improving utr for d1 college tennis - possible?

is it possible for a player have 7 utr in 9th grade, 10-11 utr in 10th grade, and 12-13 utr by 12th

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tennis2579

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if I have roughly utr 7 right now (9th grade) is it possible to increase that to a 10 utr in 1 year and from there go to a high 12 or low 13 when I graduate high school and get recruited to a good d1 tennis program?

I know I haven't provided a lot of details, I am just asking if this would be possible or not hypothetically, assuming the player will put in the time needed and grades are not an issue.
 
Anything is "possible" but I say very unlikely. I say this with experience of having had 3 kids play junior tennis with the last one finishing 11th grade now with UTR 11.
 
If you are a 7 now, you need to play others in the 8 range. UTR ignores results from big UTR differences. Beat all the 8's until you you are at least a mid-8. Then advance to 9's. Rinse and repeat. The probability of success will depend on how well you do in these matches. It is extremely unlikely you will get to UTR 10 because even if you are a 7 and beat a 10, the results will be ignored.
 
@mikej
I don't mean the actual number, just is it possible to get to that level. I was using UTR just as a gauge of playing level. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

i know what you mean

It’s just that this post comes in a zillion different forms on different types of forums
- can I improve my UTR enough to play D1 tennis
- are my high school stats good enough for xyz college
- are my med school stats good enough for xyz residency
- if I get this grade on my next test can I end up with __ grade for this course
Etc

I’d encourage you to do your best and enjoy the process, and if you do that you’ll end up enjoying competitive tennis for life, and learning a lot that will help you outside of tennis, whether your path ends up including competitive D1 tennis or not.
 
If you are a 7 now, you need to play others in the 8 range. UTR ignores results from big UTR differences. Beat all the 8's until you you are at least a mid-8. Then advance to 9's. Rinse and repeat. The probability of success will depend on how well you do in these matches. It is extremely unlikely you will get to UTR 10 because even if you are a 7 and beat a 10, the results will be ignored.

This is incorrect. For matches with UTR difference more than 2.0, result will count if lower rated player pulls the upset. See below from UTR website.

Why does the algorithm exclude matches with a UTR difference of more than 2.00?
As the difference in UTR increases, so does the likelihood the higher-rated player wins the match easily. Our data indicates matches with a UTR difference of more than 2.00 are almost certain to be a blowout. Results like these are not indicative of either player’s skill level and are excluded by the algorithm. However, in rare cases, the algorithm may wait to gather more data points before counting an anomalous result toward a player's rating.
Do matches with a UTR difference of more than 2.00 ever count towards my UTR?
Yes, there is one scenario in which this occurs. If the lower-rated player wins the match, this result will count towards each player’s rating. For example, if a 5.20 wins a match against a 7.61, this match will count. However, if a 7.61 wins a match against a 5.20, this match will not count. In rare cases, the algorithm may wait to gather more data points before counting an anomalous result toward a player's rating.
 
i know what you mean

It’s just that this post comes in a zillion different forms on different types of forums
- can I improve my UTR enough to play D1 tennis
- are my high school stats good enough for xyz college
- are my med school stats good enough for xyz residency
- if I get this grade on my next test can I end up with __ grade for this course
Etc

I’d encourage you to do your best and enjoy the process, and if you do that you’ll end up enjoying competitive tennis for life, and learning a lot that will help you outside of tennis, whether your path ends up including competitive D1 tennis or not.
This! This! A thousand times this!

My daughter will be playing for a top d3 program next year and if I could go back and change one thing from my perspective it would’ve been to enjoy the process and to encourage her to do the same. I sometimes got too caught up in rankings,ratings etc and drove everyone crazy! That’s not to say she didn’t enjoy and excel in juniors- she very much did and we enjoyed traveling to tournaments together - most of the time. She is a talented player who is excited about college tennis but it could have gone the other way...chasing some number spit out by a less than perfect algorithm is no way to enjoy your junior career. Relax, practice intelligently play as many tournaments as your schedule allows and the results will come!
 
This! This! A thousand times this!

My daughter will be playing for a top d3 program next year and if I could go back and change one thing from my perspective it would’ve been to enjoy the process and to encourage her to do the same. I sometimes got too caught up in rankings,ratings etc and drove everyone crazy! That’s not to say she didn’t enjoy and excel in juniors- she very much did and we enjoyed traveling to tournaments together - most of the time. She is a talented player who is excited about college tennis but it could have gone the other way...chasing some number spit out by a less than perfect algorithm is no way to enjoy your junior career. Relax, practice intelligently play as many tournaments as your schedule allows and the results will come!

10 years from now I’d bet good money that she’ll be glad she played top d3 vs competitive d1 - will likely be less destructive to her other (academic / social) pursuits in college - less likely to be burned out and put the racquets away forever after college - same exact chance of going pro after college
 
10 years from now I’d bet good money that she’ll be glad she played top d3 vs competitive d1 - will likely be less destructive to her other (academic / social) pursuits in college - less likely to be burned out and put the racquets away forever after college - same exact chance of going pro after college
She’s very glad she’s going d3! Some of her peers who are more or less the same level as she - around that high 7 to high 8 Utr are playing d1 and wondered why she didn’t go that route.

I would really encourage the OP to keep an open mind and not just get stuck on d1 or nothing
 
i know what you mean

It’s just that this post comes in a zillion different forms on different types of forums
- can I improve my UTR enough to play D1 tennis
- are my high school stats good enough for xyz college
- are my med school stats good enough for xyz residency
- if I get this grade on my next test can I end up with __ grade for this course
Etc

I’d encourage you to do your best and enjoy the process, and if you do that you’ll end up enjoying competitive tennis for life, and learning a lot that will help you outside of tennis, whether your path ends up including competitive D1 tennis or not.
Couldn't have said it better. What's needed is focusing on playing and practicing more with purpose, finding ways to get better, playing as many matches and tournaments as your can, learning from your wins and losses, placing an emphasis on daily effort, good attitude, etc. There's good books to read more on personal and performance improvement you should look into.

Stay away from the numbers, like rankings, ratings and UTR as much as possible and keep your focus on getting out to the court, gym and in the books and improving. The results will take care of themselves.
 
Very unlikely, my friend. I look at how tennis is developing in colleges and I am happy with the success of some of them. For me, tennis is not only a hobby, but also a sport that I want to do professionally. Unfortunately, I have a lot of homework in college. The website https://papersowl.com/examples/ helps me, where I find samples of research on various issues. It helps me save my time and pay more attention to tennis.
 
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Aim for a 9-9.5, that’s definitely doable. 12-13 is unreasonable, but there’s been high schoolers I know of that went from 8-10/11 from freshman-senior so it’s possible to make 2-2.5 UTR leaps like that.
 
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