At high speeds vision blur kicks in.
Iga's double bounce: I wouldn't have conceded it neither. Would you??
- Thread starter pabletion
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How do you know??
Connor35
Professional
Yes. I am talking about a world class athletes -- TWO -- with slams.
Both Rennae and Caro last night said "Iga probably couldn't tell."
And I believe them. There are times you can tell.
And there are times we can't tell.
And there are times we THINK we can tell, and we're probably wrong.
Because it happens to me at low speeds
ghostofMecir
Legend
When it’s obvious as this one, you can.
Tennfan123
Legend
In a match I was cruising to a win, yes.
5-5 in the final set vs Sabs in the final. Nah.
5-5 in the final set vs Sabs in the final. Nah.
atatu
Legend
In one post you say that it didn't matter because Emma wasn't going to win anyway. In this post you're making it sound like that one point could make all the difference in making the slam SF and earning an extra $200,000 so which is it ?
ghostofMecir
Legend
Sometimes you can’t tell, but from the replay and how far out it was in front of her, I find it very, very, very hard to believe that you didn’t know. Now, I will say this in the age of video replay that the onus is not on the player anymore as much as it used to be, but still it’s something that’s in green from a very young age about calling the double bounce, and in general being honest, since you’re going to be calling your own mind for most of your life before playing with lines people
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
I’m saying I’d want to see a replay before I concede a point that could play a factor in whether or not I make a slam SF and earn an extra $200,000. Considering several former players have said Iga likely didn’t know it was a double bounce, then why would she concede the point and jeopardise her chance without knowing 100%?
Having watched the match, she was in control and likely to win, but I’ve seen far bigger chokes and meltdowns than being up 6-1 2-2 and giving up a point only to find out it was a mistake.
This is solely on the current rules and Asderaki-Moore for not seeing the double bounce. It’s not Swiatek’s fault. Call her out for the flailing arms but this one, nah.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Again, the replay. The replay. Real life isn’t a replay, she was running around that court. She doesn’t watch the replay a billion times like you and I get. She didn’t see it at all, I believe she felt the ball leave her racket and watched it go over and continues the point.
Navarro didn’t stop the point (unlike Sonego 3 hours later), she didn’t ask Swiatek to concede. She kept playing. This is not on Iga.
Better_Call_Raul
Legend
A player should never concede a point. Kindly allow the chair to review the video and make the call.
And a player should not forfeit the right to request a review simply because she did immediately stop while in the heat of battle. Absurd. That is the stupidest rule ever!
A player should be allowed to request a review even after playing out the point. Amazing that this basic common sense has to even be explained.
Who are the dunderheads running the WTA?
So what I'm learning here is that Federer is not even 4.5 player. Since he did not know that the ball bounced twice.......
TennisTurkey
Rookie
It seems strange that in a tournament where line calls are automated, players are supposed to make a split second decision to stop playing in the heat of battle during a point (at the risk of losing the point) to challenge not up calls.
Racquet_smash
Hall of Fame
Horrendous sportsmanship, she's not new to it at all.
That's actually the source of the problem. When line calls were not automated players had to make split second decisions to stop playing (at the risk of losing the point) to challenge line calls. Automation has removed that dilemma. The not up call remains a call based on the human eye, and the protocol around it remains the same.
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Why?
Could be this: https://www.instagram.com/stefanie.carpentier/reel/DFKuLsVAygc/?hl=en
Could be her uneducated involvement in the politics
Could be doping
Could be her unlikable personality
Or it could be the double-bounce situation that is completely clear to the player. I blame it on the ref as these days their only job is situations like these, calling the score and busting players for time violations... This happened right in front of the ref's chair. We all disliked the Draper's situation (vs. FAA?) not long ago -- this one is identical and Iga knew it...
tennis24x7
Hall of Fame
It was not even the final and it was not some player like Sabs who she would most definitely lose. Also Swiatek is still young, karma always come back.
pabletion
Hall of Fame
Precisely on point. Ref should definitely review it. Theres no automated call, and it can change the outcome of a match.
This was not the case, but it will happen eventually. Why wait???
It was a TERRIBLE call. But if its too close to see in real time, for Gods sake, just review it in slo-mo!
To review it in slow mo would have required the umpire to break the rules. The umpire doesn't make the tournament playing conditions but they have to abide by them. By all means allow a replay, but it's up to tournament organisers to do that in the tournament playing conditions, not the umpire to do it in violation of the playing conditions in the moment.
T&M Returns
Rookie
Of course you can tell. You can tell by the way the ball moves and the way it feels on the racquet. She knew, she just left it up to the umpire to make the call.
