If you could change the outcome of any point in tennis history..

[FedExpress117]

Which point would you choose?

Roddick had 2 break points against Fed in the 5th set of the 2009 Wimbledon Final. Win any of those two, and he surely goes to serve out the match. I would have probably chosen to change either of those break points.

 

[Grgisme]

RG 2013 SF

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[Chico]

RG 2013 SF

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This is the second thing I would do. Just stop Pascal Maria from showing up on Chartrier that day. Novak would have 10 slams, while Nadal would be at 11 now if Pascal Maria's robbery was stopped on that day.

However, before that, I would stop Gunther Parche from attacking and stabbing Monica Seles. It would be Seles 16 slams, Graf 15 slams now and no one would ever consider Graf as GOAT.

These are the two most terrible things that ever happened in tennis history on tennis court. The world would be a much better place if these two things were prevented.

 

[Grgisme]

LOL

You compare stabbing Monica Seles with one mistake made by Pascal Maria? I'm speechless.

You really think that Novak would have 10 slams if he won that day, and Nadal wouldn't win any in two years? You are really deluded.

 

[Grgisme]

And I'm a die hard Djokovic fan

 

[syc23]

That inside out FH Federer hit against Haas at RG '09 or Roddick missing the chance to go 2 sets up at Wimby '09 final.

 

[Mustard]

Muster to win the 1996 French Open.

 

[TheFifthSet]

This is the second thing I would do. Just stop Pascal Maria from showing up on Chartrier that day. Novak would have 10 slams, while Nadal would be at 11 now if Pascal Maria's robbery was stopped on that day.

However, before that, I would stop Gunther Parche from attacking and stabbing Monica Seles. It would be Seles 16 slams, Graf 15 slams now and no one would ever consider Graf as GOAT.

These are the two most terrible things that ever happened in tennis history on tennis court. The world would be a much better place if these two things were prevented.

Pascal made the right call. In what way was it wrong?

 

[Deleted member 307496]

That match point Federer had at 2011 USO against Djokovic.

 

[Grgisme]

Pascal made the right call. In what way was it wrong?

I think he's thinking about 3rd set. The ball was called good on break point for Nadal. Hawkeye later showed that it was out. It was a mistake, but it wasn't fatal. In 2014 final, Maria made at least two mistakes against Nadal

 

[Chico]

Pascal made the right call. In what way was it wrong?

I explained 100 times what Pascal Maria did and how he robbed Novak on that sad day for tennis history and that is not that net call. You would know if you even watched the match. If you didn't search function of this nice forum is your friend.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Nadal 2012 AO, #datbackhand

 

[Djokovic2011]

That match point Federer had at 2011 USO against Djokovic.

And you've been crying over it ever since.


:twisted:

 

[Grgisme]

Anyway, on 2013 FO SF, I smoked entire pack of cigarettes during the match

 

[tennisaddict]

2009 USO final, Fed leading a set and break, serving for a 2 set lead, hits a poor drop shot even with the court wide open.

Fed will have the Federer Grand slam , but for that point.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Anyway, on 2013 FO SF, I smoked entire pack of cigarettes during the match

It was Nadal on clay, what did you expect?

 

[moonballs]

Actually to give Chico some credit, his events are all non player related. Players did the best they could but umpiring and violence from the fans were totally out of the players' control. In comparison all of your nominations were simply wishing how a players could have played better (or worse) than he actually did.

My nomination would be for the 2008 W final to be suspended at the last rain delay due to poor lighting. In fact I didn't see the last bit live because everyone was pretty sure the match could not be resumed during that last rain delay.

 

[Grgisme]

It was Nadal on clay, what did you expect?

I expected a great match, and I got that. You cannot always win.

Nadal was awesome, no doubt about it.

 

[merwy]

That match point Federer had at 2011 USO against Djokovic.

Yep, that one for me as well.
Another interesting one that no one talks about is the volley Djokovic missed against wawrinka AO2014, the final point of the match. If he had made that simple volley, who knows? Wawrinka might not have a slam now and Djokovic would have another slam.

 

[sportsfan1]

Which point would you choose?

Roddick had 2 break points against Fed in the 5th set of the 2009 Wimbledon Final. Win any of those two, and he surely goes to serve out the match. I would have probably chosen to change either of those break points.

It's possible that Roddick may have won if he got two sets up, but not a certainty. Fed's come back from two sets down and beaten players who were no slouches many times - Monfils, Haas etc.

 

[The_Order]

Either:

Roddick missing that bh volley in the 2nd set TB WIM09 final.

Nadal missing the bh pass in the 5th set AO12 final.

 

[rodrigoamaral]

djoko vs fed us open sem's a few years back.. djoko closes eyes saves match point, hits a return winner and wins the match and tment.

 

[The_Order]

It's possible that Roddick may have won if he got two sets up, but not a certainty. Fed's come back from two sets down and beaten players who were no slouches many times - Monfils, Haas etc.

LOL you didn't even read his post before quoting it. Good job.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Either:

Roddick missing that bh volley in the 2nd set TB WIM09 final.

Nadal missing the bh pass in the 5th set AO12 final.

If you had to pick I'm guessing you'd go with the former T_O?

 

[cc0509]

That match point Federer had at 2011 USO against Djokovic.

+1. That would probably be my first choice too.

 

[TheFifthSet]

I explained 100 times what Pascal Maria did and how he robbed Novak on that sad day for tennis history and that is not that net call. You would know if you even watched the match. If you didn't search function of this nice forum is your friend.

I did watch the match. I was heartbroken by it. I honestly thought Djokovic was gonna overcome the Nadal juggernaut on clay.

The only other thing I can think of is the time violation warning he gave Djokovic. But, Nadal received two himself, right? I recall Djokovic was flustered by the warning, as it came at an inopportune time. But I don't see what relation that had to the point that ultimately cost him the match -- when he touched the net on that put-away shot he had. Do you think he was so disconsolate that he lost focus, and forgot that traction is kind of important on a clay court?

Nah you're right, Pascal is the devil.


PS, sorry for not having memorized all of your posts off by heart. I will make a concerted effort to follow, read and recite them in my head from now on, so I can avoid the terrible embarrassment I have just caused myself. I also apologize for asking you a question in an extremely cordial manner. Can you find it in your heart to forgive this transgression?

 

[Djokovic2011]

+1. That would probably be my first choice too.

If ever there was a time where you felt Djokovic was attention seeking it must've been when Fed had match points and Novak was smiling and trying to get the crowd involved after he hit that incredible return. No wonder you dislike him so much cc0! :lol:

 

[Mainad]

5 of the top of my head:

1. I think I would have liked Coria to have converted 1 of his 2 championship points in the 2004 FO final. If only one of those DTL forehands had landed just an inch closer, it would have hit the line and no-one today would be talking about him as the biggest choker in tennis history and Gaudio as the flukiest Slam winner. Instead, they might be talking about Coria, the multi-winning French Open champion!

2. I would have liked Roddick to have converted 1 of his 6 set points in the 2nd set of the 2009 Wimbledon final. It would have given him a 2 set lead and maybe boosted his confidence to put Federer away in the 3rd. We might now be talking of Roddick as a Wimbledon champion instead of the player who got so near but could never cross the finishing line.

3. I would have liked Federer to have converted his match point against Djokovic in the semi-final of 2010 US Open. We would then have had a Federer-Nadal final at the only Grand Slam where they have yet to meet! (I did consider letting Djokovic's famous cross court forehand land just beyond the line in the 2011 semis but I decided I didn't want to deprive him of his only US Open title to date).

4. Similarly to Roddick, I wish Murray would have converted the break point he had against Federer in the 2nd set of 2012 Wimbledon final. He might then have served out for a
2 set lead and put himself, like Roddick above, in a commanding position in that match. Who knows but the famous Wimbledon duck might have been broken a year earlier than it did and Murray might have gone on to become a 2 Slam winner that year along with his Olympic triumph.

5. I would allow Murray to have converted 1 of his 5 championship points in the final of 2012 Shanghai. This would have continued a winning momentum against Djokovic begun a month earlier at the US Open. It might have taken the wind out of Djokovic's sails to have lost twice in a month in successive big hardcourt finals against Murray and might have given Murray renewed confidence to play even better against Djokovic in their next hardcourt final, the 2013 Australian Open!

 

[cc0509]

If ever there was a time where you felt Djokovic was attention seeking it must've been when Fed had match points and Novak was smiling and trying to get the crowd involved after he hit that incredible return. No wonder you dislike him so much cc0! :lol:

Yes, that was not Djokovic's finest moment IMO.

 

[derek08844]

Either the Nadal backhand in 2012 or the Federer match point against Djoker.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Yes, that was not Djokovic's finest moment IMO.

Thank God it did the trick. :twisted:

 

[Andres]

2 that could change the outcome of tennis today

1. Nalbandian's MP against Roddick at the USO 2003. Nalbandian would probably had beaten Ferrero in the finals and perhaps, the panorama of world tennis for the next decade, being a much, much bigger rival for Federer's dominance.

2. Coria's MP against Gaudio at RG 2004. Same thing. Coria being a FO champion could also change the tides of his rivalry against Nadal on clay.

 

[cc0509]

2 that could change the outcome of tennis today

1. Nalbandian's MP against Roddick at the USO 2003. Nalbandian would probably had beaten Ferrero in the finals and perhaps, the panorama of world tennis for the next decade, being a much, much bigger rival for Federer's dominance.

2. Coria's MP against Gaudio at RG 2004. Same thing. Coria being a FO champion could also change the tides of his rivalry against Nadal on clay.

Nah, Nalbandian was too lazy and did not have it in him to be that caliber of a champion. It takes too much dedication.

 

[cc0509]

Thank God it did the trick. :twisted:

And you say you were a Federer fan? How anybody could go from being a Federer fan to a Djokovic fan I will never understand.

 

[triforce defender]

1. Gasquet converting one his many MPs vs Kyrgios at this year's Wimbledon

2. Berdych beating Wawrinka in this year's AO Semifinal.

3. Murray beating Djokovic in 2012 AO semifinal

4. Federer converting one of his MPs vs Djokovic in 2011 USO

5. Federer holding on to beat Tsonga in 2011 Wimbledon QF (so he would go on and beat Djokovic in SF and you know...)

 

[Phalagoo]

That match point Federer had at 2011 USO against Djokovic.

And me too.

And you've been crying over it ever since.


:twisted:

Many of us have...

 

[Phalagoo]

2. Berdych beating Wawrinka in this year's AO Semifinal.

You don't like that Wawrinka won the AO?

 

[triforce defender]

You don't like that Wawrinka won the AO?

No I just want Nadal to have won it ;-)

 

[DerekNoleFam1]

RG 2013, we was robbed.

 

[Phalagoo]

2009 USO final, Fed leading a set and break, serving for a 2 set lead, hits a poor drop shot even with the court wide open.

Fed will have the Federer Grand slam , but for that point.

Man...he would have held all four slams at once, given that he did go on to win the 2010 AO (Is that what "Federer Grand Slam" is supposed to be?). Just shows that no matter the records that are broken by top players like the Big 3, these greatest feats are usually unachieved.

 

[triforce defender]

RG 2013, we was robbed.

Chico has 2 accounts now?

 

[HRB]

Which point would you choose?

Roddick had 2 break points against Fed in the 5th set of the 2009 Wimbledon Final. Win any of those two, and he surely goes to serve out the match. I would have probably chosen to change either of those break points.

Wow, saw your thread, literally instantly thought of these points...left me GUTTED as it did A-Rod. He was never the same after. If it wan't for Rog I'd have put Andy at a 3 time Wimbly winner, 2 time US Open, and maybe an Aussie.

 

[chjtennis]

This is the second thing I would do. Just stop Pascal Maria from showing up on Chartrier that day. Novak would have 10 slams, while Nadal would be at 11 now if Pascal Maria's robbery was stopped on that day.

However, before that, I would stop Gunther Parche from attacking and stabbing Monica Seles. It would be Seles 16 slams, Graf 15 slams now and no one would ever consider Graf as GOAT.

These are the two most terrible things that ever happened in tennis history on tennis court. The world would be a much better place if these two things were prevented.

Good call on stabbing of Seles. She was like what Nadal is to Federer, to Graf.

However, you never know how many slams Seles and Graf would have won respectively even if that incident had not occurred. It's just speculation.

 

[jm1980]

djoko vs fed us open sem's a few years back.. djoko closes eyes saves match point, hits a return winner and wins the match and tment.

That match point Federer had at 2011 USO against Djokovic.

Yep, that one for me as well.

4. Federer converting one of his MPs vs Djokovic in 2011 USO)

And me too.

All of you must be Nadal fans. Because if Djoker lost to Fed that day, Nadal would have 15 Slams now, one more USO, and a 24-10 H2H over Fed (not that this last part matters much now)

 

[Deleted member 307496]

All of you must be Nadal fans. Because if Djoker lost to Fed that day, Nadal would have 15 Slams now, one more USO, and a 24-10 H2H over Fed (not that this last part matters much now)

I don't know about that.

 

[TopFH]

Any of RF's MPs in Rome 2006. IMO, that match defined the rest of the Nadal-Fed rivalry, especially on clay. A win there would have boosted Roger's confidence on that surface, and the H2H wouldn't be so lopsided.

That's just my opinion.

 

[The_Mental_Giant]

This is the second thing I would do. Just stop Pascal Maria from showing up on Chartrier that day. Novak would have 10 slams, while Nadal would be at 11 now if Pascal Maria's robbery was stopped on that day.

However, before that, I would stop Gunther Parche from attacking and stabbing Monica Seles. It would be Seles 16 slams, Graf 15 slams now and no one would ever consider Graf as GOAT.

These are the two most terrible things that ever happened in tennis history on tennis court. The world would be a much better place if these two things were prevented.

What patche did was the most awful thing to tennis legacy... as much as he liked steffi he ruinned her achievements.. now her goat status is questioned all the time...

About Pascal maria? did he also show up in the wimbledon final against Murray.. USo final in 2013 against nadal? you can give all the fault to a single man... novak is just a big ot a choker in important moments.. and Rafa is well.. Rafa on clay...

 

[Deleted member 688153]

If it would have changed the Fedal rivalry, I would pick Rome 06 MPs for Fed.

If it wouldn't, I would pick either the BPs Fed had in the fifth set at Wimbledon 2008, or more likely the MP he had against Safin at AO 2005.

That last one would have basically guaranteed him another slam, the only time where that is really the case I believe.

Then he has the AO for four straight years, and four straight 3-slam years.


If it is about just changing the outcome of a match, I would choose Wimbledon 2008 or RG 2011 final.

 

[Mr.Lob]

PS, sorry for not having memorized all of your posts off by heart. I will make a concerted effort to follow, read and recite them in my head from now on, so I can avoid the terrible embarrassment I have just caused myself. I also apologize for asking you a question in an extremely cordial manner. Can you find it in your heart to forgive this transgression?

Don't worry about it. It's called being "Chico'd". Happens to just about everybody.

Point here, point there...doesn't matter. The greatest players usually find a way to win the important points and the match.

 

[sbengte]

All of you must be Nadal fans. Because if Djoker lost to Fed that day, Nadal would have 15 Slams now, one more USO, and a 24-10 H2H over Fed (not that this last part matters much now)

Ha ha, this.
Fed's MP in the semi was a virtual championship point for Nadal and Nadal and Tio were most disappointed when that USO slipped away from them by that one outrageous point

No Fed fan has picked his ****headed dropshot vs Delpo in the second set of the USO '09 final ? Also I don't know if it was on the same point but a challenge that Delpo got right made the score 30-all instead of 40-15 , SP for Fed for 2 sets to love lead. That point and the game where Fed got broken clearly turned the match as I don't think there was any way in hell Delpo was coming back from a 2 sets deficit in his first GS final.