In the final analysis, Federer actually came closer to the CYGS (TWICE)

TennisManiac

Hall of Fame
I know Djokovic's run this year was the most dramatic because he took it down to the very last match out of the 28 grand slam matches needed to achieve the CYGS, but he fell 3 sets short of what was needed. Federer, actually came closer to Novak's '21 run twice. In fact, Novak was closer in '15 than this year.

Here is the breakdown of how the Big 3 have fared in getting the necessary sets required to win all four GS:

Federer:

2006: -2 sets required
2007: -2 sets required

Djokovic

2015: -2 sets required
2021: -3 sets required

Nadal:

2010: -9 sets required
2019: -7 sets required
This proves it. Federer is GOAT. Debate is over.
 

T007

Professional
Even as a huge Federer fan this is a giant over reach. Novak let the moment get to him and had less left in the tank than we all thought, but even two sets down he had better odds of beating Medvedev than Fed ever had of beating Rafa in ‘06 or ‘07 at RG. Heck, give me this version of Novak down 2 sets vs Medvedev over any version of Fed up two sets vs ‘06 or ‘07 Rafa at RG. That’s actually still easy money, you’d have to give Fed 3 or 4 games and a break point in the final set against this year’s Nadal for 50/50 odds.
Peak Fed would have destroyed this version of Medvedev. Djokovic to be honest wasn't playing best all the year. He was winning cos the inability of NextGen to hold their nerves under pressure.
Djokovic got exhausted because of his own game style. Fed never used to win in those grinding fashion. And if he were in djokovics position he could have easily beaten any Next Gen final ..providing that 33-34 yr old Federer Peakovic a run for his money in 2015. Guess what Federer played over 150 matches in the tour with 2014-15 combined.
 

goldengate14

Semi-Pro
Add 2009 to it as he one set away in both AO and USO Final.

Djokovic had cakewalk draws till SFs this year but his performance proved that he wasn't that good against a deflated field to win CYGS
Its why i do not think Djokovic wins a slam again. When he realises what a golden chamce he had at both Olympics and Uso to make history i really think it will break him
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Surely this has been mentioned already but in case it hasn't - Novak too made it to three slams plus one final two times, the exact same as Federer - 2015 and 2021. The difference boils down to just one extra set won by Fed in the RG final. So that doesn't mean he got closer than Novak twice. And to the contrary, Federer never made it to US Open having already won the first three slams of the year. So he was NEVER in a position to win the CYGS. Nor was Nadal. Only Novak even got to that point.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
I know Djokovic's run this year was the most dramatic because he took it down to the very last match out of the 28 grand slam matches needed to achieve the CYGS, but he fell 3 sets short of what was needed. Federer, actually came closer to Novak's '21 run twice. In fact, Novak was closer in '15 than this year.

Here is the breakdown of how the Big 3 have fared in getting the necessary sets required to win all four GS:

Federer:

2006: -2 sets required
2007: -2 sets required

Djokovic

2015: -2 sets required
2021: -3 sets required

Nadal:

2010: -9 sets required
2019: -7 sets required
Good lord, so many likes for an OP so devoid of logic. What I just said is staring you in the face in the data you have yourself compiled and yet you claim Fed got closer to the CYGS than Novak TWICE.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Assuming he wins the FO and Wimbledon without Nadal which he probably would have... He would be going for 6 in a row at the USO along with the CYGS.. Pressure would be immense but then again his biggest competition on Hard courts then was his bunny Roddick so you are probably right.
Bunny Roddick took him to four at the USO. With CYGS pressure, could well turn into a Roddick victory.
 

Madinolf

Rookie
I know Djokovic's run this year was the most dramatic because he took it down to the very last match out of the 28 grand slam matches needed to achieve the CYGS, but he fell 3 sets short of what was needed. Federer, actually came closer to Novak's '21 run twice. In fact, Novak was closer in '15 than this year.

Here is the breakdown of how the Big 3 have fared in getting the necessary sets required to win all four GS:

Federer:

2006: -2 sets required
2007: -2 sets required

Djokovic

2015: -2 sets required
2021: -3 sets required

Nadal:

2010: -9 sets required
2019: -7 sets required
LOL

Djokovic was 1 match away from the GS (2021), Federer 15 (2006 and 2007), Nadal 18 (2009).
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
which one of these players are one slam wonder like delpotro

med
theim
tsipisas
zeverv

add of your own
Domi looks the most like it. Really seems to be done after winning a slam. He looks like he will wind up even more of a one slam wonder than Delpo, like the kind of player who will later make you wonder how he even won that one slam. Sissy and Zed are presently slamless wonders so nothing to comment. Med looks good for another at minimum.
 

Sunny014

Legend
What you jokers fail to realize here is that nobody was going to stop Fed from winning CYGS in 2006 except that lone loss to Nadal because only Nadal on clay could have done it and that Nadal was far better than any Nadal that Novak faced after 2014 with the sole exception of 2020 which Novak got butchered.

So it is actually a colossal wastage of time to even engage in a discussion with you lot who cannot acknowledge this basic fact, once you acknowledge this fact then we can discuss further after we move on and come to a common ground, otherwise we are still just glorifying our heroes here as if our prestige depends on it.

Why for once can't you come out of your miserable obsession with your hero and accept that the other guy was scary close too, there is no pressure when you are light years ahead of the rest of the field..... get this in your heads all of you
 

Sunny014

Legend
Federer came really close to CYGS in 2006, 2007 and came close to the NCYGS in 2009-2010 period.
Nadal never came really close to CYGS but he can very close to NCYGS in 2010-2011 period at the time of the AO.
Novak came close to CYGS in 2015 and 2021 and he actually got the NCYGS in 2015-2016

Note 2011, 2004 and 2010 were also close to CYGS as they were 3 slams years but not that close, Novak would have had to beat Rafa even if he beat Fed, Fed if he beat Kuerten not sure if he would beat everyone else or not, but you could still think maybe he would? In 2010 if Nadal was fit at AO things could be different but then we never know....
 

ND-13

Hall of Fame
I don’t want to be too anal. Djokovic did all 4 and Fed was stopped there only because of Nadal.

Rest all is semantics
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Nah, he never did. Novak was stopped near the finishing line, Fed never even got to that point.

Fed was close in 2006 though, would bet good money on him winning CYGS if he had won FO that year (and the gap between him and Nadal on clay wasn't as big compared to other years).
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
In theory both Fed in 2006 and Djokovic in 2015 were up a set in the final of the one slam they didn't win in both of those seasons, so assuming all else plays out exactly the same you could say they were closer in those years? But that's not really how it works, in practice Federer never got close.
 

InsideOut900

Hall of Fame
Nah, he never did. Novak was stopped near the finishing line, Fed never even got to that point.

Fed was close in 2006 though, would bet good money on him winning CYGS if he had won FO that year (and the gap between him and Nadal on clay wasn't as big compared to other years).
It's possible Federer actually felt the RG final was the defacto CYGS match, which could explain why he seemed so nervous after the 1st set of the 2006 final.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
What a poor lie and defence after being caught out for open racism. "I'm black homie". No way I'm believing this.
I thought you were a good poster from whatever interactions we had in last 2 weeks or so.
but seriously, this is a SHAME...
I HOPE ALLAH GRANTS YOU WITH NON RACIST MENTALITY.
What, he's racist against himself :-D

And MN posted his picture (even video) many times on the forum, don't play dumb.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
It's possible Federer actually felt the RG final was the defacto CYGS match, which could explain why he seemed so nervous after the 1st set of the 2006 final.
Pretty sure he did, he was also coached by Roche in those years who probably told him many first hand stories about Laver. Fed was gunning for CYGS in 2006, no doubt in my mind.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
Peak Fed would have destroyed this version of Medvedev. Djokovic to be honest wasn't playing best all the year. He was winning cos the inability of NextGen to hold their nerves under pressure.
Djokovic got exhausted because of his own game style. Fed never used to win in those grinding fashion. And if he were in djokovics position he could have easily beaten any Next Gen final ..providing that 33-34 yr old Federer Peakovic a run for his money in 2015. Guess what Federer played over 150 matches in the tour with 2014-15 combined.
Fed gave 2015 Peakovic a run for his money on faster surfaces, he lost to Seppi at AO and got smoked by his pigeon at the French. He wasn't even a contender on slower surfaces.
 

NatF

Bionic Poster
Pretty sure he did, he was also coached by Roche in those years who probably told him many first hand stories about Laver. Fed was gunning for CYGS in 2006, no doubt in my mind.
For sure in those 2006/2007 matches at the FO Fed was dealing with more pressure than just another slam final - something seldom spoken about. Djokovic himself laid an egg in the first set of the 2016 FO final and he was playing Murray lol.
 

Amen786

Semi-Pro
What, he's racist against himself :-D

And MN posted his picture (even video) many times on the forum, don't play dumb.
@MichaelNadal has already forgove me for that. Because I wasn't acknowledged about it & didn't know him much.
Also, I don't like playing dumb. I don't follow any people here closely because I've not made friends with anyone (yet), and I also dont participate in forum's non-tennis sections.
once I familiarise with everyone I'll maybe stop making such silly mistakes.
no one other than the almighty is error free.
 

T007

Professional
Fed gave 2015 Peakovic a run for his money on faster surfaces, he lost to Seppi at AO and got smoked by his pigeon at the French. He wasn't even a contender on slower surfaces.
He beat djoker 3 times on HC and performed way better than 34 year old djoker in 2015 open. He thrashed peak Stan in straight sets in USO.
 

6august

Hall of Fame
I know Djokovic's run this year was the most dramatic because he took it down to the very last match out of the 28 grand slam matches needed to achieve the CYGS, but he fell 3 sets short of what was needed. Federer, actually came closer to Novak's '21 run twice. In fact, Novak was closer in '15 than this year.

Here is the breakdown of how the Big 3 have fared in getting the necessary sets required to win all four GS:

Federer:

2006: -2 sets required
2007: -2 sets required

Djokovic

2015: -2 sets required
2021: -3 sets required

Nadal:

2010: -9 sets required
2019: -7 sets required
No, actually Djokovic is the only one that came close to that. Federer and Nadal failed before that last event took place )))

But it doesn't matter. At the end, none of them won CYGS.

)))
 

Sunny014

Legend
No, actually Djokovic is the only one that came close to that. Federer and Nadal failed before that last event took place )))

But it doesn't matter. At the end, none of them won CYGS.

)))
Djokovic is the weakling who came close to it by facing geriatric nadal and still fell short
 
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