makes sense to me in my head, but I am not quite sure how to explain it.
 

Chico

Banned
Why is this preposterous notion still being debated here.

Nadal didn't win AO this year. Deal with it.
 
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