Indian Moon Mission led by women!

sureshs said:
Obviously you are not the type to understand stuff unless it happens to you, but people like me have the well-being of everyone at heart.
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You can use words like "person" all you want, and think it will change thinking, but there are some languages in which similar words are already gender neutral. I wonder what change we have to do in such words to have an effect.
I am just saying that I doubt that such superficial changes are going to take away misogyny.
You are a known misogynist, so you would know better.

Has the usage of chairperson and spokesperson reduced your misogyny ?
 
sureshs said:
And things evolve. Manhole and Chairman made sense when all of the people working in those positions were men. I remember when I started working, a guy in the office said I am the new receptionist. I was shocked for a moment because I had always pictured the position as female. As times change, terms should also change.
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So what is the correct term now for receptionists and secretaries ?
 
They are trying to sell us a new moon mission on the basis that a woman has yet to put her kitten heels (excuse the misogyny) down on lunar soil.
 
sureshs said:
Differently abled, visually challenged, mentally challenged, etc. are very important to prevent dehumanization.
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We had parking spaces for the handicapped, or were asked to give a seat to a handicapped or disabled person.
Now it really doesn't make sense to give a parking space for differently abled. It does not make sense. There are lots of people with different abilities. The real meaning is lost. One has to go back to the old meaning to realize what it means. Someone like Shakuntala Devi could be differently abled too. But she is not handicapped and does not need special parking or a wheelchair ramp.

It's like when people say special child, one has to immediately think "oh they mean a child of low IQ". Now don't pretend that special child means exactly what it says.
 
I read about the california town that is doing away with masculine and fem terms. I assume those are only enforced on the people who speak english?

Otherwise spanish would have major problems with the el, la and ending letter of alot of words
 
Chadalina said:
I read about the california town that is doing away with masculine and fem terms. I assume those are only enforced on the people who speak english?

Otherwise spanish would have major problems with the el, la and ending letter of alot of words
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I was thinking of my language where there are a lot of words like operator, guide etc which are already neutral.

On the other hand there are words ending with "wala" and "wali" denoting male or female and no neutral alternative. So we would have to cook up some awkward term in those cases.
 
Chadalina said:
I read about the california town that is doing away with masculine and fem terms. I assume those are only enforced on the people who speak english?

Otherwise spanish would have major problems with the el, la and ending letter of alot of words
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We need to now do away with boy and girl, daughter and son.

Mother and father also.
After that we can tackle uncle and aunt.
 
Chadalina said:
I read about the california town that is doing away with masculine and fem terms. I assume those are only enforced on the people who speak english?

Otherwise spanish would have major problems with the el, la and ending letter of alot of words
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What? Someone was mocked for saying Las Angeles?
By the way, Mission Viejo is a terrible grammar mistake that makes me cringe.
As misión is a feminine noun, it should have been Mission Vieja. :laughing:
 
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@r2473
Me too. I've never seen anyone other than a man descend into the hole to do the maintenance. Until I see a woman doing the same work I will continue to think it's more PC policing than real logic.
 
Can't blame you guys for the stereotypes from reading some shocking headlines.
Robert Baratheon said:
Not enough Muslims to kill either..
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Red Rick said:
no classes for legitimised discrimination.
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Sadly this may become more of a reality with the current gov. People who are against this are being put down now. Anyone asking questions or opposing is being put down/arrested/misquoted etc.

Religious tolerance has become a bad word. Being educated has become bad. There's even a term for us now: The Khan Market Gang (or cacophony). Khan Market is an up-scale market in New Delhi.
Anyone who is educated is supposed to be "not in touch with the problems of the country", and comfortably living in their ivory towers or air-conditioned homes talking about tolerance and equal opportunity. We are now the enemies of the country.

We are being taken into the "next century" by people who go around shooting and beating up poll booth operators, and anyone who dares raise a voice or ask a question.

p.s. don't quote this post. I'll be deleting it shortly.
 
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Sentinel said:
Can't blame you guys for the stereotypes from reading some shocking headlines.

p.s. don't quote this post. I'll be deleting it shortly.
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Not really quoting the part of the post you want to have deleted.
I totally understand your situation and I get how the intellectuals and the progressive people have been isolated and given a bad image in the public and been portrayed on a national scale as unpatriotic.
In every country when the right wing comes in power they do this. It's a classical case.
Been happening throughout history.

Also I know very well that the country is setting a new normal in terms of what is "allowed" and "okay" and what is not.
Still I don't really have stereotypes about the country, atleast not the ones I mentioned above.
It's more of a case of me memeing my way through the stereotypes held by the west.
 
Robert Baratheon said:
Also I know very well that the country is setting a new normal in terms of what is "allowed" and "okay" and what is not
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They've come into power with their populist talk and trash talk or whatever it is called. Going for vote banks by talking about religion and getting everyone else out.

I can't believe the majority fell for this thing but that's the common man who puts some kind of religious back-slap above logic/employment.

I am not exactly for the opposite either. They have come across as too weak, relying on the family name etc. Every time they spoke up in the last few months, the man in power today twisted their words and made it look like they had insulted the air force, or Hindus or security people. Everything they say is twisted, and the opposition fall for the game each time and have no way of dealing with it.

Just the other day Priyanka Gandhi landed up where a massacre had happened. She was asked to apologize for shedding "crocodile tears" and what not. She was arrested. They said she should have taken permission before visiting. Finally the CM came on TV and was asking for her to apologise to those people. It's become so sick that it is hard to watch the news. It's almost like Na-zi Germany.
 
Sentinel said:
They've come into power with their populist talk and trash talk or whatever it is called. Going for vote banks by talking about religion and getting everyone else out.

I can't believe the majority fell for this thing but that's the common man who puts some kind of religious back-slap above logic/employment.

I am not exactly for the opposite either. They have come across as too weak, relying on the family name etc. Every time they spoke up in the last few months, the man in power today twisted their words and made it look like they had insulted the air force, or Hindus or security people. Everything they say is twisted, and the opposition fall for the game each time and have no way of dealing with it.

Just the other day Priyanka Gandhi landed up where a massacre had happened. She was asked to apologize for shedding "crocodile tears" and what not. She was arrested. They said she should have taken permission before visiting. Finally the CM came on TV and was asking for her to apologise to those people. It's become so sick that it is hard to watch the news. It's almost like Na-zi Germany.
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I am afraid about what shape it will take going forward.
Ofcourse they won't go full blown **** Germany.
The average person, however lost he might be right now, is too good to let the country become **** Germany.

The need for a strong opposition has never been greater. I guess only the Indira Gandhi government was worse than this one.
But she too had a strong opposition as all the big parties of the country formed an alliance.
Right now the Congress is too weak to stand against Modi.

It's time for the Gandhi family to say goodbye to the Congress and let new leadership take the ruins.
Perhaps that would be the only true legacy of the Modi government-- that they ended the Gandhi dynasty lol.
 
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It’s easier in English, a language which generally has no gender variations, as Spanish or others:
Blanco/blanca (white), alto/alta (tall), gordo/gorda (fat), el/la (the), los/las (plural of the).
There is a movement in Spanish that wants to introduce changes in language to neutralize gender which I find ridiculous.
Instead of generally speaking about los niños (masculine) which should be understood to include las niñas (feminine), they invent “les niñes”, for instance.
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Traditional characters always got sex changes in German. The caterpillar, who was definitely male in Alice and Wonderland, because Frau Raupe because Raupe is a feminine noun. ;)
 
LIftoff is today at 2:43 pm which is slightly less than 2 hours from now.

There was a technical snag earlier.

Suresh was sitting in the pantry of the rocket munching supplies but now they got him off so it;s ready to go.
 
Robert Baratheon said:
It's time for the Gandhi family to say goodbye to the Congress and let new leadership take the ruins.
Perhaps that would be the only true legacy of the Modi government-- that they ended the Gandhi dynasty lol.
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OMG how many Gandhis are out there? Here we have the Bush and Clinton gang but fortunately Trump put an end to those dynasties.
 
Raul_SJ said:
OMG how many Gandhis are out there? Here we have the Bush and Clinton gang but fortunately Trump put an end to those dynasties.
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There was this one Gandhi and he was good, great even.
Then came many fake Gandhis. None blood related to the real Gandhi and ever since the Gandhi name has been associated with all the bad things.
There was this guy whose last name was Gandhey or something. He was a good guy. He was a fan of the real Gandhi.
So he changed his last name to Gandhi.
He married the daughter of the first Indian Prime Minister.
That lady went on to be the Prime Minister for a long time.
She was assassinated.
Then her son went on to be the PM.
Then he was assassinated.
His widow ruled the party after that.
The next prime ministers from the party were thought to be owned by her.
Her son got old and experienced enough(not really) to be the next PM.
But then this another party rose to dominate Indian politics.
Now both parties are the absolute scum.
One is weak, corrupt and plagued with nepotism, with no real leadership.
The other is a religious party, abusive of their power and pretty scary at this point of time.
 
Here we have only two viable parties Democrats and Republicans And those two parties are essentially the only ones represented in govt.

I had thought over there was much more variety in the govt. Communists , Socialists, Religious, etc.

Where does Modi fit in? He seems like a nice intelligent forward thinking guy. :unsure:
 
Sentinel said:
LIftoff is today at 2:43 pm which is slightly less than 2 hours from now.

There was a technical snag earlier.
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I am watching the live stream now from my speedy 56Kbps connection in Calcutta hoping that the electricity does not cut off. Excited to report that clean running water may be restored within a few days.
:(
 
Raul_SJ said:
Where does Modi fit in? He seems like a nice intelligent forward thinking guy. :unsure:
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Hindu nationalists have long propagated their belief that many discoveries of modern science and technology were known to the people of ancient India. But now for the first time an Indian prime minister has endorsed these claims, maintaining that cosmetic surgery and reproductive genetics were practiced thousands of years ago.

As proof, Narendra Modi gave the examples of the warrior Karna from the Sanskrit epic Mahabharata and of the elephant-headed Hindu god Ganesha.

“We can feel proud of what our country achieved in medical science at one point of time,” the prime minister told a gathering of doctors and other professionals at a hospital in Mumbai on Saturday. “We all read about Karna in the Mahabharata. If we think a little more, we realise that the Mahabharata says Karna was not born from his mother’s womb. This means that genetic science was present at that time. That is why Karna could be born outside his mother’s womb.”

Modi went on: “We worship Lord Ganesha. There must have been some plastic surgeon at that time who got an elephant’s head on the body of a human being and began the practice of plastic surgery.”
 
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