If the Nadal had picked soccer instead of tennis...

What would be Nadal level as a soccer player?


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#56
A level player (like Sergio Ramos or Gerad Pique) .

Messi/Ronaldo level is too much without any actual proof. That's GOAT level footballers.

But A level seems reasonable for his athletic gifts. His Uncle Miguel was an A-level defender (you have to be to play for Barcelona for 9 years as he did). No reason to think Rafa couldn't at least be at the same level as his Uncle, which is an elite professional.
 
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#58
Tennis more than football IMO is the ultimate test of athleticism and hand eye coordination.

I’m sure most of the top ten besides the lanky giants would be playing in top club teams in Europe if they had dedicated their lives to football.
Lmao.

While there's a ****tonne more football players than tennis players, hand eye coordination is not foot-eye coordination. The skill sets aren't as similar as you make them out to be. Many would go pro cause there's just that many more football players, but you can't blindly pretend they'd play the big leagues.

Actually the lanky giants would only have to get good at headers and protecting the ball so they'd have the easiest time adapting to football if they just became pinch hitters.
 
#60
A league player (like Sergio Ramos or Gerad Pique) .

Messi/Ronaldo level is too much without any actual proof. That's GOAT level footballers.

But A league seems reasonable for his athletic gifts. His Uncle Miguel was an A-level defender (you have to be to play for Barcelona for 9 years as he did). No reason to think Rafa couldn't at least be at the same level as his Uncle, which is an elite professional.
So Barcelona is just a 'league' player now?

'no reason to assume he'd be this level'. How about, aside from running fast, tennis has a veyr different skill set and there is no reason to assume Nadal would be elite at this.
 
#62
Diego Schwartzman was recently asked a question about footballers and the ATP tour,.



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Novak Djokovic would be very good at soccer too, and is a left footer, despite being right handed.
Nadal no doubt would have played soccer at a high level , probably even national team level like his uncle - Miguel Angel Nadal, nicknamed "the beast".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miguel_Ángel_Nadal

Diego Schwartzman himself could have tried his hand at soccer, as height is not so important.
 
#63
So Barcelona is just a 'league' player now?

'no reason to assume he'd be this level'. How about, aside from running fast, tennis has a veyr different skill set and there is no reason to assume Nadal would be elite at this.
"League" was a typo. I meant Level, as in "A-level".

Like I said, he has an elite footballer Uncle as a role model, lots of people have said he was a talented footballer as a youngster, and he has a lot of athletic talent. It's an educated guess. No one knows for certain, but that's the choice I'd pick.
 
#67
We all know that Ned nurture a secret love for soccer.

So, what would have changed in the tennis world had the bull choosen to be a soccer player instead of being a tennist?
CYGS becomes "bare minimum" objective for GOAT status, in much the same way 15-20 GS is the benchmark now.

Possibly, 6-8 consecutive slams :eek::eek:

:rolleyes:

Nobody remembers Sampras was any good and poor old Laver buried under the debris.

 
#70
Seriously

We're discussing what level of football Nadal would play at without ever having seen him hit a football
Rafa was a promising footballer at the age of 12, his father made him choose between football and tennis.

Wikipedia: ¤¤ At age 12, [Rafa] Nadal won the Spanish and European tennis titles in his age group, while also playing football full-time. Nadal's father made him choose between football and tennis so that his school work would not deteriorate entirely. Nadal said: "I chose tennis. Football had to stop straight away."¤¤

USA Today: ¤¤ When he was a precocious 12-year-old on the Spanish island of Mallorca, Rafael Nadal had to make a decision that millions of kids around the world have made at some point: Which sport to focus on exclusively. In Nadal’s case, which was a little different than most kids’, as he was top-notch in both, it came down to soccer or tennis. And this was no flighty hypothetical of a tennis prodigy dabbling in another sport. Nadal was a “promising striker” as Christopher Clarey called him in a 2005 New York Times article and had soccer run deep in the family, with his uncle Miguel Angel Nadal starring in three World Cups and playing for Barcelona, among other clubs. His father said Rafa could have been a fine professional footballer.¤¤
 
#71
That's a good point but I think he would have been extremely motivated without the God of Clay standing on his way so maybe he would have overcome his tiredness. It must be pretty demoralizing to face Nadal just after an extremely tough match so I think he was already defeated before stepping onto the court.
It still won't be the case imo...
He was injured and went on to have a surgery..
 
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#75
Rafa was a promising footballer at the age of 12, his father made him choose between football and tennis.

Wikipedia: ¤¤ At age 12, [Rafa] Nadal won the Spanish and European tennis titles in his age group, while also playing football full-time. Nadal's father made him choose between football and tennis so that his school work would not deteriorate entirely. Nadal said: "I chose tennis. Football had to stop straight away."¤¤

USA Today: ¤¤ When he was a precocious 12-year-old on the Spanish island of Mallorca, Rafael Nadal had to make a decision that millions of kids around the world have made at some point: Which sport to focus on exclusively. In Nadal’s case, which was a little different than most kids’, as he was top-notch in both, it came down to soccer or tennis. And this was no flighty hypothetical of a tennis prodigy dabbling in another sport. Nadal was a “promising striker” as Christopher Clarey called him in a 2005 New York Times article and had soccer run deep in the family, with his uncle Miguel Angel Nadal starring in three World Cups and playing for Barcelona, among other clubs. His father said Rafa could have been a fine professional footballer.¤¤
Many kids train their asses off at football. Not all of them play in La Liga.
 
#76
Lmao.

While there's a ****tonne more football players than tennis players, hand eye coordination is not foot-eye coordination. The skill sets aren't as similar as you make them out to be. Many would go pro cause there's just that many more football players, but you can't blindly pretend they'd play the big leagues.

Actually the lanky giants would only have to get good at headers and protecting the ball so they'd have the easiest time adapting to football if they just became pinch hitters.
I don’t think it’s an outrageous postulation to to suggest that Nadal and possibly Federer would have made into the European premier leagues.
 
#77
I don’t think it’s an outrageous postulation to to suggest that Nadal and possibly Federer would have made into the European premier leagues.
Maybe they could have. But I think the amount of say 12 year olds who are actually favorites (>50% chance) to become mainstay's in to leagues is absolutely tiny, and actually the simple fact that these guys chose tennis, which has such worse prospects on average, leads me to believe they weren't one of those kids.

Or, as Roddick said it, "I'd rather he (his son) become a very average NBA player".

That being said. What were Murray's, Fed's and Djokovic' background in football again? Fed and Murray played in youth and Djoko didn't right?


I actually think Djoko might be a pretty natural goal keeper.
 
#79
Maybe they could have. But I think the amount of say 12 year olds who are actually favorites (>50% chance) to become mainstay's in to leagues is absolutely tiny, and actually the simple fact that these guys chose tennis, which has such worse prospects on average, leads me to believe they weren't one of those kids.

Or, as Roddick said it, "I'd rather he (his son) become a very average NBA player".

That being said. What were Murray's, Fed's and Djokovic' background in football again? Fed and Murray played in youth and Djoko didn't right?


I actually think Djoko might be a pretty natural goal keeper.
I suspect they all chose tennis because they enjoyed it more and also because their talent was seen as exceptional from 10-12 years old when these choices were made.
 
#80
Maybe they could have. But I think the amount of say 12 year olds who are actually favorites (>50% chance) to become mainstay's in to leagues is absolutely tiny, and actually the simple fact that these guys chose tennis, which has such worse prospects on average, leads me to believe they weren't one of those kids.

Or, as Roddick said it, "I'd rather he (his son) become a very average NBA player".

That being said. What were Murray's, Fed's and Djokovic' background in football again? Fed and Murray played in youth and Djoko didn't right?


I actually think Djoko might be a pretty natural goal keeper.
Djoker too small for GK these days? I think all 3 could have been good, but to say that their talents of tennis would correlate to football at the same elite level is low.

Some similar skills, and some very different ones. Like you said, the pool of talent much larger in football too.
 
#82
Djokovic's physique and non-tennis movement is so awkward and goofy he looks like he'd be the last player you'd pick for your football team. I suspect he'd surprise me, but I just can't imagine him being close to even a lower levels pro standard.

Tennis more than football IMO is the ultimate test of athleticism and hand eye coordination.
I'm pretty sure football has got bugger all to do with hand-eye coordination unless you're a goalkeeper 8-B As for athleticism... I think you're vastly underestimating the intensity of 90 minutes of modern football.

I suspect they all chose tennis because they enjoyed it more and also because their talent was seen as exceptional from 10-12 years old when these choices were made.
I know Murray chose tennis over football because he had a ranking telling him exactly how good he was at tennis compared to his peers, rather than being at the mercy of someone's opinion as you are with football.
 
#90
Okay definitely not a Messi/Ronaldo level player. That’s like saying NBA player Gordon Hayward (who had to choose between basketball and tennis) would’ve became a Federer/Nadal level player had he played tennis instead.

I do think he’d be an a-league level player though as he’s clearly a very gifted athlete regardless of what sport he’s playing. Doubt he’d become as decorated in football as he is in tennis though so he clearly made the right decision to pursue tennis.
 
#98
I've seen him display his footie skills several times and he's obviously very good, visibly better than Fed and Djokovic.

So judging by the football skills he still has, and the discipline and athletic talent he has proven in the sport of tennis, I'd say he would probably have what it takes to become a solid pro.

But I don't think (some) people understand quite the scope of football. Unlike tennis, there are skilled and talented players in just about every corner of the map, the talent pool is vastly bigger than tennis and the skills aren't the same. So there is no way to take it for granted that he'd make the Real or Barça starting lineup or anything like that. Those aren't run-of-the-mill pros but world stars.
 
#99
Considering his knee issues by birth.. or was that his achilles..or ankle..or may be toes, I guess? Whatever..anyway I say only amateur. You dont get easily taken in the team when you have injuries 200 days a year.
 
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