IG Instinct vs V1 Classic vs Becker Pro

Chyeaah said:
becker pro is too ugly for my liking the colours are just too eugh.

Let us know what you have decided on your BLX when you get a chance =D Im loving my pro open. I heard you were going to test the 100S from Yonex. Youll have to go at least 5-6 hours tweaking your strokes and getting used to to isometric head, which is great when you get used to it.
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I'm not going to try the Yonex 100S. Its just too light. I have discovered that I need a substantial swingweight (320-330) or it just doesn't work for me. I am going to go with either the DCPro or the BLX Pro Open. They both suit me just fine. I won another singles league match today with the Becker so I am 4-0 since picking it up. Hard for me to argue with that :-)
 
Chyeaah said:
becker pro is too ugly for my liking the colours are just too eugh.

Let us know what you have decided on your BLX when you get a chance =D Im loving my pro open. I heard you were going to test the 100S from Yonex. Youll have to go at least 5-6 hours tweaking your strokes and getting used to to isometric head, which is great when you get used to it.
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The DCP isn't that bad. Its just a plain blue paintjob. Not ugly IMO, but not an attractive racquet either. But a racquets cosmetics is very low on the priority list.
 
Chyeaah said:
becker pro is too ugly for my liking the colours are just too eugh.

Let us know what you have decided on your BLX when you get a chance =D Im loving my pro open. I heard you were going to test the 100S from Yonex. Youll have to go at least 5-6 hours tweaking your strokes and getting used to to isometric head, which is great when you get used to it.
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You're absolutely right; I can certainly serve aces and club FHs with sticks that aren't ugly but I can't get the ball over the net with a fugly stick!
 
JackB1 said:
I'm not going to try the Yonex 100S. Its just too light. I have discovered that I need a substantial swingweight (320-330) or it just doesn't work for me. I am going to go with either the DCPro or the BLX Pro Open. They both suit me just fine. I won another singles league match today with the Becker so I am 4-0 since picking it up. Hard for me to argue with that :-)
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IG instinct SW isn't that high and you seem to like it ??
 
JackB1 said:
I ultimately gave it up because it's too light and whippy.
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I think going by the specs yes that looks like the number of the beast - a little headlight but not much plow-through adds up to a whippiness, nevertheless some who've tried it reckon perhaps TW specs are a little out (as they are averages) and that it might feel solid despite.

I seem to recall that spped and penetration through the court are a result of mass and ball revolutions (per second). Thus while a light whippy racquet may not be able to satisfy the first element it certainly could the second.

Exploding bulk spins upon the ball comes from bat speed. Any top level club play I see regularly certainly shows bat speed as a crucial determinant.
 
BLX pro open is really light. On the frame of mine it says 7p HL and 299 grams unstrung, On the frame on my Yonex i think the balance is 33CM and 314 grams, ill check and edit this later. I dont know why the TW warehouse specs are different. I hit kinda flat with my 100S and dont find it that whippy and it is really stable for its weight. But the Pro Open is just a lovely stick, i think 20-30% of my school uses it, it overtook the puredrive fans, but around 40% of the pure drive fans have switched to the 100S.
 
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Chyeaah said:
BLX pro open is really light. On the frame of mine it says 7p HL and 299 grams unstrung, On the frame on my Yonex i think the balance is 33CM and 314 grams, ill check and edit this later. I dont know why the TW warehouse specs are different. I hit kinda flat with my 100S and dont find it that whippy and it is really stable for its weight. But the Pro Open is just a lovely stick, i think 20-30% of my school uses it, it overtook the puredrive fans, but around 40% of the pure drive fans have switched to the 100S.
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I added just 2 g's of lead at 12' and it doesn't feel too light at all. Has the same swingweight as my Becker (around 320) and substantial plowthru.
 
So now that you've been playing with the DC Pro a bit, can you share how arm/wrsit friendly of a racket it is.

It seems people say it's arm friendly for its class. But that's like saying, he's tall for a midget. Is it just arm friendly for its class, or is it arm friendly period? Thanks!
 
loosegroove said:
Is it really? I find that surprising.
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Most men are 5'8" at the shortest, but most women, are easily 5'4"-5'8". They really stand-out because most couples are almost the same height, always, and you don't see that in the USA. It's like that in NYC Chinatown and Flushing as well. Most young Koreans that I run into are over 5'10" and the women over 5'6". Everyone is eating more meat and more saturated fats.
 
loosegroove said:
So now that you've been playing with the DC Pro a bit, can you share how arm/wrsit friendly of a racket it is.

It seems people say it's arm friendly for its class. But that's like saying, he's tall for a midget. Is it just arm friendly for its class, or is it arm friendly period? Thanks!
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It feels firm and slightly soft. Sure there are more arm friendly racquets out there but I think the DC Pro is above average in that respect.
 
Dude you change rackets every other month lol its god to hear your take on the rackets you try thanks jackb1
 
loosegroove said:
Ha! I'm actually 100% Asian, that's the only reason I said that. Though I realized afterward that TM is as well, isn't he?
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Oh, are one of those that think if you are of a certain race/culture that only you can generalize, stereotype, etc. that race/culture?
TennisMaverick said:
Yep...but you must know that the average height for men in China is the same as the USA, and Chinese women are taller than the USA average.
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loosegroove said:
Is it really? I find that surprising.
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No, it really isn't. Walking around Chinatown in NYC does not pass for scientific study.
 
TennisMaverick said:
Yep...but you must know that the average height for men in China is the same as the USA, and Chinese women are taller than the USA average.
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Uhhm....no. You are wrong again oh Volkl Master.

See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

US Male avg = 5 ft 10, women= 5 ft 5

Chinese male = 5 ft 7, women = 5 ft 2

So you are incorrect on both counts I am sorry to say.
Not sure where you are getting your info from? The funny thing
is that some people believe you without questioning your claims.

And now you are claiming people are getting taller from eating more meat and saturated fats?
Where do you get this stuff from Mav or were you just a little bored today :-)
 
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JackB1 said:
Uhhm....no. You are wrong again oh Volkl Master.

See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

US Male avg = 5 ft 10, women= 5 ft 5

Chinese male = 5 ft 7, women = 5 ft 2

So you are incorrect on both counts I am sorry to say.
Not sure where you are getting your info from? The funny thing
is that some people believe you without questioning your claims.

And now you are claiming people are getting taller from eating more meat and saturated fats?
Where do you get this stuff from Mav or were you just a little bored today :-)
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Well, he's right about one thing - a better diet certainly helps people become taller. I currently live in Taiwan and the average male height here has increased over 3"(since 1981) because of the richer diet. However, they're also become fatter too like the typical American.
 
nickarnold2000 said:
Well, he's right about one thing - a better diet certainly helps people become taller. I currently live in Taiwan and the average male height here has increased over 3"(since 1981) because of the richer diet. However, they're also become fatter too like the typical American.
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The same thing is happening in China. Each generation is taller than the last, and the size of the people in places in Beijing/Shanghai/etc is much larger than the average of people in the country-side. I lived in a village men there were regularly 5'5"-5'6" and 100-120lbs. In Beijing the average would be closer to 5'8" and 140-150lbs. I'm 5'10" 210lbs and I can rarely find clothes that fit me (never in the villages, and only sometimes in Beijing), besides T-shirts and sometimes shoes.
 
JackB1 said:
Uhhm....no. You are wrong again oh Volkl Master.

See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height

US Male avg = 5 ft 10, women= 5 ft 5

Chinese male = 5 ft 7, women = 5 ft 2

So you are incorrect on both counts I am sorry to say.
Not sure where you are getting your info from? The funny thing
is that some people believe you without questioning your claims.

And now you are claiming people are getting taller from eating more meat and saturated fats?
Where do you get this stuff from Mav or were you just a little bored today :-)
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Jack....citing Wikipedia....seriously? Profs won't even let students use Wiki in community college in their papers, unless, they just don't care about their students. Now I've lost a lot of respect....come-on now!
 
TennisMaverick said:
Jack....citing Wikipedia....seriously? Profs won't even let students use Wiki in community college in their papers, unless, they just don't care about their students. Now I've lost a lot of respect....come-on now!
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No, the "Profs" would rather you base your "facts" on what you observed while walking down Canal St. Sunday afternoon.

So when are you going to make a decision, Jack? BBDCP or BLXPO? Have you use the previous Pro Opens before? They struck me as a little hollow feeling. Not so solid. Haven't tried the BLX, though.
 
dParis said:
Walking around Chinatown in NYC does not pass for scientific study.
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Make no mistake...NYC Chinatown is very, very, diverse. The Chinese and Latino immigrant population has skyrocketed in NYC since 2000, and every part of the East Coast and inland provinces of China with major cities are all very well represented. There are also tons of peasants from all over, working here as well, in all kinds of entrepreneurial capacities--it's no longer just the old Cantonese sweat shops and restaurants. If you could read Chinese, the business and family associations on storefronts and in inside office buildings is country-wide. Now-a-days, sightseers from China always remark on how much Chinatown resembles China. Li Na was written up saying that, and she was pleasantly surprised to find many from Wuhan here as well. Everyone speaks multiple dialects to do business...it's insane. Kids who came here at five, can speak 3-4 dialects as teens because they've been working in their parents business since they were very little. The only difference here in this little PRC microcosm in NYC, is that the people are healthier than they would be in China. NYC food and water is very clean, and it is very telling in people's appearance. As bad as NYC air can be, it's nothing like Beijing or Hong Kong, which is like 3X LA in the summer, when the smog is crazy bad.

And we're only on Canal St. to get somewhere. Canal St. is for tourists.
 
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TennisMaverick said:
Jack....citing Wikipedia....seriously? Profs won't even let students use Wiki in community college in their papers, unless, they just don't care about their students. Now I've lost a lot of respect....come-on now!
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Wikipedia is fine as long as the referenced source of the data is accurate.
At least I had a source.
 
dParis said:
No, the "Profs" would rather you base your "facts" on what you observed while walking down Canal St. Sunday afternoon.

So when are you going to make a decision, Jack? BBDCP or BLXPO? Have you use the previous Pro Opens before? They struck me as a little hollow feeling. Not so solid. Haven't tried the BLX, though.
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The BLX feels more solid than prev models. I have only been using the DCP for 1 week so I am in no rush to decide, but so far the DCP is working very well for me and the Wilson's are just gathering dust at the moment.
 
just to update after 3 weeks....

The DC Pro has beaten out the BLX Open! To be honest, I cannot find any fault with the DC Pro at all. It does everything I need it to....serves great, powerful groundstrokes without being too powerful...punch volleys, slices and spinny shots are all incredible. And it has touch and feel too. It can accommodate any type of game i bring to the table. Can't believe this stick isn't more popular? Everyone who I let it never says a bad thing about it.

Anyway....it's time to look for a new avatar :)

Edit: The BLX Pro Open is also a VERY SOLID stick and I could easily make it my main stick, but the DCP just edges it out in serves and groundies. But I really
like it as well. The BLX Pro Open should be on every 3.5-4.5 players short list of demos to try.
 
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While your at it. Practice more and waste less money on racquets as you are your weakest link rather than the equipment.

Just savin you cash.
 
JackB1 said:
just to update after 3 weeks....

The DC Pro has beaten out the BLX Open! To be honest, I cannot find any fault with the DC Pro at all. It doesn't everything I need it to....serves great, powerful groundstrokes without being too powerful...punch volleys, slices and spinny shots are all incredible. And it has touch and feel too. It can accommodate any type of game i bring to the table. Can't believe this stick isn't more popular? Everyone who I let it never says a bad thing about it.

Anyway....it's time to look for a new avatar :)
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Glad you have found your new stick Jack but beware there are some testing times coming up for rackoholics in the next couple of months.
 
CDestroyer said:
While your at it. Practice more and waste less money on racquets as you are your weakest link rather than the equipment.

Just savin you cash.
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What makes u think I don't practice? Plus, I don't waste any money on racquets since I only buy with money from sold racquets. 2 DC Pro's cost me $70 ea. I think I can handle that with my salary :)

It's weird how people assume if u try different racquets you also aren't practicing or taking lessons. I don't see how one relates to the other.
FWIW, I have never played better since switching to the DC Pro and I plan on staying with them for a good while now.
 
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BigM said:
Glad you have found your new stick Jack but beware there are some testing times coming up for rackoholics in the next couple of months.
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I never said I would stop playtesting :)

But I plan on using the DC Pro as my #1 main stick for at least the next 6 months. Since I switched to it, my game has definitely gotten to a slightly higher level. 5 month's ago my winning % in 3.5 league singles was around 30% and in the past 6 weeks, it's been at 70%. Only the very best players are beating me now and those are usually 6-4 type sets.
 
JackB1 said:
I cannot find any fault with the DC Pro at all. It doesn't everything I need it to....serves great, powerful groundstrokes without being too powerful...punch volleys, slices and spinny shots are all incredible. And it has touch and feel too. It can accommodate any type of game i bring to the table. Can't believe this stick isn't more popular? Everyone who I let it never says a bad thing about it.
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"It doesn't everything I need it to....serves great, powerful groundstrokes without being too powerful...punch volleys, slices and spinny shots are all incredible. And it has touch and feel too. It can accommodate any type of game i bring to the table"!

It's a BB/Volkl....the Sportster is a CRAZY STUPID solid stick!
 
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JackB1 said:
just to update after 3 weeks....

The DC Pro has beaten out the BLX Open! To be honest, I cannot find any fault with the DC Pro at all. It doesn't everything I need it to....serves great, powerful groundstrokes without being too powerful...punch volleys, slices and spinny shots are all incredible. And it has touch and feel too. It can accommodate any type of game i bring to the table. Can't believe this stick isn't more popular? Everyone who I let it never says a bad thing about it.

Anyway....it's time to look for a new avatar :)

Edit: The BLX Pro Open is also a VERY SOLID stick and I could easily make it my main stick, but the DCP just edges it out in serves and groundies. But I really
like it as well. The BLX Pro Open should be on every 3.5-4.5 players short list of demos to try.
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Congrats, Jack. While not quite a fit for my game, I had fun playing with the DCP. The things it does well, it does VERY well. When putting together a racquet's power, spin, forgiveness and serving aspects, I'm not sure there are any better than the DC Pro.
 
dParis said:
Congrats, Jack. While not quite a fit for my game, I had fun playing with the DCP. The things it does well, it does VERY well. When putting together a racquet's power, spin, forgiveness and serving aspects, I'm not sure there are any better than the DC Pro.
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totally agree...especially about serving. I am much more confident stepping up to serve now. The DCP is like a firmer feeling, more forgiving London. I love it when my opponent thinks the ball is sailing long and stands there watching as it dips down at the last second and catches the line :-)
 
JackB1 said:
totally agree...especially about serving. I am much more confident stepping up to serve now. The DCP is like a firmer feeling, more forgiving London. I love it when my opponent thinks the ball is sailing long and stands there watching as it dips down at the last second and catches the line :-)
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Jack....you had a problem controlling flat shots with the London. How did you solve that with the DC Pro, or, do to its design/function, you just don't hit flat?
 
TennisMaverick said:
Jack....you had a problem controlling flat shots with the London. How did you solve that with the DC Pro, or, do to its design/function, you just don't hit flat?
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Incorrect. Once I found the right tension and strings for the London, I rarely had any control problems with it. I just had it initially strung too low and that produced too much trampoline effect. The DCP is about the same power, but for some reason no issues at all yet. I did have a demo with full multi that was a little loose and that was a bit harder to control. The setup I have now is working well (see sig.). I want to try poly mains since most people seem to think the DCP is designed for that. I am really enjoying this stick. Seems like it was custom made for me. I haven't felt this comfortable with a racquet in a long time.
 
JackB1 said:
What makes u think I don't practice? Plus, I don't waste any money on racquets since I only buy with money from sold racquets. 2 DC Pro's cost me $70 ea. I think I can handle that with my salary :)

It's weird how people assume if u try different racquets you also aren't practicing or taking lessons. I don't see how one relates to the other.
FWIW, I have never played better since switching to the DC Pro and I plan on staying with them for a good while now.
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I have been trying racquets a lot in the last year to 18 months,but to be fair,I have a solid 20 years of playing tournaments,training and coaching behind me.I think I earned the right to try new things after learning what DOES work for me.There is nothing with testing as long as you have a reference point and time to practice.
 
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