If Novak and Nadal dominate in 2020, one of them will reach 20

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They have won the last 7 GS, Novak 4, Nadal 3.
If they continue to dominate GS in 2020, at least one of them will reach 20. Possible scenarios:
Novak 20, Nadal 19
Novak 19, Nadal 20
Novak 18, Nadal 21
Novak 17, Nadal 22
Novak 16, Nadal 23

However, I think one of the younger guys will step up to win 1 GS. Novak 18 and Nadal 20 would be my guess.
 
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
Goes without saying for Nadal. Djokovic is too far behind.
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In what, being a BS artist? I would have said that 2 years ago when Djokovic was in a funk and totally at sea! Winning that Wimbledon in 2018 came out of nowhere! Following it up with the USO and '19 AO, it put him back in reach to overtake Fedal sooner or later! It was just plain "gravy" that gift given by Fed at Wimbledon this year blowing 2 MP on serve yet again and dropping 3 TB's! Winning 4 of the last 6 majors has kept him in sight and quite capable of making that record his! :sneaky:
 
I can't imagine a scenario where Djokovic wins all four slams. I do think Rafa will pick up one at Roland Garros, obviously.
 
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uscwang said:
They have won the last 7 GS, Novak 4, Nadal 3.
If they continue to dominate GS in 2020, at least one of them will reach 20. Possible scenarios:
Novak 20, Nadal 19
Novak 19, Nadal 20
Novak 18, Nadal 21
Novak 17, Nadal 22
Novak 16, Nadal 23

However, I think one of the younger guys will step up to win 1 GS. Novak 18 and Nadal 20 would be my guess.
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Its advantage Nadal now as nobody has the aura at any event that he does at FO. I think there is alot less pressure on Nadal at AO next year than there is for Djokovic.
 
uscwang said:
They have won the last 7 GS, Novak 4, Nadal 3.
If they continue to dominate GS in 2020, at least one of them will reach 20. Possible scenarios:
Novak 20, Nadal 19
Novak 19, Nadal 20
Novak 18, Nadal 21
Novak 17, Nadal 22
Novak 16, Nadal 23

However, I think one of the younger guys will step up to win 1 GS. Novak 18 and Nadal 20 would be my guess.
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They won't cause Tsisipas and Thiem will rise to the top and destroy both novak and rafa
 
uscwang said:
They have won the last 7 GS, Novak 4, Nadal 3.
If they continue to dominate GS in 2020, at least one of them will reach 20. Possible scenarios:
Novak 20, Nadal 19
Novak 19, Nadal 20
Novak 18, Nadal 21
Novak 17, Nadal 22
Novak 16, Nadal 23

However, I think one of the younger guys will step up to win 1 GS. Novak 18 and Nadal 20 would be my guess.
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The best scenario.
 
Well, the real target is 23 majors.

Doing a +1 still means the goal post is Federer and not setting a "milestone" of their own.
 
Unless Med Bear continues his run, find it hard to believe he will continue this run by winning a slam. Maybe USO.

I see AO is a lock for Djoker, FO is a lock for Rafa, WC is a lock for Djoker (unless Fed has one last run), and USO is open for about 3 guys.

So if it plays out like this:

Djoker: 18-19 slams
Rafa: 20-21 slams

So easily Rafa.
 
It’s mathematically impossible for Nadal to dominate the year if Djokovic reaches number 20 next year.
 
Novak has to be the favourite at AO and WI; he’ll be among the favs at USO and have an outside chance at RG

Rafa is obviously the heavy favourite at RG, and you can argue might be the favourite at the USO given everyone’s form; he’ll be among the favs at AO while having an outside shot at Wimbledon
 
James P said:
Really doubt any of the Big 3 reaches 23 majors. I think the ceiling for Djokodal is 22. Roger is done at 20. IMO, of course.
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If Djoker hits 22... then something went wrong. But if he does, and Rafa snags 2 more... can you imagine how embarrassing this would be for the tour?
 
tennisaddict said:
It does not work that way. Fed did not stop at 15. He steered well and clear of Pete.
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It does work that way. Once you reach a higher level you are the new top dog. When PETE won 13 people were calling him the GOAT. He just got one more swan song. The same thing with Ol' Rog. Once he got 15 he was called the GOAT. He just made sure the next guy to reach the summit had a longer climb. Should he get passed even by one they will be the new GOAT. Anyway, I highly doubt RAFA is going to stop at 21.
 
The Blond Blur said:
It does work that way. Once you reach a higher level you are the new top dog. When PETE won 13 people were calling him the GOAT. He just got one more swan song. The same thing with Ol' Rog. Once he got 15 he was called the GOAT. He just made sure the next guy to reach the summit had a longer climb. Should he get passed even by one they will be the new GOAT. Anyway, I highly doubt RAFA is going to stop at 21.
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You can argue till the cows come home.

Fed set a new benchmark, new milestone, new summit , totally far and away from anything Pete achieved.

We will have to wait and see if anyone in future can do that.
 
tennisaddict said:
You can argue till the cows come home.

Fed set a new benchmark, new milestone, new summit , totally far and away from anything Pete achieved.

We will have to wait and see if anyone in future can do that.
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I could say the same for you. Ol' Rog set a new benchmark with 15. You've been here since 2009, and I'm willing to bet a whole lot of money you were calling him the GOAT has soon as he beat Roddick at SW19.

People don't care by how much you beat the record. All they care about is who has the record. No one has won 21, so 21 itself is the new benchmark, new milestone, new summit. If Ol' Rog gets passed, the only thing he'll have done is delay the inevitable.
 
tennisaddict said:
You can argue till the cows come home.

Fed set a new benchmark, new milestone, new summit , totally far and away from anything Pete achieved.

We will have to wait and see if anyone in future can do that.
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You forget that Federer is still active and top-3, and kept playing to prevent Nadal and Djokovic from reaching him. It's not like Federer played in a different era and retired before Nadal and Djokovic started chasing him.
 
Lew II said:
You forget that Federer is still active and top-3, and kept playing to prevent Nadal and Djokovic from reaching him. It's not like Federer played in a different era and retired before Nadal and Djokovic started chasing him.
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Fed is 6 years older to Djokovic . Federer transcends eras . End of story
 
Lew II said:
Borg retired when no one was chasing him.
Sampras retired when no one was chasing him.
Federer is still active and having match points on his serve to win Slams while two rivals are chasing him.
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Good point. Laver, Borg, and Sampras are the Big 3 who retired while holding the GS record, only to be broken years later.
Federer, however, likely will end up holding the record temporarily during his career. The next following Sampras to retire with a new record will likely be Nadal.
 
uscwang said:
They have won the last 7 GS, Novak 4, Nadal 3.
If they continue to dominate GS in 2020, at least one of them will reach 20. Possible scenarios:
Novak 20, Nadal 19
Novak 19, Nadal 20
Novak 18, Nadal 21
Novak 17, Nadal 22
Novak 16, Nadal 23

However, I think one of the younger guys will step up to win 1 GS. Novak 18 and Nadal 20 would be my guess.
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Its easy to see Nole defending his two slams from 2019, but have a feeling that is best hope. Would be a wonderful and major surprise if Nadal is held slam less in 2020, so he's most likely to be at 20. Of course Fed could easily get to 21 or even 22 with the right draws and the wrong draws for his rivals.
Example for Auz Open:
2020 Year end #1 Mad Lad in same half with Djoko
Fed in same half with Rafa on the fast Australian courts.

Federe could easily come through this and beat Rafa and Mad Lad in the final. :whistle:

50/50 chance of this prospective draw.;)
 
Rafa will reach 20 in his sleep, only needs Roland Garros next year.
Very good chance at 21 next year too, but 20 is almost a certainty :)
Djokovic has no hope.
Djokovic is more likely to retire next year than win 20 next year....
 
Meles said:
Its easy to see Nole defending his two slams from 2019, but have a feeling that is best hope. Would be a wonderful and major surprise if Nadal is held slam less in 2020, so he's most likely to be at 20. Of course Fed could easily get to 21 or even 22 with the right draws and the wrong draws for his rivals.
Example for Auz Open:
2020 Year end #1 Mad Lad in same half with Djoko
Fed in same half with Rafa on the fast Australian courts.

Federe could easily come through this and beat Rafa and Mad Lad in the final. :whistle:

50/50 chance of this prospective draw.;)
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That is a very verbose way of burying the majestic lede, for which the translation is, "It would be wonderful if Nadal were never to get close to another Slam title ever again."
 
Raphael Nadal said:
Rafa will reach 20 in his sleep, only needs Roland Garros next year.
Very good chance at 21 next year too, but 20 is almost a certainty :)
Djokovic has no hope.
Djokovic is more likely to retire next year than win 20 next year....
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Neither is happening! I'll be perfectly satisfied with at least one major after all the troubles he's had when winning too much! Expectations grow and with little support from the masses, it has to be even more of a mental strain on the world's #1! :unsure:
 
uscwang said:
They have won the last 7 GS, Novak 4, Nadal 3.
If they continue to dominate GS in 2020, at least one of them will reach 20. Possible scenarios:
Novak 20, Nadal 19
Novak 19, Nadal 20
Novak 18, Nadal 21
Novak 17, Nadal 22
Novak 16, Nadal 23

However, I think one of the younger guys will step up to win 1 GS. Novak 18 and Nadal 20 would be my guess.
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I think it will be:

Novak 19 Nadal 19 Medvedev 1

I really feel that Medvedev will win AT LEAST one slam in 2020 and 2 or more in 2021. He is THAT good.
Not been MORE excited about a young player for a LONG LONG Time.

Right now, the biggest thing standing between Novak and GOAThood is NOT Fed or Nadal. It is Medvedev.
 
TennisFan3 said:
I think it will be:

Novak 19 Nadal 19 Medvedev 1

I really feel that Medvedev will win AT LEAST one slam in 2020 and 2 or more in 2021. He is THAT good.
Not been MORE excited about a young player for a LONG LONG Time.

Right now, the biggest thing standing between Novak and GOAThood is NOT Fed or Nadal. It is Medvedev.
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He is good.
But players are starting to study his game and he is starting to carry expectation as a high seed. Let's see if he can remain at this summer's level.
 
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