Incoming slice lob

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  1. toth

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    The situation: we both are 3.5 , righty player. I have little volley practise.
    I assume, if i approach and than the opponent hits a slice backhand cross lob, i schould be able to smash from the forehand side (fh wing smash, avoid the bh smash).

    Is that right?

    Thank your answer
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  2. SinjinCooper

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    A good lob, you retreat and retrieve. A poor one, you smash.
     
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  3. S&V-not_dead_yet

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    If he hits a CC BH lob, the ball is heading towards your BH: Unless you're supremely athletic or it was a very slow lob, you won't be able to hit a FH OH. You'll likely have to hit a BH OH/high volley. Depending on how good you are at this shot, you may decide to retreat to the BL; if it's a good shot, come back to the net.
     
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    Tennis is not chess.
    The ball that was hit doesn't follow strictly prescribed rules. Instead, it can be mishit or misintended, going somehow, somewhere else.
    That's why it takes a minimum of 4 years to become a 4.0 level player.
     
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  5. toth

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    I must hit an excellent approach shot or what about i would like to make it difficoult for the opponent to lob me comfortable and force me to hit a backhand smash?
     
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  6. S&V-not_dead_yet

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    A low, angled, slice is pretty difficult to lob. On the other hand, a topspin into their strike zone [even if they have to move] can more easily be lobbed.
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    If you're worried about the lob still, maybe hang back a bit, closer to the service line than the net. But if he then starts driving the ball, adjust and move in closer on subsequent plays.
     
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  7. toth

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    Is it important to slice the ball angled?
    Percentage tennis advices dtl approach.
    Why is it difficoult to answer a slice approach with slice lob? Becouse there is little space between the ball and the court surface?
    (I have not enough experience in approach and volley)
     
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  8. nytennisaddict

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    just to add on...
    to the OP also depends on:
    * how well you anticipate (ie. did you get a jump on the ball)
    * how well you move
    * how well you generally hit OH

    in my mind, in a perfect world...
    * i see the racquet face open... and immediately jab step and start my movement backwards
    * see the trajectory, and start moving diagonally backward to avoid a bh OH
    * get there in plenty of time where i can actually get my weight moving forward as i hit a normal OH

    worse case scenario (presuming the lob is not a clean winner)
    * opponent fools me, and i've closing to volley
    * i'm scramblig to get back, and can't hit a bh or nromal OH
    * i arrive late, and can only hit an over the shoulder shot
     
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  9. If your footwork is good, you should be able to get back to it and get into position to hit a smash on your forehand side. If it's a high one you can opt to let it bounce first then go for the smash for a higher consistency.
     
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  10. Nellie

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    I think that unless the lob is very good, you should be able to hit a regular (not high BH lob). Get ready in a trophy position with the racquet up (racquet head pointed up) and your BH hand pointed at the ball. If the ball is travelling to your bH side, stay sideways and back pedal to get under the ball.
     
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  11. mnttlrg

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    At the 3.5 level, the biggest mistake people make at the net is thinking that a line drive shot (like a high slice) is something you should take a giant overhead cut at. more often than not, you need to punch it like a volley with little to no swing versus trying to be the Bryan brothers smashing the ball into the stands.
     
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  12. S&V-not_dead_yet

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    Your original post was "slice backhand cross lob" which implies you approached CC. Whether that's wise is a different question [generally you approach DTL].

    Angling the slice might make it more difficult for your opponent to comfortably reach and therefore to lob.

    Difficulty is two-fold: when you slice lob, you have to counteract the incoming slice, which means generating opposite spin. If the incoming shot was TS, the resultant slice would mean the spin is in the same direction. Try having someone feed you both TS and slice and see which one is easier to lob: assuming the same racquet angle, the lob off of the incoming slice will be lower in arc. It's the same reason a volleyer will put an incoming slice into the net: because he didn't fully counteract the spin and open his racquet face enough.

    The 2nd reason is height: regardless of what spin is on the ball, the lower it is, the more difficult the next shot.
     
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