I'm not watching WTA tennis any more

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
I'm tired of low quality crappy WTA tennis. some of them cant even be in good enough shape to go 2 sets. What is really alarming is that many of them cant even direct their serves to the best side of the court for them...the serve is something they can most easily practice, but yet their serves routinely bounce half way back in the service box and they cant hit their spots <let alone direct their 2nd serves to the backhand side>, or they have the yips, or they scream at the top of their lungs unecessarily which i dont find very appealing. professionals??
Then you have the fashion Divas..Serena who designed her outfit but had to rip her bow off because it was just hanging there. She was also wearing what old people used to call a Moo-Moo dress. Then you have Venus who has her own shoes which she was slipping in and her clothes looked a few sizes to small and she kept pulling her butt cheek pants out of her butt worse than Nadal.....what elegance! what fashion!
Then you have the dysfunctional tennis father syndrome on Tour..tennis Dads who bail on their kids when they are most needed. no wonder why these kids are a mess
Than you have Serena who sez her opponent won because she hit lucky shots..it goes on and on....it's not worth my time to watch.
I'm not unhappy..i know this is a diatribe///i am actuallly happy I finally woke up enough not to watch low caliber stuff like this.
I fully expect to be attacked for making this post..i really dont care, but i'm not attacking any of you here//i'm merely making a general observation
 
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drake

Semi-Pro
Well I believe anyone that is a fan of competitive tennis would have to agree with you. Have you seen junior and womans' college tennis? I'm sorry to say it's only going to get worse. The no-strategy mindless bashing is an epidemic in the womans' game (discounting Henin). If you look at most of the WTA, they're just little girls with ball smacking talent that have grown up with coaches that are afraid to change their tactics for fear of what got them there. I just watch these days mostly for eye-candy - they left me no choice.
 

snoopy

Professional
To me the only women worth watching are Henin, Peer, and Jankovic. Henin has the best game but she is mentally weak and can choke. Peer and Jankovic don't have Henin's skill and variety but they are good competitors with pretty good abilities.
 

AndrewD

Legend
To me the only women worth watching are Henin, Peer, and Jankovic. Henin has the best game but she is mentally weak and can choke. Peer and Jankovic don't have Henin's skill and variety but they are good competitors with pretty good abilities.

Henin isn't mentally weak, not in the slightest. You simply can't come from her background and be giving away so much physical size and strength to 99% of your opponents and still win if you are mentally weak. On the contrary, what she's achieved has come about due to extreme mental toughness. Last year's effort was testament to that. Even while struggling through the last stages of a dying marriage and coming to grips with what that would mean personally, she still managed to get to the final of all 4 majors. You know if it had been Hingis, the Williams sisters, Davenport, Peer, Jankovic etc, etc they wouldn't have played the events, let alone done so well in them. You also know that certain of those players would have had a litany of excuses - Henin had a perfect one but wouldn't use it.
 

krz

Professional
I kinda agree. The mindless bashing aside from a few (Henin, Mauresmo) gets boring.

The screaming yea that gets annoying.

What gets me the most is just the blatant disrespect for each other.

You don't see relationships like Roddick-Fed, or Nadal-Fed where you know full well no matter what they respect each other.

Or you never see matches ending like Stepanek and Djokovic where one climbes over the net and congratulates the other for a great match the way he did.

Even just clapping for the other opponent you never see any of that.
 

West Coast Ace

G.O.A.T.
I'm tired of low quality crappy WTA tennis...
It is pretty sad.

Henin isn't mentally weak, not in the slightest. You simply can't come from her background and be giving away so much physical size and strength to 99% of your opponents and still win if you are mentally weak.
Well said. And you left out the fact that her mom died when she was 12. She's a survivor.

Yeah right, you volley so much better.
It's not about us - I doubt anyone who's ever posted on this board has had the coaching and access to facilities the pros have. Henin is normally a pretty decent volleyer - today she hit many right back to Venus and got passed. But in general most of the ladies only come to net to shake hands. Hingis, Venus and a few of the doubles players have some volleying skills - the rest of the WTA plays the same game: serve, huge FH, 2nd handed BH = boring. Sorry if the truth hurts.
 

Purostaff

Banned
I just watch Henin (in big matches) and other hot female players bounce around the court. That's how I've been watching WTA.
 

ChiefAce

Semi-Pro
I'll pretty much only watch when Henin is playing, the rest of the WTA is pretty much mindless bashing. Thank god for the ATP.
 
Womens Tennis is basicly crap.
Like said before literally nobody on the WTA has a deent serve.
Athletic ? i don't even want to mention that........

I totally agree with what the infamous CARSTEN BRAASCH once said:
" Even male player number 1000 can easily beat any female top 5 player in the world .."

Said and crushed both Willimas sisters 6:1 on a practicing court during the US Open . I guess it was 1997 and Braasch was somewhere around ranking 300 there.

Besides that it is surprising that TV channels like EUROSPORT place their focus on boring WTA Tennis. Last year i was not even able to watch the ATP Masters in most of the european countries. That is a freaking shame!!!!
 

daddy

Legend
I agree with tht OP, this is a ****. Same pay and tennis of 1/10th of mens tennis quality. GO fight about feminists right, its just not good for anyone to do this, its bull my friends. They are for pity not watching, of course complared to men.
 

EricW

Professional
I hate womens tennis. The only matches i'll watch are the 4 GS finals of the year, and possibly a match that Henin is playing in.
 

diegaa

Hall of Fame
Im not that extreme like the OP, but I do agree WTA is way below the ATP level. Some matches arent worthy of my attention.
 

Red Velvet

New User
Well, at least watch Anna Chakvetadze and Camille Pin.
Even when they play badly (which is equal to say all the time...;) ), I cannot get bored and keep watching them...
 

jelle v

Hall of Fame
I totally agree with the OP.

Only thing worth watching are semifinals and further of the Grand Slams. I think I actually prefer almost (maybe 99%) any men's match over a women's match.
 

Captain

New User
On a scale of 1-10, at present the men's game ranks 8 & the women's 3.
It is a disgrace that with such a lack of quality this clearly much inferior tennis is rewarded with equal pay. There is no variety, just bashing from end to end and the sevices are pathetic. I watch, because I would love to be proved wrong, but at present the guys should revolt over the situation.
 
Than you have Serena who sez her opponent won because she hit lucky shots..it goes on and on....it's not worth my time to watch.

Mojo,

Amen on that one. It really irked my when Serena made such an obviously condescending statement. Frankly I think it's a general reflection of her overall slipping grip concerning the reality of the state of her game and ability to compete for Grand Slam titles without a serious commitment to training. Sad indeed.

CC
 
Hey Mojo,

Another thought/question............

I know you have (modestly) described yourself as a 'hitting mule' for WTA'er's. Is it accurate to say that you have also coached some top level juniors or even WTA level players?

I ask this question because as you know I am good friends with a top level DI women's coach and hit regularly with a gal who was top 25. I have talked a good bit with them both about this issue of 'uni-dimensional play' on the women's tour, but would be curious as to your opinion on WHY so few women 'mix it up'? Many are obviously good athletes, have decent hands, and as you point out, could easily practice and improve their serves. So why the baseline-hugging fetish?

I ask these questions in part because I would love to see the quality and variety improve as well.

Best,

CC
 

Fearsome Forehand

Professional
I agree somewhat but I find the histrionics good for a laugh.

I would never pay to see a WTA match, but I would pay to see a ATP match.
 
i remember a while back on TV there was a general discussion with P Mac and Darren Cahill and they were discussing about the next step in the evolution of womens tennis and they both were suggesting that women will try to with a lot more top spin in coming years

I believe if the women can learn to hit with better top spin and not flat like all the women do these days ( except for Henin some times and Mauresmo) then they can construct better points, find more angles hit with more margin and not make as many unforced errs and consequently as the court opens up more play at the net.

Look at how the points are much better on atp tour with all the top spin that they hit with these days

Until then, if the style of play continues like it is now i dont see how womens tennis can survive. The quality is appalling.

i have not watched a womens match in its entirety since steffi left
 

NamRanger

G.O.A.T.
Hey Mojo,

Another thought/question............

I know you have (modestly) described yourself as a 'hitting mule' for WTA'er's. Is it accurate to say that you have also coached some top level juniors or even WTA level players?

I ask this question because as you know I am good friends with a top level DI women's coach and hit regularly with a gal who was top 25. I have talked a good bit with them both about this issue of 'uni-dimensional play' on the women's tour, but would be curious as to your opinion on WHY so few women 'mix it up'? Many are obviously good athletes, have decent hands, and as you point out, could easily practice and improve their serves. So why the baseline-hugging fetish?

I ask these questions in part because I would love to see the quality and variety improve as well.

Best,

CC



Because for awhile Venus and (especially) Serena DOMINATED the tour with ease because of their one dimensional game. Then Sharapova came up and then all the white girls thought they could do it too. Henin in 2003 came around and restored order thank goodness.
 

slammer

New User
I miss Navotna, Navratilova and Evert. These women knows how to use the whole court and not just the baseline!

I wish Hingis would clean up her act and start mending and working out. At least try to regain her old form and maybe show some of these girls how to play the game. ;)

Henin, Venus and Chakvetadze are some of the few who does decent volleys and dropshots yet we, the expert viewers ;), still consider them crappy in that department. I'm almost afraid to ask how we would then classify Sharapova's awkward attempt at the net?
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
I miss Navotna, Navratilova and Evert. These women knows how to use the whole court and not just the baseline!

I wish Hingis would clean up her act and start mending and working out. At least try to regain her old form and maybe show some of these girls how to play the game. ;)

Henin, Venus and Chakvetadze are some of the few who does decent volleys and dropshots yet we, the expert viewers ;), still consider them crappy in that department. I'm almost afraid to ask how we would then classify Sharapova's awkward attempt at the net?

I would like to clarify my post to include Henin and Mauresmo as the two I enjoy watching. as to Hingis, I believe she now gets hit off the court by these girls from the backcourt so any type of climb back to the top seems very unlikely
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Than you have Serena who sez her opponent won because she hit lucky shots..

And now Oracene claims Venus has been anaemic since Wimbledon and felt the "ground move under her feet" sometimes when playing (guess even when Serena was not practising elsewhere ...)

So,

Serena->pregnant
Venus->anaemic
 

BluBarry

Semi-Pro
NoBad This Topic has been discussed several times in the past few years and it should come to no surprise that the general consensus what tend to agree the WTA is lacking depth. It always has been this way so to speak. Even during the Navratilova- Evert Era and then onto the Graf-Seles Era, the ladies outside of the Top 10 fail to be impressive on the court. When you take someone like Steffi Graf, who would win matches in less than an hour and win the French Open Singles Title 6-0 6-0, well that should tell you something.

There are many facets to this phenomena then needs to be addressed. Actually I would say, the ladies with Ranking below the Top 10 are better today than at any other time in recent history. But true, it's hard to watch a match in the early rounds and not feel you could beat these girls easily. Many people here will try to tell you, that's not possible but the truth is, it is factual. I, personally hit with a young lady in Newport Beach, Ca. who was at that time Ranked 80 in the World. I would drill certain combinations of shots to her and when I picked up the pace, she would have a hard time handling it.

Then you look at the Bollettieri Academy and consider what they charge for admission for the purpose of building Stars and to actually count the number of serious Players that have come from that, you start to wonder if Americans will no longer hold the reigns of Tennis Titles as in the past.

We have Andy Roddick, James Blake, Robbie Ginepri, Donald Young on the men's side and it appears Wimbledon & the USO are the only majors Andy is interested in. James, just doesn't have a Champions' heart, Robbie lacks commitment in what it takes to break through and now Donald Young seems to want it and for those a little older like myself, he reminds me of Bryan Shelton of the early to mid 80's. I just hope for Donald, he is getting good Coaching that's not filling his head up too much with dreams of being #1 soon because once he sees that's not going to happen, it may burn him out.

On the Women's Side, Venus & Serena seem to hold all the cards and it's amazing how they were unquestionably the very best Women's Tennis had to offer but their subsequent layoff(s) hurt them more than they realized. With both losing, it will be interesting to see which if not both are will to put in the time to come back next year and compete for the Title.

Serena claims she can run for hours, will I'd like to see that because I don't believe a word of that to be honest and the fire she once displayed on the Court is no longer there. All that Serena has is what was previously referred to as a bashing game. She will always win early matches with that but once she faces a few that can handle her power, that's it for her.

Lastly I will say, her comment about Justine's Lucky shots were completely uncalled for and all I can say about that is, I think we all would like to have her ability to make those types of lucky shots. Maybe that's what Roddick needs when he plays Federer, 'Lucky Shots'.

Iwill go out on a limb and say this, Andy Roddick is not a Champion Tennis Player. He doesn't have the heart of a Champion. He has a very good serve and is much better from the baseline than he use to be but still, trying to beat Federer from the baseline is like him trying to beat Agassi from the baseline, it ain't gonna happen. And even with his tremendous serve, Federer still amounts more aces than he does, so Andy still has work to do.

When you watch Women's Tennis, check out the leg shots because quality tennis isn't something you're gonna get which is why I don't see the point of equal prize money for the WTA vs the ATP. (sorry)
 

jelle v

Hall of Fame
I miss Navotna, Navratilova and Evert. These women knows how to use the whole court and not just the baseline!

I wish Hingis would clean up her act and start mending and working out. At least try to regain her old form and maybe show some of these girls how to play the game. ;)

Henin, Venus and Chakvetadze are some of the few who does decent volleys and dropshots yet we, the expert viewers ;), still consider them crappy in that department. I'm almost afraid to ask how we would then classify Sharapova's awkward attempt at the net?

Sharapova's attempts at the net, when she actually hits a volley, are pathetic. Dropvolleys land very deep, normal volleys have no angles etc. etc. But then again, she probably know that because she usually hits a drive-volley like most women do. Not a problem at all, but many times you see women hitting a drive volley when it's totally inappropriate (spelling?), like Venus last night, when Henin lobbed her on the backhandside, Venus actually tried to hit a twohanded overhead backhand drivevolley.. I mean, come on. When you are a pro you must be able to hit a backhand volley, shouldn't you?
 

NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
Hey Mojo,

Another thought/question............

I know you have (modestly) described yourself as a 'hitting mule' for WTA'er's. Is it accurate to say that you have also coached some top level juniors or even WTA level players?

I ask this question because as you know I am good friends with a top level DI women's coach and hit regularly with a gal who was top 25. I have talked a good bit with them both about this issue of 'uni-dimensional play' on the women's tour, but would be curious as to your opinion on WHY so few women 'mix it up'? Many are obviously good athletes, have decent hands, and as you point out, could easily practice and improve their serves. So why the baseline-hugging fetish?

I ask these questions in part because I would love to see the quality and variety improve as well.

Best,

CC

Craig, I've never coached any WTAers and my experience as hitting mule with them have been few, but pretty revealing and put things into perspective.
From the backcourt, I was pretty useless , as these girls hit so hard they could hit right through me if i was on the run..and consistently deep. i'm not exactly a kid though anymore and that has something to do with it, so I was told to go to my corner and hit groundies back from there and I could keep up w. the pace that way if the ball was hit to me
In the transition game, at net, on the serve, and service return is where I could more than hold my own. Perhaps the answer is as simple as that...why try and develop more aspects to your game, when you can get by fine just by clubbing the ball from the backcourt,,,that's the quickest path to sucess as hitting forehands and backhands are the easiest strokes to learn. I think these girls get on the fast track, play lots of events, work really hard on their conditioning, and that leaves little time to work on improving aspects of their games. Also, on tour, they cant afford to rework strokes very much as that often makes them perform less well and they lose points they are defending and such and it doesnt take long for their ranking to plummet..thats why they cant afford to change racquets much either as if it takes them 6 months to adjust to something new, thats an eternity on tour. i think all of this is true to a lesser degree on the mens tours altho they certainly serve and return much better relatively speaking.
The other info I can share which is of value comes from a friend of mine who is a tour trainer on both tours. he's biased of course, but I tend to agree with him that his role may be more important as fitness trainer than the role of a coach, and that has been evidenced several times from the fact that the players he has coached seem to win more as a result of his working with them. tennis really has turned into more of a fitness grind out there more so than something athletic. it used to be the other way..points were shorter, lots more ue's, lots higher risk tennis, therefore the emphasis was placed much more on athletic shotmaking rather than conditioning or was at least equally shared a la harry Hopman and others.
I really dont have finite answers, and I think it must be a combination of several things which has alloowed the game to get to this state....the tennis powers have done a really bad job at controlling pro level tennis I think, with the gear and such.
Sorry you asked? ;) what are you hearing from them?
 
Craig, I've never coached any WTAers and my experience as hitting mule with them have been few, but pretty revealing and put things into perspective.
From the backcourt, I was pretty useless , as these girls hit so hard they could hit right through me if i was on the run..and consistently deep. i'm not exactly a kid though anymore and that has something to do with it, so I was told to go to my corner and hit groundies back from there and I could keep up w. the pace that way if the ball was hit to me
In the transition game, at net, on the serve, and service return is where I could more than hold my own. Perhaps the answer is as simple as that...why try and develop more aspects to your game, when you can get by fine just by clubbing the ball from the backcourt,,,that's the quickest path to sucess as hitting forehands and backhands are the easiest strokes to learn. I think these girls get on the fast track, play lots of events, work really hard on their conditioning, and that leaves little time to work on improving aspects of their games. Also, on tour, they cant afford to rework strokes very much as that often makes them perform less well and they lose points they are defending and such and it doesnt take long for their ranking to plummet..thats why they cant afford to change racquets much either as if it takes them 6 months to adjust to something new, thats an eternity on tour. i think all of this is true to a lesser degree on the mens tours altho they certainly serve and return much better relatively speaking.
The other info I can share which is of value comes from a friend of mine who is a tour trainer on both tours. he's biased of course, but I tend to agree with him that his role may be more important as fitness trainer than the role of a coach, and that has been evidenced several times from the fact that the players he has coached seem to win more as a result of his working with them. tennis really has turned into more of a fitness grind out there more so than something athletic. it used to be the other way..points were shorter, lots more ue's, lots higher risk tennis, therefore the emphasis was placed much more on athletic shotmaking rather than conditioning or was at least equally shared a la harry Hopman and others.
I really dont have finite answers, and I think it must be a combination of several things which has alloowed the game to get to this state....the tennis powers have done a really bad job at controlling pro level tennis I think, with the gear and such.
Sorry you asked? ;) what are you hearing from them?

Actually glad I asked, and they agree with you (at least for the most part). ;)

I watch my friend try to coax his players into learning to use slice, vary the height and spin of their shots, and end the point at the net when the opportunity presents itself. Some learn to do so and they are the ones who tend to excel the most. They are NOT necessarily the best athletes, either. I say this because the ability to learn this skill is in my opinion a function too of mental flexibility, and for the most part such flexibility in thinking tends to come later in life and is not rewarded in a sport like women's tennis where a player's best results tend to come early in their lives (even earlier for the women than the men).

Best,

CC
 
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NoBadMojo

G.O.A.T.
NoBad
When you watch Women's Tennis, check out the leg shots because quality tennis isn't something you're gonna get which is why I don't see the point of equal prize money for the WTA vs the ATP. (sorry)

Nice post and I agree with everything except i think that while there used to be less depth in the game, there was lots more variety, which is also true on the mens side. personally I'd rather watch variety then to sit there and watch where most of the players are interchangeable as you get the same games coming from almost all of them, and I find that pretty boring to watch

Sharapova's attempts at the net, when she actually hits a volley, are pathetic. Dropvolleys land very deep, normal volleys have no angles etc. etc. But then again, she probably know that because she usually hits a drive-volley like most women do. Not a problem at all, but many times you see women hitting a drive volley when it's totally inappropriate (spelling?), like Venus last night, when Henin lobbed her on the backhandside, Venus actually tried to hit a twohanded overhead backhand drivevolley.. I mean, come on. When you are a pro you must be able to hit a backhand volley, shouldn't you?

She also doesnt seem to be able to hit a one handed sliced backhand <Sharapova>. I think I've seen her used it maybe twice. cant remember about Venus but seems to me she doesnt use a shot like that much at all either..it's a mainstay shot and they dont have it! Sharapova switches her racquet to her left hand instead when she is pulled out wide...lol

Actually glad I asked, and they agree with you (at least for the most part). ;)

I watch my friend try to coax his players into learning to use slice, vary the height and spin of their shots, and end the point at the net when the opportunity presents itself. Some learn to do so and they are the ones who tend to excel the most. They are NOT necessarily the best athletes, either. I say this because the ability to learn this skill is in my opinion a function too of mental flexibility, and for the most part such flexibility in thinking tends to come later in life and is not rewarded in a sport like women's tennis where a player's best results tend to come early in their lives (even earlier for the women than the men).

Best,

CC

good point. see my point above about Sharapova and no sliced backhand. If she can be the 'best in the world' with a basic shot missing, and can win matches and maybe events with serious service yips, that sure sets precedence for others to follow in her footsteps
 

LES

Semi-Pro
Here's a suggestion for you guys: don't watch.

Do you think Sharapova or Venus Williams cares about your opinions? Do you think they made millions and have won slams because they're playing the wrong style of tennis?

You guys crack me up. Do you guys actually think you know how to produce champions? Do you guys think that there's something revolutionary about volleying, or backhand slices or any other shots that these women or their coaches don't already know about?

If only Sharapova had gotten coaching from TW forum posters instead of Bollieteri. What the hell was she thinking?
 
Here's a suggestion for you guys: don't watch.

Do you think Sharapova or Venus Williams cares about your opinions? Do you think they made millions and have won slams because they're playing the wrong style of tennis?

You guys crack me up. Do you guys actually think you know how to produce champions? Do you guys think that there's something revolutionary about volleying, or backhand slices or any other shots that these women or their coaches don't already know about?

If only Sharapova had gotten coaching from TW forum posters instead of Bollieteri. What the hell was she thinking?

If you read my post above you'd know that I enjoy women's tennis and would like to see it get better. Further these concerns are shared by some top coaches as well as ex-players themselves.

All things are advanced through discourse and analysis. That's all this thread is about, at least from my perspective.

;) CC
 

tennispro11

Hall of Fame
I would have to say that I would like to see the level go up on the women's game. I mean I am watching the USO women's final and the commentators just said that they haven't had a women's final go three sets since 1995. That's crazy. Doesn't sound too entertaining to me.
 

jukka1970

Professional
Too be quite honest, I too am sick of the women's side of tennis. Most of the matches are blow outs. I won't criticize anyone as I believe there's a fault in every player. And quite frankly, am sure any of them could blow me off the court. I wouldn't win a single game against any of them. So this isn't about me being critical, or acting like, well I could do better. But lets face it, the women's game total sucks now, how ironic is it that the equal pay comes now.

To add to that, there was a time that I loved watching women's tennis. Navratilova, Graf, Sanchez-Vicario, Novotna, Seles, Capriati, just to name a few. And by the way, I think any of these players could easily have played 5 setters at the slams (it's only 4 times a year for crying out loud) And yes William sisters too in the beginning. Back then the matches were entertaining, the power and conditioning were there. Now it seems to be more about modeling clothes, and whether they can survive two sets, let alone 3 without sucking wind. Back then to me the mens game was a bit more boring, mainly because the tv was showing mostly Sampras, and he essentially was blowing everyone off the court at Wimbledon. But at least it was 3 sets. And there were matches worth watching, Becker and Edberg, Henman later on, and a few others. Now it's the complete opposite, I've never seen so many 5 setters that kept going. Ok so Federer isn't in the 5 setters, but a lot of the other top players have been. And the matches have been anything but blow outs. I mean seriously, the women are getting paid equal money for this??

Jukka
 

fuzz nation

G.O.A.T.
Though I'd prefer to keep a more positive outlook on things, I too have thrown the WTA under the bus.

The big reality check for me came when Daniela Hantukova had Serena, cramps 'n all, on the ropes at Wimbledon, but let her out of there with a win. Still shaking my head over that drama.

Something was clearly not right in the cosmos since the Aus. Open final when Maria and Serena merely took batting practice on each other for a couple of sets. Arguably two of the very best players in the world on the court and despite the losing strategy, Maria had no plan B. Zilch!

Here's to Justine who owns the top of the heap for all the right reasons. She's put in the time to learn the whole game and develop the fitness level that anyone would expect of a professional. She'll be a helluva role model for the next generation... according to my positive outlook.
 
I won't condemn all female players of WTA, but I will say I don't usually tune into a women's match unless I know who they are or have read about them (and I do try to read about all players up and coming somehow) because all too often it is completely subpar basic levels of top women's players. Do they really need to do so much and be taught and coached so much to become great players, solid, consistent players as compared to men? There just really seems to be little surprise there. Bartoli seemed to come out of no where to go deep at Wimbledon, but how often is this so really, and how long do they keep it up? Flash in the pan? Just seems a empty spinning wheels philosophy in women's tennis right now. And yes just the hitting hard, wear the most bright outfit, make the most advertisements. Seems lessening of an honest sport. I Like to watch Jankovic play, Peer, Henin, and yes I like some of the excitement the Williams can bring to it, but drama...too much drama and player hating amongst self.
 

Chauvalito

Hall of Fame
The match today was quite boring, as I have posted elsewhere.

It was really sad to see Kuze unable to capitalize on any of the breakpoints she had.

I dont think I have ever started to regrip a racket during a match, mens or womens.
 

Chauvalito

Hall of Fame
I have enjoyed watching Chakvedatze...when she isnt losing a mtach she could win(semi's).

She is so good at placing the ball into the corners and down the line with such minimal strokes.
 

phoony

Banned
Actually WTA tennis is not that boring. Well just depending on whose player on court and who you're supporting.
 

pow

Hall of Fame
Not really. For examples i support on Maria. Definitely i will find her games very interesting and good to see too ;). You get what i mean.

You must have your TV on mute, and if you're speaking of her game being interesting... I don't know what you mean.
 

Mister G

Rookie
LOL

Interesting topic. BluBarry makes a very good point... Personally, I kinda miss Davenport along with the others that you guys/gals mentioned. I thought she was a great.
 
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