If Novak wins FO, is he top 3 all-time on clay?

[Antonio Puente]

Spin is everything at TTW. Murray wins a bunch of Masters, but loses 8 slam finals. He's a choker. Djoker does the same thing on clay - wins Masters, chokes in slams - yet is somehow spun into a clay elite.

 

[Djokovic2011]

It's good that this absolutely ridiculous thread didn't age well. Djokovic with 1 RG title shouldn't be even in the discussion for being an ATG on clay, leave alone top-3.

Your argument might hold a little more weight if he hadn't also won 10 clay Masters and reached 5 RG finals. Djokovic is definitely an ATG on clay.

 

[King No1e]

LOL not even close. Nadal, Rosewall, and Borg are the GOATs of clay. Neither Fed nor Djokovic have a prayer of surpassing them.

 

[StrongRule]

Your argument might hold a little more weight if he hadn't also won 10 clay Masters and reached 5 RG finals. Djokovic is definitely an ATG on clay.

An ATG on clay with 1 RG title? I don't care about the number of finals. Same excuse as being used for Murray. (who is clearly not an ATG in general)

 

[Djokovic2011]

An ATG on clay with 1 RG title? I don't care about the number of finals. Same excuse as being used for Murray. (who is clearly not an ATG in general)

You don't care about the 10 Masters?!

 

[Incognito]

Borg basically Ferrer...Great grinder but not enough weapons to trouble Big3

except Borg had better backhand, forehand, serve, volleys and could run for hours. Ferrer the smoker is not in the same league.

 

[Nadalgaenger]

except Borg had better backhand, forehand, serve, volleys and could run for hours. Ferrer the smoker is not in the same league.

Ferrer would do 7-mile run on treadmill AFTER match.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

Can you dominate a tournament if your dominance is overshadowed by the dominance of another player?