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They did a promo for Nike a few years back that Was pretty cool. Playing soccer on a tennis court.
4 for Fred? Which?4 RG titles for Federer, 5 for Djokovic and 2 for Thiem.
05,06,07,114 for Fred? Which?
Ah you mean 4 more, then i pretty much agree. Thought you meant 4 in total.05,06,07,11
Possibly 08 although its debatable between fed and djoker
Forgot 2009??05,06,07,11
Possibly 08 although its debatable between fed and djoker
Well if we are playing hypothetical here, I will take 2019 FO too.Forgot 2009??
Lmao.Tennis more than football IMO is the ultimate test of athleticism and hand eye coordination.
I’m sure most of the top ten besides the lanky giants would be playing in top club teams in Europe if they had dedicated their lives to football.
No,I meant 4 extra not 4 total.Forgot 2009??
A league player (like Sergio Ramos or Gerad Pique) .
Messi/Ronaldo level is too much without any actual proof. That's GOAT level footballers.
But A league seems reasonable for his athletic gifts. His Uncle Miguel was an A-level defender (you have to be to play for Barcelona for 9 years as he did). No reason to think Rafa couldn't at least be at the same level as his Uncle, which is an elite professional.
Diego Schwartzman was recently asked a question about footballers and the ATP tour,.
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So Barcelona is just a 'league' player now?
'no reason to assume he'd be this level'. How about, aside from running fast, tennis has a veyr different skill set and there is no reason to assume Nadal would be elite at this.
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We're discussing what level of football Nadal would play at without ever having seen him hit a football
CYGS becomes "bare minimum" objective for GOAT status, in much the same way 15-20 GS is the benchmark now.We all know that Ned nurture a secret love for soccer.
So, what would have changed in the tennis world had the bull choosen to be a soccer player instead of being a tennist?
Even I did..Well if we are playing hypothetical here, I will take 2019 FO too.
Oh okay fella...No,I meant 4 extra not 4 total.
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We're discussing what level of football Nadal would play at without ever having seen him hit a football
It still won't be the case imo...That's a good point but I think he would have been extremely motivated without the God of Clay standing on his way so maybe he would have overcome his tiredness. It must be pretty demoralizing to face Nadal just after an extremely tough match so I think he was already defeated before stepping onto the court.
You can imagine Federer as a pretty creative footballer, and if his foot skills were anything like his hand skills in tennis, he might have been quite impressive too.
Even I did..
Check bro..
We all know that Ned nurture a secret love for soccer.
So, what would have changed in the tennis world had the bull choosen to be a soccer player instead of being a tennist?
Many kids train their asses off at football. Not all of them play in La Liga.Rafa was a promising footballer at the age of 12, his father made him choose between football and tennis.
Wikipedia: ¤¤ At age 12, [Rafa] Nadal won the Spanish and European tennis titles in his age group, while also playing football full-time. Nadal's father made him choose between football and tennis so that his school work would not deteriorate entirely. Nadal said: "I chose tennis. Football had to stop straight away."¤¤
USA Today: ¤¤ When he was a precocious 12-year-old on the Spanish island of Mallorca, Rafael Nadal had to make a decision that millions of kids around the world have made at some point: Which sport to focus on exclusively. In Nadal’s case, which was a little different than most kids’, as he was top-notch in both, it came down to soccer or tennis. And this was no flighty hypothetical of a tennis prodigy dabbling in another sport. Nadal was a “promising striker” as Christopher Clarey called him in a 2005 New York Times article and had soccer run deep in the family, with his uncle Miguel Angel Nadal starring in three World Cups and playing for Barcelona, among other clubs. His father said Rafa could have been a fine professional footballer.¤¤
Lmao.
While there's a ****tonne more football players than tennis players, hand eye coordination is not foot-eye coordination. The skill sets aren't as similar as you make them out to be. Many would go pro cause there's just that many more football players, but you can't blindly pretend they'd play the big leagues.
Actually the lanky giants would only have to get good at headers and protecting the ball so they'd have the easiest time adapting to football if they just became pinch hitters.
Maybe they could have. But I think the amount of say 12 year olds who are actually favorites (>50% chance) to become mainstay's in to leagues is absolutely tiny, and actually the simple fact that these guys chose tennis, which has such worse prospects on average, leads me to believe they weren't one of those kids.I don’t think it’s an outrageous postulation to to suggest that Nadal and possibly Federer would have made into the European premier leagues.
Maybe they could have. But I think the amount of say 12 year olds who are actually favorites (>50% chance) to become mainstay's in to leagues is absolutely tiny, and actually the simple fact that these guys chose tennis, which has such worse prospects on average, leads me to believe they weren't one of those kids.
Or, as Roddick said it, "I'd rather he (his son) become a very average NBA player".
That being said. What were Murray's, Fed's and Djokovic' background in football again? Fed and Murray played in youth and Djoko didn't right?
I actually think Djoko might be a pretty natural goal keeper.
Maybe they could have. But I think the amount of say 12 year olds who are actually favorites (>50% chance) to become mainstay's in to leagues is absolutely tiny, and actually the simple fact that these guys chose tennis, which has such worse prospects on average, leads me to believe they weren't one of those kids.
Or, as Roddick said it, "I'd rather he (his son) become a very average NBA player".
That being said. What were Murray's, Fed's and Djokovic' background in football again? Fed and Murray played in youth and Djoko didn't right?
I actually think Djoko might be a pretty natural goal keeper.
Nah hes tall enoughDjoker too small for GK these days? I think all 3 could have been good, but to say that their talents of tennis would correlate to football at the same elite level is low.
Some similar skills, and some very different ones. Like you said, the pool of talent much larger in football too.
Tennis more than football IMO is the ultimate test of athleticism and hand eye coordination.
I suspect they all chose tennis because they enjoyed it more and also because their talent was seen as exceptional from 10-12 years old when these choices were made.
Ah you mean 4 more, then i pretty much agree. Thought you meant 4 in total.
Love that pic....It's no secret that Rafa loves football. He is an avid Real Madrid fan.
Love that pic....
Can you provide some of his childhood or teenage pics of the same??
He would have still benefited from the Fuentes help, and no doubt he would still have been one of the most despicable gamesmanship players (similar to S. Ramos in RM).
Omg his uncle was dashing. The looks run in the genes. Rafa looks so cute. His expression is a dead giveaway. Thanks for this pic!No. But I have seen childhood pictures of Rafa wearing a football kit.
Rafa with his uncle Miguel Angel Nadal:
Childal looks very cute...No. But I have seen childhood pictures of Rafa wearing a football kit.
Rafa with his uncle Miguel Angel Nadal:
RF would have at least 25 grand slam titles to his name if Nadal chose soccer.
His uncle is still very dashing. I'm too lazy to go digging through family pictures but Miguel Angel is definitely the best looking of the four Nadal brothers.Omg his uncle was dashing. The looks run in the genes. Rafa looks so cute. His expression is a dead giveaway. Thanks for this pic!
Lol I had no idea. Very cool. I always thought Toni was a very handsome man too.His uncle is still very dashing. I'm too lazy to go digging through family pictures but Miguel Angel is definitely the best looking of the four Nadal brothers.
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We're discussing what level of football Nadal would play at without ever having seen him hit a football