If season 2020 gets cancelled and the rankings aren't freezed, who will be #1?
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Im(moral) Winner
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Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
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Djokovic wouldn't lose the #1 ranking for the whole year.
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Street
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If there is no play for the rest of this season i think Djokovic wouldn't lose no.1 for the rest of this season. Both he and Nadal defend basically nothing in Miami, during the clay masters season they would lose a very similiar amount of points(Nadal probably more, i guess). Then you have RG and W where they lose the same amount of points with a win and a semifinal placement. Then you have toronto where Nadal loses 1000 points and Djokovic nothing, Cincinnati only 360 points for Djokovic. Then the US open where nadal loses 2000 points and djokovic basically nothing etc.
helterskelter
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Djokovic is ahead in the race, so he would be #1 at end of 2020.
Cortana
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Well no? Maybe he loses at some point important tournament points where Nadal didn't get much. It's clear that he would end this year as number 1, but he might lose the ranking within the year. Like Raonic who dropped massively after the IW cancellation.
Standaa
G.O.A.T.
what? if the season gets cancelled from here on, then everyone loses all the points from the rest of the season and the only points left will be the ones they stacked up at the beggining of this season, no?
daggerman
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This is correct. Every year, the year-end rankings are determined only by tournament results within that year. If the rest of the season is cancelled, the final standings are identical to the current race to London standings.
vex
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Welp, think it thru, who won the Australian Open? There’s your YE#1
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
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Yes but it was assumed the points would be dropping tournament by tournament, not all at once. The final standing is obvious as we only have to look at the 2020 race, but OP was wondering if someone would overtake Djokovic just for a few weeks during the gradual losing of points.
But that wouldn't happen either. And I don't think we will have a longer break anyway...
Good question.
RaulRamirez
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Without looking at and calculating each week, that sounds logical. And yes, I hope - both for the sake of watching tennis and for humanity's same - that tennis will resume.
Hitman
Bionic Poster
Djokovic will not lose the number one ranking for the rest of the season. In fact, if they stop play now, he ends the year ending number one, because the race points will become the ranking points.
Djokovic_is_the_best#1
Bionic Poster
Djokovic will have the weeks at no1 record and year end no1 record. Novak is ahead in the race so would stay no1 the whole year.
RaulRamirez
Legend
The year-end is obvious, as I often check the "Race to London" standings and clearly, his undefeated start including the Aussie puts him in good shape there . I think the OP was wondering if at any point during the year, the placements could reverse due to points dropping off - though that didn't seem likely.
ttwreader
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| Nadal | Djokovic | |||||||||
| Date | Tournament | Drop date | Round | Point | Point left | Rank | Round | Point | Point left | Rank |
| Current | Covid-19 | 9850 | 9850 | 2 | 10220 | 10220 | 1 | |||
| 2019.03.04 | ATP Masters 1000 Indian Wells | 2020.03.23 | SF | 360 | 9490 | 2 | R32 | 45 | 10175 | 1 |
| 2019.03.18 | ATP Masters 1000 Miami | 2020.04.06 | - | 0 | 9490 | 2 | R16 | 90 | 10085 | 1 |
| 2019.04.15 | ATP Masters 1000 Monte Carlo | 2020.04.20 | SF | 360 | 9130 | 2 | QF | 180 | 9905 | 1 |
| 2019.04.22 | Barcelona | 2020.04.27 | SF | 180 | 8950 | 2 | - | 0 | 9905 | 1 |
| 2019.05.06 | ATP Masters 1000 Madrid | 2020.05.11 | SF | 360 | 8590 | 2 | W | 1000 | 8905 | 1 |
| 2019.05.13 | ATP Masters 1000 Rome | 2020.05.18 | W | 1,000 | 7590 | 2 | F | 600 | 8,305 | 1 |
| 2019.05.27 | Roland Garros | 2020.06.08 | W | 2,000 | 5590 | 2 | SF | 720 | 7,585 | 1 |
| 2019.07.01 | Wimbledon | 2020.07.13 | SF | 720 | 4870 | 2 | W | 2000 | 5585 | 1 |
| 2019.08.05 | ATP Masters 1000 Canada | 2020.08.10 | W | 1,000 | 3870 | 2 | - | 0 | 5,585 | 1 |
| 2019.08.12 | ATP Masters 1000 Cincinnati | 2020.08.17 | - | 0 | 3870 | 2 | SF | 360 | 5225 | 1 |
| 2019.08.26 | US Open | 2020.09.07 | W | 2,000 | 1870 | 2 | R16 | 180 | 5,045 | 1 |
| 2019.09.30 | Tokyo | 2020.10.05 | 0 | 1870 | 2 | W | 500 | 4,545 | 1 | |
| 2019.10.07 | ATP Masters 1000 Shanghai | 2020.10.12 | - | 0 | 1870 | 2 | QF | 180 | 4365 | 1 |
| 2019.10.28 | ATP Masters 1000 Paris | 2020.11.02 | SF | 360 | 1510 | 2 | W | 1000 | 3365 | 1 |
| 2019.11.11 | Nitto ATP Finals | 2020.11.02 | RR | 400 | 1110 | 2 | RR | 200 | 3165 | 1 |
Standaa
G.O.A.T.
ah okay. thanks I’m a bit slow today.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Kenin #1, Thiem #1!
jm1980
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So basically the closest Nadal would ever get to Djokovic is after Madrid (315 points)
Of course Nadal wouldn't end up at #2; he would lose that spot to Thiem after his USO points drop, and then he would also lose the #3 spot to Monfils at the end of the season.
PS: Current tournament listed as Covid-19 is a nice touch
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jm1980
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tennis24x7
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the ATP is just going to carry over the points from this year to next if there is no play rest of the season.
vex
Legend
Sauce? or your bootie?
BeatlesFan
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titoelcolombiano
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Corona Virus has 1000 points after winning Indian Wells so that is a contender for YE # 1 in addition to Nadal & Djokovic
Tennisfan339
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Hopefully, they'll start playing behind closed doors. They do it for football and ski, why not for tennis.
Players are mature enough to adap and play in an empty stadium.
Divide the prize money by 2 or 3 for the players.
Open a prize pool for each tournament, and people donate.
Sure, the ATP will lost a few $ but the players and the viewers shouldn't have to pay the hard prize because of this stupid virus.
Players are mature enough to adap and play in an empty stadium.
Divide the prize money by 2 or 3 for the players.
Open a prize pool for each tournament, and people donate.
Sure, the ATP will lost a few $ but the players and the viewers shouldn't have to pay the hard prize because of this stupid virus.
Well it is obvious that Djokovic would be year end number one as he has accumulated the most points in 2020, and him and Rafa were on about the same
tennisaddict
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Let them move tennis to part of the world not infected with Corona
Cancel Miami . Do the right thing .
Cancel Miami . Do the right thing .
Cortana
Legend
I don't know where but it's very possible if the first 2 are close. Let's assume Nadal was nr1 today and RG gets cancelled. Djokovic gets 1200 points closer without playing tennis.
donquijote
G.O.A.T.
Some challenger tournaments champion can become No1. Sureshz comes to mind.
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
don’t even want to think about it.
Desertman
Hall of Fame
Do you really think anyone would be concerned about rankings or end of year no.1? It’s silly to think these even matter.
Likely they’d just freeze the rankings. Come back at the position you were in when the season was frozen.
But at a time like this, I’m sure nobody is concerned about this.
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Likely they’d just freeze the rankings. Come back at the position you were in when the season was frozen.
But at a time like this, I’m sure nobody is concerned about this.
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The ATP is only having a 6 week break, and that means the next 2 weeks of March, and all of April 
Madrid is May 3rd, and Spain have already announced all their tournaments will be played-
"The Royal Spanish Tennis Federation (RFET) asks the clubs and organizers, that all tennis tournaments planned in the next dates be played without a public until further notice, with the aim of prioritizing health and safety of all participants."
And France have already announced the French Open will be played-
French Tennis Federation (FFT) director general Jean-Francois Vilotte commented, "We are on a 13-hectare site which allows the flow of spectators to be organised very differently from football stadiums." Organizers said that some of the measures being considered include distribution of "gel and mask kits" and "cancellation of tickets for holders from affected areas" in order to "minimize the risk of contagion".
Madrid is May 3rd, and Spain have already announced all their tournaments will be played-
"The Royal Spanish Tennis Federation (RFET) asks the clubs and organizers, that all tennis tournaments planned in the next dates be played without a public until further notice, with the aim of prioritizing health and safety of all participants."
And France have already announced the French Open will be played-
French Tennis Federation (FFT) director general Jean-Francois Vilotte commented, "We are on a 13-hectare site which allows the flow of spectators to be organised very differently from football stadiums." Organizers said that some of the measures being considered include distribution of "gel and mask kits" and "cancellation of tickets for holders from affected areas" in order to "minimize the risk of contagion".
Desertman
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They won't be played. Really, they won't be. Nobody is going to say now "Oh, we're shutting down for six months" as that would create more chaos than there is already, but that's exactly what'll happen. The 6 week break will become a 12 week break which will, in turn, become a six month break. I'd be surprised if anything is played this side of the US Open.The ATP is only having a 6 week break, and that means the next 2 weeks of March, and all of April
Madrid is May 3rd, and Spain have already announced all their tournaments will be played-
"The Royal Spanish Tennis Federation (RFET) asks the clubs and organizers, that all tennis tournaments planned in the next dates be played without a public until further notice, with the aim of prioritizing health and safety of all participants."
And France have already announced the French Open will be played-
French Tennis Federation (FFT) director general Jean-Francois Vilotte commented, "We are on a 13-hectare site which allows the flow of spectators to be organised very differently from football stadiums." Organizers said that some of the measures being considered include distribution of "gel and mask kits" and "cancellation of tickets for holders from affected areas" in order to "minimize the risk of contagion".
If 5 players in the Top 10 die in a bizarre gardening accident, who will assume their spots in the Top 10 and how will it affect the ATP Tour Championship?
Third Serve
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Answer should be pretty obvious.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
They would not award any Year End #1 trophy this year. It would be unfair.
helterskelter
G.O.A.T.
I agree that they should not and would not, but I was answering the original post's question. The answer is inapplicable because they would in fact freeze the rankings, but if they did not, that is the answer.
Sport
G.O.A.T.
My point is that, in the hypothetical scenario that no more ATP tennis matches are played in 2020, there won't be any Year End #1 award. They are not freezening the rankings. Djokovic will surpass Federer's weeks as #1 record but will not achieve his 6th YE#1 in this hypothetical situation. Even if they were to freeze the rankings, the YE#1 award would not be given to anybody, as 85% of the season has not been disputed.
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How would Djokovic surpass the slam record? He would end 2020 on 17 slams, aged 33-34 attempting to win 4 more slams.
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