AO 09 final.
instead of bothering changing the outcome of 792 matches, couldn't we instead send a terminator in 1986 ?
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Matches where the loser was by far the best player:
RG 06 final (Federer)
US open semi of 10 and 11 (Federer)
Wimbledon 14 15 final (Federer)
US open final 15 (Federer)
Wimbledon semi 16 (Federer - he easily beats Murray in the final if he wins this semi)
I'd swap Wimbledon 2008 and Wimbledon 2009 results if I had the option - though I'd feel a bit bad for Rafa then, it was a glorious sporting moment when he won.
RG 13 SF.
Damn you Pascal.![]()
Oh come on! Lol damn. Nadal deserves his just as much as Roddick.
No doubt, but he has Wimbledon 2010 and Roddick has...
Plus I think winning Wimbledon 08 would have been epic![]()
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I was a Roddick fan before a Nadal fan, and it still irks me he lost Wimby 09, but just no.
Am I Goku in that?
Don't mess...
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And I didn't say my choice was for everyone![]()
Everyone wants to take Nadal's most epic slams lol. Guess it just proves he's epic![]()
Wimbledon is just THE slam for Federer that's all - plus I think going undefeated there against Nadal would be a nice feather in his cap.
I'm guessing not wanting Fed to lose a 3rd Slam final in eight months to his nemesis and at the same time prevent him ever achieving the Career Grand Slam probably has something to do with abmk's choice.Lol why? Plenty of other AO's you could give Federer, Nadal worked his ass off for that one.
I'm guessing not wanting Fed to lose a 3rd Slam final in eight months to his nemesis and at the same time prevent him ever achieving the Career Grand Slam probably has something to do with abmk's choice.![]()
Barfhe was lucky enough with 07. But we can't always agree
I would give Venus AO or FO 2002
Is it luck that Nadal couldn't finish his matches off quicker during the tournament? Or is it luck that the umpire decided to continue the 08 final for a few more games in rapidly fading light?The way I see it Federer won 2/3 epics at Wimbledon across 3 years in his prime, I can't complain too much but if I give Roddick 2009 then I can't have Federer losing 2/3 of those matches
- Nothing to do with spiting a nemesis BTW.[/QUOTE
Roddick can have Wimby 2011.
Federer could see the ball just fine![]()
USO 2007 for sure. Djokovic was so close in that match with the so called Peak invincible, amazing, mythical creature Federer and he wasn't even the half player that he is today. For the better part of that match he was the better player of the two, but his big match inexperience was kinda the decisive factor that day I feel.
Wonder what would have been the excuse in that case. No mono BS, no slow court argument, no age or decline excuses. But knowing the resident Federer nutjobs probably some virus or back problem would have occured 6 months later!
No chance.
sorry mickey... too lateOk, King Rafa then![]()
Yeah my bad, Federer was already old, past his prime and on decline at the age of 25 after the Canas demolition job in march 2007. Yeah, i forgot about that...Dude, Federer's decline started in early 2007. He wasn't the same after those back to back losses to peak Canas.
sorry mickey... too late
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are you suggesting the future is filled with donalds trumps ?!That must be when Donald Trump came too![]()
are you suggesting the future is filled with donalds trumps ?!![]()
how bout we change 09 and also 12? Deal?Lol why? Plenty of other AO's you could give Federer, Nadal worked his ass off for that one.
The 07 final came down to 3 difficult FH winners followed by 3 aces for Federer. Nadal did not seem tired or injured to me in the 5th set, he was still running down everything down to the last point.Is it luck that Nadal couldn't finish his matches off quicker during the tournament? Or is it luck that the umpire decided to continue the 08 final for a few more games in rapidly fading light?The way I see it Federer won 2/3 epics at Wimbledon across 3 years in his prime, I can't complain too much but if I give Roddick 2009 then I can't have Federer losing 2/3 of those matches
- Nothing to do with spiting a nemesis BTW.
The 07 final came down to 3 difficult FH winners followed by 3 aces for Federer. Nadal did not seem tired or injured to me in the 5th set, he was still running down everything down to the last point.
Regardless I think reversing the 09 AO final would have the greatest impact on his legacy. If anything, Fed was a little lucky in the 08 Wimby final the match even went that long with the rain in the third set and Nadal tightening up in the 4th set breaker. That match was well deserved from Nadal and it represented a natural changing of the guard. Doesn't detract from Fed's legacy much. 09 AO, however, while also a very well deserved victory, was a little more on his racquet and probably has the greatest negative impact on his legacy (if he wins that match the h2h or mentally weak brigade has no more leg to stand on).
But he lost what many regard the greatest match ever. Even though it probably isn't, still its regarded that way. If I were a Fed fannI would take Wimby 08 over AO 09 any day. Not to mention he would have won 6 Wimbys in a row which hasn't been done.The 07 final came down to 3 difficult FH winners followed by 3 aces for Federer. Nadal did not seem tired or injured to me in the 5th set, he was still running down everything down to the last point.
Regardless I think reversing the 09 AO final would have the greatest impact on his legacy. If anything, Fed was a little lucky in the 08 Wimby final the match even went that long with the rain in the third set and Nadal tightening up in the 4th set breaker. That match was well deserved from Nadal and it represented a natural changing of the guard. Doesn't detract from Fed's legacy much. 09 AO, however, while also a very well deserved victory, was a little more on his racquet and probably has the greatest negative impact on his legacy (if he wins that match the h2h or mentally weak brigade has no more leg to stand on).
well not for me being a huge Safin fan. Safin played gigantic power tennis, the likes of which have rarely been seen, in a 7 game span starting at 2-4 down in the third to turn that match.I agree with all that but I'd take an extra Wimbledon over an AO any day.
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Also AO 2005 for Hewitt would be another for me.
08 Wimby like I said was a natural progression. Nadal came close the last year, he matured, Federer was a little worse, and that's what happens. It hurt then, not as much now, he already had a (more convincing win) over prime/peak Nadal at Wimbledon. 09 AO though was the only time they faced at their primes at a HC slam and for Fed to lose in that manner against a tired Nadal (he didn't show it, but he was) was devastating. All credit to Nadal, he was clutch as hell, but Federer should not have gone down like that. And you could see after the match. That loss mentally scarred him for a solid 4 months. He was able to turn it around (thank you Mr. Soderling and Mr. Djokovic too), but the manner in which he lost that match and the tears afterward haunt me to this day. If he hadn't recovered and gotten to 15 that loss would have been 100% the reason why. He was an absolute train wreck till Madrid.But he lost what many regard the greatest match ever. Even though it probably isn't, still its regarded that way. If I were a Fed fannI would take Wimby 08 over AO 09 any day. Not to mention he would have won 6 Wimbys in a row which hasn't been done.