If they meet in the final, Nadal will have more pressure on him than Federer

JennyS

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I would say that in all 9 of their Grand Slam meetings, Federer has been under considerably more pressure than Nadal. Whether he was going for the Career Slam at the French Open, trying to tie and pass Borg at Wimbledon and trying to tie Sampras' all-time Slam record in Australia, Federer was always playing against Nadal AND history.

Now that Federer has the Career Slam AND the all-time Slam record, he won't be carrying that burden should he face Nadal. Nadal, on the other hand, will be going for the Career Slam, which is amazing pressure. I'd say that's less pressure than Federer going for 6 straight US Opens. Plus he said he can play with peace for the rest of his career now.

So should they both get there, I think that we might see a more relaxed Federer and a more nervous Nadal than in previous matches. Not that would guarantee a Federer win though.

Delpo and Djoker might have something to say about that though! Maybe neither of them will make it ala the 08 Aussie Open!
 
Federer will be under pressure from the *******s, for sure. So I'd say he'll be under more pressure. I honestly think that for some bizarre reason, people would think of Federer as a better player if he lost in the semis this year to Djok, rather than in the final to Nadal.
 
I think Fed has more pressure. If Nadal loses, oh well he was injured again, doesn't count. If Federer loses, both the media and forum trolls will speculate that he isn't the GOAT, which obviously means a lot to him.
 
Rippy said:
Federer will be under pressure from the *******s, for sure. So I'd say he'll be under more pressure. I honestly think that for some bizarre reason, people would think of Federer as a better player if he lost in the semis this year to Djok, rather than in the final to Nadal.
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How true. Is tennis the only sport where losing earlier can be viewed as BETTER for one's career?

If Nadal plays the first semi and wins, Federer should just LOSE ON PURPOSE to make sure he doesn't lose to Nadal!
 
Cesc Fabregas said:
Federer will have more pressure, because if he loses to Nadal again the knives will be out again.
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Agreed. Federer has 3 Slams and GOAT status to lose.

Fed-Nadal matches remiind me of a freshman guy in college. He was obnoxious to his teachers, classmates, everyone, and had to be reported to the authorities. Reason? He came from a high school in a remote place where he was used to being the top of his class in everything. A big fish in a small pond. When he landed up in college, he was getting Ds in all his courses and demanded that the teachers change it to As.

Fed is the best in the high school crowd, but when he faces a collegian (Nadal), it all collapses.
 
Polvorin said:
I think Fed has more pressure. If Nadal loses, oh well he was injured again, doesn't count. If Federer loses, both the media and forum trolls will speculate that he isn't the GOAT, which obviously means a lot to him.
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Going for a Career Slam is a TON of pressure!
 
sureshs said:
Agreed. Federer has 3 Slams and GOAT status to lose.
Fed-Nadal matches remiind me of a freshman guy in college. He was obnoxious to his teachers, classmates, everyone, and had to be reported to the authorities. Reason? He came from a high school in a remote place where he was used to being the top of his class in everything. A big fish in a small pond. When he landed up in college, he was getting Ds in all his courses and demanded that the teachers change it to As.

Fed is the best in the high school crowd, but when he faces a collegian (Nadal), it all collapses.
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But he has Cincinnati! He must be GOAT!
 
Rippy said:
Federer will be under pressure from the *******s, for sure. So I'd say he'll be under more pressure. I honestly think that for some bizarre reason, people would think of Federer as a better player if he lost in the semis this year to Djok, rather than in the final to Nadal.
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huh?What it matters what the microcosmos of this forum think?

I agree with JennyS.I think Nadal will be under much more pressure than Fed if they meet in the final.
 
Polvorin said:
I think Fed has more pressure. If Nadal loses, oh well he was injured again, doesn't count. If Federer loses, both the media and forum trolls will speculate that he isn't the GOAT, which obviously means a lot to him.
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Roger wont have as much pressure as he did before because IMO he cared more for the record than anything else.But I agree Nadal as usual gets himself in a win-win position.
 
malakas said:
huh?What it matters what the microcosmos of this forum think?

I agree with JennyS.I think Nadal will be under much more pressure than Fed if they meet in the final.
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If Federer loses the final to Nadal, he still has the French Open. He still has the Slam record. He would be HAPPY with his year. Nadal is a bad matchup for him that I consider him the UNDERDOG in ALL OF THEIR MATCHES regardless of the surface or Nadal's condition.
 
Yes, Nadal's tactical win-win situation manoeuvres are annoying. If he beats Fed, we get the joy of listening to *******s saying "OMGOMG MEGALOLZ FED CUDN'T EVEN BEAT A CRIPPLED NADAL!!!!!!11111", and if Federer beats Nadal, "It doesn't count, since Nadal was injured."
 
JennyS said:
If Federer loses the final to Nadal, he still has the French Open. He still has the Slam record. He would be HAPPY with his year. Nadal is a bad matchup for him that I consider him the UNDERDOG in ALL OF THEIR MATCHES regardless of the surface or Nadal's condition.
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yes.Also Rafa after the FO and Wimbledon letdowns will want to show he's back and starts winning slams again.
Anyway,after this year,and with his children, I think Fed will in general be more relaxed.
 
Federer already said after FO that the monkey is off his back and Nadal's got a potential career slam if he wins so I'll say Nadal.
 
IMO ALL the pressure would be on Federer but it wouldn't be as bad as it could have been had he not already broken the career Major title mark. Nadal's recent absenses from Major finals and his pain in his abdomen will serve to mitigate expectation and even perhaps win over the crowd sympathetic to his current plight and viewing him as the underdog. I don't think he is comfortable with how he has been treated as the favorite in the past, particulary here at the Open vs. anyone else.

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Rippy said:
Yes, Nadal's tactical win-win situation manoeuvres are annoying. If he beats Fed, we get the joy of listening to *******s saying "OMGOMG MEGALOLZ FED CUDN'T EVEN BEAT A CRIPPLED NADAL!!!!!!11111", and if Federer beats Nadal, "It doesn't count, since Nadal was injured."
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that's only how the nadal fans in thsi forum post,that has nothing to do with real life..or logic for the matter.Don't stoop yourself to their level by responding to them.:)
 
Cesc Fabregas said:
Federer will have more pressure, because if he loses to Nadal again the knives will be out again.
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Agreed.

I don't think Nadal has much pressure at all since he (and everyone else) didn't expect him to make it this deep into the tournament. Everything from this point forward is simply a bonus.

Federer on the other hand is going for his 6th straight USO and will have to get through his kryptonite to accomplish that feat. Federer historically tightens up big time in these types of matches.

Pressure is definitely on Federer.
 
Nadal will get torn up like a tennis ball under the lawnmower if he meets Fed in the final. I doubt he will get past Delpo though so it matters little. Nadal usually fails to meet Fed in hardcourt finals.
 
Shaolin said:
Nadal will get torn up like a tennis ball under the lawnmower if he meets Fed in the final. I doubt he will get past Delpo though so it matters little. Nadal usually fails to meet Fed in hardcourt finals.
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Quoted for historical purposes :grin:
 
Bud said:
I don't think Nadal has much pressure at all since he (and everyone else) didn't expect him to make it this deep into the tournament. Everything from this point forward is simply a bonus.
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Good way of thinking about it. It will be interesting to see the pundits picks if both federer and nadal make it to the final.
 
Nadal has other options if he loses, but ya definetly there is more pressure. But pressure represents opputunity. If nadal can capatilize then we can see a new US open champion assuming Fed and Nadal can get there.
 
Wait a minute. Fed won 4 slams before Nadal even became a contender at the French. Let's not pretend Fed's career should be entirely judged vis a vis Nadal, ok?
 
flyinghippos101 said:
Dude he has 15 grand slams, he's established his legacy. Like he's gonna give two ***** about a few old men saying he's not the goat.
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The Federer/Nadal rivalry could wind up playing out like the Evert/Navratilova matchup. Evert won 18 Slams (7 French Opens, 6 US Opens, 3 Wimbledons, 2 Australian Opens), but was 4-10 against Navratilova in Slams. She never beat Martina at Wimbledon or the US Open.

Did Martina really have a much better better career than Chris? They both won 18 Slams, so obviously they were both amazing players. Could it be that Martina was just a bad matchup for her? Like Nadal, Martina was also left handed. A huge advantage even if the players are equally talented.



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Fed is playing great tennis, Nadal has yet to show us that he can complete at that level. Neither Fed or Nadal have had particulary tough opponents as of yet. However, Fed has shown us in the last couple months that he is playing at a high level.
 
average joe said:
yeah nobody expects an injured and rusty Nadal to win the USO this year. If Federer can't win the USO with the easy draw he had, an injured Nadal, Murray and Roddick losing early and Djokovic in crappy form, on his favorite surface, he wll be exposed again. Federer doesn't have any excuse for losing it.
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How about, he's already won 2 Slams in a year and winning 3 in a year four different times is a VERY hard feat to pull off?!
 
JennyS said:
The Federer/Nadal rivalry could wind up playing out like the Evert/Navratilova matchup. Evert won 18 Slams (7 French Opens, 6 US Opens, 3 Wimbledons, 2 Australian Opens), but was 4-10 against Navratilova in Slams. She never beat Martina at Wimbledon or the US Open.

Did Martina really have a much better better career than Chris? They both won 18 Slams, so obviously they were both amazing players. Could it be that Martina was just a bad matchup for her? Like Nadal, Martina was also left handed. A huge advantage even if the players are equally talented.



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Do you really think Nadal will 15+ slams?
 
ArrowSmith said:
Do you really think Nadal will 15+ slams?
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If Nadal can continue winning a slam a year or possibly grabbing at least 2 in some years.. Sure he could. Everyone is so quick to right Nadal off, yet he continues to prove people wrong.


Nadal wont dominate consistently, but he still has a lot left in the tank to where he can just focus on slams. Another 9? Its possible
 
average joe said:
yeah nobody expects an injured and rusty Nadal to win the USO this year. If Federer can't win the USO with the easy draw he had, an injured Nadal, Murray and Roddick losing early and Djokovic in crappy form, on his favorite surface, he wll be exposed again. Federer doesn't have any excuse for losing it.
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You guys certainly have a monopoly on the excuses, don't you? You've got them all lined up and at your disposal it seems.

Do I have to remind you Murray was on Nadal's side of the draw?
 
Cesc Fabregas said:
Federer will have more pressure, because if he loses to Nadal again the knives will be out again.
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I agree, Roger's fans are out right mean to him when he loses. Pat McEnroe talked tons of **** about Roger. Just plain crazy when Nadal fans have to stick up for Roger.................
 
If Wickmayer, a dark horse wins the USO... she'd almost jump into the top 10 :shock:

(noticed that as I was looking at the OOP) :)
 
average joe said:
yeah nobody expects an injured and rusty Nadal to win the USO this year. If Federer can't win the USO with the easy draw he had, an injured Nadal, Murray and Roddick losing early and Djokovic in crappy form, on his favorite surface, he wll be exposed again. Federer doesn't have any excuse for losing it.
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Fed is an old family man,who expects him to win? What excuse have Nadal/Murray/Djokovic not to win USO when defending champion is an old exhausted man? It would be embarrasing if Fed won again.
 
I am seeing all kinds of threads popping up questioning Nadal's injuries etc. This indicates *******s are mentally preparing for a devastating Fed loss on Monday.

You will see several variants of this: Nadal is faking it to catch Fed off-guard, Fed is a family man now, after 15 Slams there is no motivation, and so on.

But the inevitable will happen.
 
Nadal has been taking out the pressure during the tournament, because he knows HC is hard for him, so he probably felt, ok, It is really difficult, I wont probably do it, and if I get SF its ok for me.

Federer even with the grad slam is the king of USO, and he would like to win again. If he looses in his own land is like if Nadal loose against fed in Clay.

The pressure is on the Fed roof.
 
I feel like fed would have more pressure. He's the defending champion and he hasn't beaten nadal in a GS, since wimbly 2007. Plus he's kind of put in a lose-lose situation. If he wins, it won't count, because nadal is not 100%. If he loses, he's a clown, because he can't even beat nadal on his worst surface when he's not even 100%.
 
Two can play at this game

zagor said:
Fed is an old family man,who expects him to win? What excuse have Nadal/Murray/Djokovic not to win USO when defending champion is an old exhausted man? It would be embarrasing if Fed won again.
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LOL I love it. :lol:
 
Let'sst see Nadal beat Del Potro first. Del Potro has the edge in that match. And if Roger loses so what! He has one 2 majors and is appearing in his 22nd consecutive GS final. That record is just insane.
 
Fed has kept winning throughout the critisism. It is not easy being judged by people who are wondering if you are the greatest of all time. Fed has removed the pressure from himself by completing a career GS and by breaking Pete's record. With that said I am sure he would love to get a chance to beat Nadal in the final.
 
Shaolin said:
Nadal will get torn up like a tennis ball under the lawnmower if he meets Fed in the final. I doubt he will get past Delpo though so it matters little. Nadal usually fails to meet Fed in hardcourt finals.
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Bud said:
Quoted for historical purposes :grin:
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Like I said, it matters little. Nadal is seldom good enough to meet up with Fed in hardcourt finals.
 
Bud said:
Agreed.

I don't think Nadal has much pressure at all since he (and everyone else) didn't expect him to make it this deep into the tournament. Everything from this point forward is simply a bonus.

Federer on the other hand is going for his 6th straight USO and will have to get through his kryptonite to accomplish that feat. Federer historically tightens up big time in these types of matches.

Pressure is definitely on Federer.
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Rafa must be glad the pressure is off him now.;) Let Fed have all the pressure coz some pansy can't handle the pressure of being No.1.
 
sureshs said:
I am seeing all kinds of threads popping up questioning Nadal's injuries etc. This indicates *******s are mentally preparing for a devastating Fed loss on Monday.

You will see several variants of this: Nadal is faking it to catch Fed off-guard, Fed is a family man now, after 15 Slams there is no motivation, and so on.

But the inevitable will happen.
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What exactly is "the inevitable"?
 
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