If you add Wimbledon points to current rankings to the top 20 players…

[Rattie]

I’ve seen a number of posts recently relating to players losing out on points they would have earned at WB22, so thought it might be interesting to see what those points would have looked like added to their current totals. Obviously Medvedev, Rublev and Khachanov didn’t even have that chance but anyway….Currently the live rankings today for the top 20 players are:

1 Alcaraz - 5940
2 Ruud - 5850
3 Nadal - 5810
4 Medvedev - 5065
5 Zverev - 5040
6 Tsitsipas- 4810
7 Djokovic- 3570
8 Norrie - 3550
9 Rublev - 3390
10 Hurkatz - 3355
11 Sinner - 3200
12 Fritz - 3055
13 FAA - 2950
14 PCB - 2510
15 Berrettini- 2360
16 Cilic - 2345
17 Schwartzman - 2110
18 Khachanov - 1990
19 Tiafoe - 1940
20 Kyrgios -1780

Add Wimbledon points and the top 20 would look like this today:

1 Nadal - 6530
2 Alcaraz - 6120
3 Ruud - 5895
4 Djokovic - 5570
5 Medvedev - 5065
6 Zverev - 5040
7 Tsitsipas- 4900
8 Norrie - 4270
9 Sinner - 3560
10 Fritz - 3415
11 Rublev - 3390
12 Hurkatz - 3365
13 Kyrgios 2980
14 FAA - 2960
15 PCB - 2520
16 Berrettini- 2360
17 Cilic - 2345
18 Schwartzman - 2155
19 Tiafoe - 2120
20 Khachanov - 1990

Meaning should Ruud win the USO he would have been #1 with 6695, Nadal #2 and Alcaraz #3
If Alcaraz wins he would have been #1 with 6920, Nadal #2 and Ruud #3

Those who lost out are:
Nadal would be #2 rather than #3 post USO
Djokovic would be #4 rather than #7 which he is now.
Sinner and Fritz would have been inside the top 10 instead of outside it.
Kyrgios would be ranked 13 not 20

A few players are actually ranked slightly higher than they would have been had WB given points.

 

[DSH]

I’ve seen a number of posts recently relating to players losing out on points they would have earned at WB22, so thought it might be interesting to see what those points would have looked like added to their current totals. Obviously Medvedev, Rublev and Khachanov didn’t even have that chance but anyway….Currently the live rankings today for the top 20 players are:

1 Alcaraz - 5940
2 Ruud - 5850
3 Nadal - 5810
4 Medvedev - 5065
5 Zverev - 5040
6 Tsitsipas- 4810
7 Djokovic- 3570
8 Norrie - 3550
9 Rublev - 3390
10 Hurkatz - 3355
11 Sinner - 3200
12 Fritz - 3055
13 FAA - 2950
14 PCB - 2510
15 Berrettini- 2360
16 Cilic - 2345
17 Schwartzman - 2110
18 Khachanov - 1990
19 Tiafoe - 1940
20 Kyrgios -1780

Add Wimbledon points and the top 20 would look like this today:

1 Nadal - 6530
2 Alcaraz - 6120
3 Ruud - 5895
4 Djokovic - 5570
5 Medvedev - 5065
6 Zverev - 5040
7 Tsitsipas- 4900
8 Norrie - 4270
9 Sinner - 3560
10 Fritz - 3415
11 Rublev - 3390
12 Hurkatz - 3365
13 Kyrgios 2980
14 FAA - 2960
15 PCB - 2520
16 Berrettini- 2360
17 Cilic - 2345
18 Schwartzman - 2155
19 Tiafoe - 2120
20 Khachanov - 1990

Meaning should Ruud win the USO he would have been #1 with 6695, Nadal #2 and Alcaraz #3
If Alcaraz wins he would have been #1 with 6920, Nadal #2 and Ruud #3

Those who lost out are:
Nadal would be #2 rather than #3 post USO
Djokovic would be #4 rather than #7 which he is now.
Sinner and Fritz would have been inside the top 10 instead of outside it.
Kyrgios would be ranked 13 not 20

A few players are actually ranked slightly higher than they would have been had WB given points.

Damn the ATP guys!

 

[3loudboys]

Nice work.

 

[BGod]

I think it's pretty clear Novak got the most screwed followed by Fritz/Sinner who might lose out on juicy WTF points/money.

Kyrgios since he lost in USO Quarters his season doesn't change much really.

 

[Sudacafan]

I’ve seen a number of posts recently relating to players losing out on points they would have earned at WB22, so thought it might be interesting to see what those points would have looked like added to their current totals. Obviously Medvedev, Rublev and Khachanov didn’t even have that chance but anyway….Currently the live rankings today for the top 20 players are:

1 Alcaraz - 5940
2 Ruud - 5850
3 Nadal - 5810
4 Medvedev - 5065
5 Zverev - 5040
6 Tsitsipas- 4810
7 Djokovic- 3570
8 Norrie - 3550
9 Rublev - 3390
10 Hurkatz - 3355
11 Sinner - 3200
12 Fritz - 3055
13 FAA - 2950
14 PCB - 2510
15 Berrettini- 2360
16 Cilic - 2345
17 Schwartzman - 2110
18 Khachanov - 1990
19 Tiafoe - 1940
20 Kyrgios -1780

Add Wimbledon points and the top 20 would look like this today:

1 Nadal - 6530
2 Alcaraz - 6120
3 Ruud - 5895
4 Djokovic - 5570
5 Medvedev - 5065
6 Zverev - 5040
7 Tsitsipas- 4900
8 Norrie - 4270
9 Sinner - 3560
10 Fritz - 3415
11 Rublev - 3390
12 Hurkatz - 3365
13 Kyrgios 2980
14 FAA - 2960
15 PCB - 2520
16 Berrettini- 2360
17 Cilic - 2345
18 Schwartzman - 2155
19 Tiafoe - 2120
20 Khachanov - 1990

Meaning should Ruud win the USO he would have been #1 with 6695, Nadal #2 and Alcaraz #3
If Alcaraz wins he would have been #1 with 6920, Nadal #2 and Ruud #3

Those who lost out are:
Nadal would be #2 rather than #3 post USO
Djokovic would be #4 rather than #7 which he is now.
Sinner and Fritz would have been inside the top 10 instead of outside it.
Kyrgios would be ranked 13 not 20

A few players are actually ranked slightly higher than they would have been had WB given points.

I think the biggest effect in ranking positions is of Rybakina in the WTA.
She is now #25. If Wimbledon awarded points, she would be #5.

 

[BumElbow]

Interesting but the accounting does not and cannot take into consideration another big what if . . . namely, what if the Russians and Belarussians were allowed to participate in Wimbledon 2022? They would also have earned points and that cannot be reflected in this interesting analysis.

 

[Sudacafan]

Someone should implement the ARCW 2022: Alternative Rankings Considering Wimbledon 2022.

 

[DSH]

I think it's pretty clear Novak got the most screwed followed by Fritz/Sinner who might lose out on juicy WTF points/money.

Kyrgios since he lost in USO Quarters his season doesn't change much really.

Nadal could lose his 6 Year End number 1 season because the ATP decided to take Wimbledon's points away.

 

[Sudacafan]

Interesting but the accounting does not and cannot take into consideration another big what if . . . namely, what if the Russians and Belarussians were allowed to participate in Wimbledon 2022? They would also have earned points and that cannot be reflected in this interesting analysis.

Interestingly, the player more affected by this is also Russian born, Rybakina, as said above.

 

[Rattie]

Interesting but the accounting does not and cannot take into consideration another big what if . . . namely, what if the Russians and Belarussians were allowed to participate in Wimbledon 2022? They would also have earned points and that cannot be reflected in this interesting analysis.

Yes I mentioned that in the OP. Unfortunately there is no way of knowing.

I suppose you could look at Medvedev, Rublev and Khanchanov’s WB21 performances and hypothetically add the points they earned then, so everyone has points added. There was an argument pre WB for freezing their points, which didn’t happen.
If you do then you would get:
Medvedev +180
Rublev +180
Khachanov +360

Which translates to this:

1 Nadal - 6530
2 Alcaraz - 6120
3 Ruud - 5895
4 Djokovic - 5570
5 Medvedev - 5245
6 Zverev - 5040
7 Tsitsipas- 4900
8 Norrie - 4270
9 Rublev - 3570
10 Sinner - 3560
11 Fritz - 3415
12 Hurkatz - 3365
13 Kyrgios 2980
14 FAA - 2960
15 PCB - 2520
16 Berrettini- 2360
17 Khachanov - 2350
18 Cilic - 2345
19 Schwartzman - 2155
20 Tiafoe - 2120

So Medvedev’s ranking would be unaffected, Rublev would be ranked #9, rather than 11, and Khachanov would be ranked #17 rather than 20.

 

[Lauren_Girl']

So Djokovic would be hardly 1000 points behind the world #1.
1000 points. It's ridiculous, when you consider he missed the ATP Cup, 4 Masters and 2 Slams because of politics. That's a potential total of 8750 points. And all on hard courts, his favorite surface. SMH

 

[Deleted member 791948]

Regardless of the logic or reasons behind the ATP's decision to withhold points from Wimbledon (or the reasons for Wimbledon banning Russians), the fact remains that Nadal is the best player of 2022 despite all his injuries and missed events.

 

[Sudacafan]

Regardless of the logic or reasons behind the ATP's decision to withhold points from Wimbledon (or the reasons for Wimbledon banning Russians), the fact remains that Nadal is the best player of 2022 despite all his injuries and missed events.

When he’s not injured, he’s always the best player. We’ve known that for years.

 

[Sudacafan]

So Djokovic would be hardly 1000 points behind the world #1.
1000 points. It's ridiculous, when you consider he missed the ATP Cup, 4 Masters and 2 Slams because of politics. That's a potential total of 8750 points. And all on hard courts, his favorite surface. SMH

I agree. That’s ridiculous.

 

[Rattie]

So Djokovic would be hardly 1000 points behind the world #1.
1000 points. It's ridiculous, when you consider he missed the ATP Cup, 4 Masters and 2 Slams because of politics. That's a potential total of 8750 points. And all on hard courts, his favorite surface. SMH

Not quite. Had his Wimbledon points counted, so would Alcaraz’s points so the gap now would be :
Alcaraz 6920
Djokovic 5570
A gap of 1350.
But I take your point, that’s a very closeable gap had Novak been able to play all the events you mention.

 

[zvelf]

Regardless of the logic or reasons behind the ATP's decision to withhold points from Wimbledon (or the reasons for Wimbledon banning Russians), the fact remains that Nadal is the best player of 2022 despite all his injuries and missed events.

No. With Alcaraz's U.S. Open win, he is #1 for the year so far even with Wimbledon points included.

 

[Moon Shooter]

The question is not just what if Wimbledon was added but what if Djokovic and Russian players could have competed. That is why the current atp rankings are completely worthless.

 

[mike danny]

The question is not just what if Wimbledon was added but what if Djokovic and Russian players could have competed. That is why the current atp rankings are completely worthless.

Med would have very likely not passed the 4th round.

 

[ewiewp]

There will be an official and unofficial ranking for 2022 in tennis history book, no?

 

[Moon Shooter]

Med would have very likely not passed the 4th round.

How many tournaments was he prevented from playing in?
Djokovic was not allowed to play in the Australian open or any of the various North American tournaments. If he was just allowed to play How bad would he have to play to not be number 1? If he were allowed in to all these tournaments it seems impossible he would not be number 1.

 

[mike danny]

How many tournaments was he prevented from playing in?
Djokovic was not allowed to play in the Australian open or any of the various North American tournaments. If he was just allowed to play How bad would he have to play to not be number 1? If he were allowed in to all these tournaments it seems impossible he would not be number 1.

Not disputing that, just saying that Med wouldn't have done much at Wimb. His losses in the grass warm-ups and his USO performance seem to support this view.