If The Human Wrecking Machine wins the Madrid final...

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He will break Djokovic's record for best start to masters series events titles, winning the first 4.

He will also break Nadal and Djokovic's record of winning four consecutive masters titles, he will in fact have won 5.

He will break the tie with Federer, Nadal, and Agassi and become only the second player to win 8 out of 9 masters titles

He will be on course to equal Djokovic in Rome by completely the set of masters series titles. He is on course to be the youngest to do it.

He will be on course to equal Nadal by winning all three clay masters title in a season in Rome
 
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Hitman said:
He will break Djokovic's record for best start to masters series events titles, winning the first 4.

He will also break Nadal and Djokovic's record of winning four consecutive masters titles, he will in fact have won 5.

He will break the tie with Federer, Nadal, and Agassi and become only the second player to win 8 out of 9 masters titles

He will be on course to equal Djokovic in Rome by completely the set of masters series titles. He is on course to be the youngest to do it.

He will be on course to equal Nadal by winning all three clay masters title in a season in Rome
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Sinner is currently the youngest person to make the finals of all 14 major tournaments.
 
Sinner’s gonna put up some stupid numbers across his career. I think even peak Federer and Djokovic were not so efficient in dispatching lower-ranked players (and for Sinner “lower-ranked” is basically anyone not named Alcaraz and occasionally Djokovic lol).

At the moment it’s hard to see anyone beating him all clay season.
 
tudwell said:
Sinner’s gonna put up some stupid numbers across his career. I think even peak Federer and Djokovic were not so efficient in dispatching lower-ranked players (and for Sinner “lower-ranked” is basically anyone not named Alcaraz and occasionally Djokovic lol).

At the moment it’s hard to see anyone beating him all clay season.
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He's on track to do Nadal's 2010 season...
 
It seems he decided to sacrifice RG for the sake of making history, which is quite legitimate because this opportunity rarely arises for someone during their career.
 
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Hitman said:
He will break Djokovic's record for best start to masters series events titles, winning the first 4.

He will also break Nadal and Djokovic's record of winning four consecutive masters titles, he will in fact have won 5.

He will break the tie with Federer, Nadal, and Agassi and become only the second player to win 8 out of 9 masters titles

He will be on course to equal Djokovic in Rome by completely the set of masters series titles. He is on course to be the youngest to do it.

He will be on course to equal Nadal by winning all three clay masters title in a season in Rome
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Is it confirmed that Sinner will also play in Rome?
:D
 
tudwell said:
Sinner’s gonna put up some stupid numbers across his career. I think even peak Federer and Djokovic were not so efficient in dispatching lower-ranked players (and for Sinner “lower-ranked” is basically anyone not named Alcaraz and occasionally Djokovic lol).

At the moment it’s hard to see anyone beating him all clay season.
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Do you consider him a tennis legend IF he wins Madrid, Rome and Roland Garros? this year
 
Hitman said:
What a freak of nature.
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All respect to Alcaraz and his precocity, but I don’t see him breaking it - he would need to make the Paris final at worst this year, and truly, I don’t see him making it. This record will stand for decades.
 
Here are some mind-blowing stats for Sinner’s 27-match winning streak at Masters events, which goes back to the 2025 Paris Masters:

54-2 in sets played. Both sets that he lost were tiebreakers. Insane!

1.70 DR. That is absolutely sick.

95.4% service hold%. This is despite playing 10 matches on clay. That is insane.

He’s averaging 7.36 breaks of serve for every time that he is broken. A 4/1 ratio is considered ATG. His 7/1 ratio is off the charts.

13% ace percentage. That is getting up there.

To give you an idea how dominant these stats are, let’s look at Nadal in 2010 on CLAY only.

15-0 record for the sweep!

30-2 in sets played. The two sets he lost were 6-3 and 6-4.

1.51 DR

92.8% service hold %

Averaged 6.0 breaks of serve to service games broken. 6.0 is an astronomical number. But Sinner so far is more than 20% greater than that across 2 different surfaces and across nearly double the amount of matches.

I’m not saying that Sinner is anywhere close to Nadal on clay. Nobody on any surface is. All I’m saying here is that his run at these Masters events is arguably the most dominant run of all time.
 
Are people actually surprised by Sinner starting to blow away the so called Peak Fed domination in 2004-07? Imagine if Raz was born 3 years later like the Fedal situation? :unsure:

Sinner–Murray–Fed comparison at age 20–22

Let’s see how you argue that the 2001–03 of Safin, Rafter, Hewitt, and Roddick was far superior to the 2021–23 of Zverev, Med, Tsitsipas, and Raz. Why Raz? I said Safin, Rafter, Hewitt, Roddick > Zed, Med, Tsitsipas, Shapo. This is obvious as Hewitt > Med, Roddick > Zverev, Safin > Tsitsipas...
tt.tennis-warehouse.com tt.tennis-warehouse.com
 
The main thing stopping him from the clay sweep is is physical fitness. Don't get me wrong, he has clearly proven to be very fit. But playing 4 grueling tournaments nearly back-to-back against high-level players (not to mention a BO5 slam to top it off) on clay would be enough to injure most players, especially considering he will certainly go deep in each one. I hope he can keep his matches short and serve bot as much as possible to preserve his body. As much of a Raz fan I am, I ultimately have to root for history
 
Before this event even started, @Hitman said that Sinner might win the first 5 Masters events this year. I strongly disagreed at that time, thinking that it was not possible to enter 5 straight Masters and then winning all of them to start a year. Look, I get it if the 5 straight are stretched across 2 years where there’s a nice break in the middle to recharge the batteries. But to start a season with 5 straight seems impossible.

But now, I see that it’s a possibility. Even if Sinner falls short, the OP’s statement was a valid one. And I stand corrected. I will own that I was wrong to think that it wasn’t possible. Sinner is getting close to pulling it off. And the way that he’s been dominating lately makes it perhaps more likely than not at happening. I’m not so sure that the field will prevent Sinner from sweeping the first 5 Masters of the year.

We are witnessing a historic run right now.

That said, we desperately need Carlos back.

PS: if Sinner pulls it off, then @Hitman might become known as Nostradamus II.
 
tudwell said:
Sinner’s gonna put up some stupid numbers across his career. I think even peak Federer and Djokovic were not so efficient in dispatching lower-ranked players (and for Sinner “lower-ranked” is basically anyone not named Alcaraz and occasionally Djokovic lol).

At the moment it’s hard to see anyone beating him all clay season.
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Hats off to the dude, man. When an athlete excels and raises the bar, which Jannik is doing, it is something to acknowledge and celebrate. The confidence gained from continuing the momentum and knowing that he is unlikely to be troubled by the rest of the field must add to the impetus gained.
I anticipate that he will lift the Madrid trophy on Sunday. From the evidence since IW, it seems a mere formality for a final to be played- I hope Jannik will be challenged and it will be a good match, but neither Zverev or Blockx seem to have the required metal for winning the title. Foregone conclusions are best avoided, but the evidence for a Jannik win seems most compelling.
 
tudwell said:
He's already a legend in my mind, but if he pulls off the clay sweep on what was generally thought to be his worst surface - it'll be a feat to remember, for sure.
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I consider him a solid solid HOF atm. But by the end of this year, I think he’s a confirmed legend
 
Hitman said:
He will break Djokovic's record for best start to masters series events titles, winning the first 4.

He will also break Nadal and Djokovic's record of winning four consecutive masters titles, he will in fact have won 5.

He will break the tie with Federer, Nadal, and Agassi and become only the second player to win 8 out of 9 masters titles

He will be on course to equal Djokovic in Rome by completely the set of masters series titles. He is on course to be the youngest to do it.

He will be on course to equal Nadal by winning all three clay masters title in a season in Rome
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If not for the AO semifinal Sinner might have been going for his 7th title in the last 7 big tournaments held.

Djokovic singlehandedly preserved his record of 7 consecutive big tournaments won:

Us Open 2015
Shanghai 2015
Bercy 2015
ATP Finals 2015
Australian Open 2016
Indian Wells 2016
Miami 2016
 
junkieballer said:
If not for AO semifinal Sinner might have been going for his 7th title in the last 7 big tournaments.

Djokovic singlehandedly preserved his record of 7 consecutive big tournaments won:

Us Open 2015
Shanghai 2015
Bercy 2015
YEC 2015
Australian Open 2016
Indian Wells 2016
Miami 2016
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The task was so epic, he couldn't rely on anyone else to do it for him.
 
dking68 said:
Will he beat the **** out of Novak?
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Djokovic just woke a monster. Not only in Sinner, but in future ATG's too. Now young players know that a late 30s or early 40s GOAT material can defeat a peak ATG/GOAT material in a slam. I think Sinner and Alcaraz will win slams even at 37-38.
 
SneederFeeder said:
Normally he wouldn't but if he sweeps the first 5, he is not gonna let go of the chance at winning all 9 in a season like that
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I disagree. I think that Sinner might change his mind about skipping Canada if it were the last Masters of the year. But with Cincinnati, Shanghai, and Paris to follow, playing Canada wouldn't set any additional record. It would just preserve the chance to set another record. I don't think that would be enough to justify altering his schedule. The planned USO prep sequence is more important.

Consider that if Sinner wins both Madrid and Rome, he'll already own or share these records without worrying about Canada:
  1. Most total consecutive Masters titles.
  2. Most consecutive Masters titles to start a season.
  3. All Masters titles won in career.
  4. Youngest to win all Masters titles in career.
And he'd still have a chance to set the record for most total Masters titles in a season, if he cares about that. All nine in a season really isn't necessary on top of everything else.
 
Suppose that instead of hurting him, playing this full schedule of clay tournaments including Madrid and Rome may result in him attaining a very high clay court level. He’s winning a lot on this surface now and may end up playing himself into incredible form by the French Open. Instead of getting “burned out” he may increase his stamina as well as clay court prowess. He’ll have enough time between Rome and the French Open to get enough rest imo.
 
Borg Number One said:
Suppose that instead of hurting him, playing this full schedule of clay tournaments including Madrid and Rome may result in him attaining a very high clay court level. He’s winning a lot on this surface now and may end up playing himself into incredible form by the French Open. Instead of getting “burned out” he may increase his stamina as well as clay court prowess. He’ll have enough time between Rome and the French Open to get enough rest imo.
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It's not like he's having wars every match either lol he'll be fine.
 
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