Increasing twist-weights.

cortado

Professional
I've been comparing racquet specs on the TWU racquet comparison tool.
It seems that quite a few different racquet models have increased their twist-weight substantially over the last decade or so. Eg Head Speed 18x20/Pro. The Youtek IG 18x20 has twist-weight 11.6. This year's Speed Pro is 14.4
Does anybody have any insight in to whether there has been a deliberate move my manufacturers to increase the average twist-weight of their models?
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Its a result of the more significant low to high swing happening in the modern game needing more stability at the vertical axis.

Also, please don't disparage the IG prestige mp. It was the prior youtek version with the super low TW.
 

cortado

Professional
Its a result of the more significant low to high swing happening in the modern game needing more stability at the vertical axis.

Also, please don't disparage the IG prestige mp. It was the prior youtek version with the super low TW.
But if that is true, why do I get more spin from my Wilson Pro Staff 90 asian version, which I think I am correct in saying has a low twist-weight? Surely low twist-weight makes it easier for you to create low to high swings and other small adjustments of racquet face angle? Higher twist-weight racquets that I have tried feel like they want to come through the swing at one angle only, often quite flat.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
But if that is true, why do I get more spin from my Wilson Pro Staff 90 asian version, which I think I am correct in saying has a low twist-weight? Surely low twist-weight makes it easier for you to create low to high swings and other small adjustments of racquet face angle? Higher twist-weight racquets that I have tried feel like they want to come through the swing at one angle only, often quite flat.
Whats your grip? Fed is eastern and likes a lower TW for the reasons you mentioned.

Rafa is semi and likes a high TW since the tilt is already embedded in the swing and he's looking for forgiveness if catching the ball low (which he does a lot!)
 

cortado

Professional
Whats your grip? Fed is eastern and likes a lower TW for the reasons you mentioned.

Rafa is semi and likes a high TW since the tilt is already embedded in the swing and he's looking for forgiveness if catching the ball low (which he does a lot!)
My grip is generally semi-western. I've read that Rafa's racquet actually has low twist-weight?
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
My grip is generally semi-western. I've read that Rafa's racquet actually has low twist-weight?
Yeah I'm not a prostock expert and I understand the original aero he plays is lower TW than the current retail frame. But his SW is still 350+ which is not workable for the vast majority of players, so Babolat must understand something by getting the TW to 15 and keeping SW lower for the regular buyer.
 

Dragy

Legend
Lower TW is understood to allow for faster edge-on swinging, hence more low-to-high RHS. Higher TW allows to produce solid contact even on off-center hits. Actually, optimal TW for big topspin drives shall be some compromise with the need to individually adjust. Now consider head shape/width, string formula/spacing, string type and tension, frame stiffness are all parts of equation...

One may achieve best result with gradually evolving his racquet of choice. If current TW is not in the highest range, and mishits happen trying to hit topspin drives spoiling the resulting ball, ine may try to add some lead at 3&9 (or move it from 12 o'clock location). If one is using a narrow racquet, like a mid, he can try 100 sq.in. 18x20 thin beam option expanding the sweetspot and stability (TW) with generally keeping string density and beam flex, hence feel.

If one's racquet is too hesitative to move in low-to-high direction while beeing 100% stable on slightly off-center hits, one may try to go lower TW and look how it works for him.
 

aaron_h27

Professional
But if that is true, why do I get more spin from my Wilson Pro Staff 90 asian version, which I think I am correct in saying has a low twist-weight? Surely low twist-weight makes it easier for you to create low to high swings and other small adjustments of racquet face angle? Higher twist-weight racquets that I have tried feel like they want to come through the swing at one angle only, often quite flat.
if swingweight is equal, lower twistweight will have more spin and higher twistweight will have more directional control.
 
Lower TW is understood to allow for faster edge-on swinging, hence more low-to-high RHS. Higher TW allows to produce solid contact even on off-center hits. Actually, optimal TW for big topspin drives shall be some compromise with the need to individually adjust. Now consider head shape/width, string formula/spacing, string type and tension, frame stiffness are all parts of equation...

One may achieve best result with gradually evolving his racquet of choice. If current TW is not in the highest range, and mishits happen trying to hit topspin drives spoiling the resulting ball, ine may try to add some lead at 3&9 (or move it from 12 o'clock location). If one is using a narrow racquet, like a mid, he can try 100 sq.in. 18x20 thin beam option expanding the sweetspot and stability (TW) with generally keeping string density and beam flex, hence feel.

If one's racquet is too hesitative to move in low-to-high direction while beeing 100% stable on slightly off-center hits, one may try to go lower TW and look how it works for him.
I'm coming from a youtek prestige mp and wanted something more forgiving with similar feel and just ordered a gravity pro. Sounds like the scenario you're describing exactly
 
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