If Todd Martin played today would he ever be ranked in the top ten?

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I was watching the 1999 US Open final between Todd Martin and Andre Agassi and was stunned by this guy. He seems to be a relic from a past era and I don't remember him very well from that time period. His game wasn't very exciting and it got me thinking. If this guy played today would he even rank in the top ten. Further more would he ever make a Grand Slam final against the likes of even top twenty players like Isner?
Here is the link to refresh your memory.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X8pFHBo1uo
 
Easily. Top 5 definitely, maybe shunt Murray down to 4. From the baseline he played a lot like Del Potro, he wouldn't bother serving and volleying today.
 
If at his best he would be at worst #5. It isnt that hard to make todays top 10. Tipsarevic recently was ranked #8, and Todd Martin is twice the player he is.
 
Seriously?
His best was maybe a 1.5 year period, like most tall guys. Are we talking him at his peak?
He would be susceptible to today's power baseline players running him ragged from alley to alley.
Most of today's pros have faced DelPo's, Soderlings, Dr.Ivo's, Andy, and Milos serves. They can return to hit feet all day.
Conjecture like this is pointless. Why not pick RichardKraijeck?
 
maybe. mardy fish is very similar

Todd Martin was considerably better than Mardy Fish. Martin has been an Australian Open and US Open finalist, and also blew a 5-1 fifth set lead in a Wimbledon semi final. He was only guy to take a set from Sampras at 1994 Wimbledon during their semi final match, having beaten Sampras in the 1994 Queen's Club final.

Speaking of the 1999 US Open, Martin's victory over Rusedski in the Round of 16 was one of the best night matches you'll see. Rusedski was leading 7-5, 6-0, 5-4 and was serving for a seemingly easy win, and then everything changed. Martin broke back and the third set ended up in a tiebreak, which Martin won. Martin also won the fourth set, 6-4. However, Rusedski took a 4-1 lead in the fifth set and seemed to be on his way to victory again. Then, incredibly, Martin won 20 of the next 21 points to win the match 5-7, 0-6, 7-6, 6-4, 6-4.
 
Todd is a top 10 player in today's game. He had a big serve, solid ground strokes, moved well for a big guy and decent volley. He is a poor man's version of Sampras but not by much. Definitely a much better player than Fish and Isner.
 
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I don't ever recall wearing such short shorts in 1999, let alone tucking in my shirt.... I remember wearing board shorts and Quiksilver Ts on court. Crap this looks like something taken out from the 80s.
 
I don't think he'd trouble the big 4 much, it's not too much of a push to see him at 5 over Ferrer and Tsonga though.
 
He'd be up in the top 10 at his peak, like Soderling, Berdych, Fish. As BeHappy said, his game would be somewhat different and he wouldn't be serve and volleying. Having a 2hBH was a negative for serve and volley, but would be a positive today.
 
As has been pointed out, if Fish and Tipsarevic can be in the top 10, so could Martin. He had a big game and many wonderful attributes:

- Very good return game; particularly his backhand return. He was 6'4 or 6'5 so kick serves did not bother him too much
- Had a big serve and according to Agassi a very accurate one too. He'd miss by inches
- Good volleyer
- A thinker on the court

But he had some notable weaknesses:

- Mentally weak, in that he wasn't a closer. He was a fighter though; compare him to Nalbandian if you will in that sense.
- Mediocre movement (from what I remember and know). At least his lateral movement was suspect, but he was sharp when going for the kill at the net.
- I don't think his forehand was anything special. Low margin for error but he could hit big shots off either wing.

I think his biggest problem was between the years. He had the tools to beat most players and he did produce big upsets on occasion such as when:

- Beating Edberg at the 1994 Australian Open
- Beating Agassi at the 1994 Wimbledon

On the flip side, he was a choker like on the following occasions:

- The infamous 1996 Wimbledon semi final against Malivai Washington. He was 5-1 up in the 5th and should not lost that match on a slick grass court.

- I believe he was a double break up against Agassi in the fifth set of the second round at Wimbledon 2000 but couldn't close him out. You could tell after the match that Agassi felt sorry for Martin's mental issues as much as he felt relieved about his own escapade

Would he be able to crack the top 10 in today's game? Definitely (assuming he would make adjustments to his game based on conditions today).

Would he able to make a Slam final? Doubt it. Dare I say he's a poor man's Tsonga? - though more intelligent and with a better serve. And that can take you far. So who knows? Maybe he could eke out a win against a Murray/Djokovic by playing lights out tennis.

Actually, Tsonga moves really well in comparison so that's not a good analogy.
 
I don't ever recall wearing such short shorts in 1999, let alone tucking in my shirt.... I remember wearing board shorts and Quiksilver Ts on court. Crap this looks like something taken out from the 80s.

Haha that is exactly what I thought when I saw this match that is one of the reasons I posted the link! It makes me feel really old watching something from 1999 that looks ancient.
 
Sure he would, just because the top of the rankings is elite, doesn't mean it filters down to the whole top 10.
 
Peak Todd Martin on today's courts would not be a consistent top ten player. He'd be a Marty Fish sort of player - sometimes there but really in a league a few notches down from the top guys and a notch down from the next tier (the Tsonga/Berdych/Ferrer type players).

Even then, those old videos often flatter players because of their speed. Slow the conditions down and what seems to get highlighted the most is any movement issues. Martin, by today's standards, would be a pretty average mover - in the Soderling league. He did have a fair bit going for him though - he was a clever player and solid on serve and return.
 
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