Indian Wells SF 2024: Alcaraz(2) vs Sinner(3)

[Vincent-C]

6-1 Djok in the first set at W 23
6-1 Sinner first set at IW 24

then both oddly forgot how to play tennis. Interesting!

 

[tudwell]

6-1 Djok in the first set at W 23
6-1 Sinner first set at IW 24

then both oddly forgot how to play tennis. Interesting!

An unexplainable mystery, really. I can’t think of any commonalities that might elucidate these similar occurrences.

 

[dking68]

An unexplainable mystery, really. I can’t think of any commonalities that might elucidate these similar occurrences.

Sinner didn’t look like himself in that third. I expect him to bounce back in Miami

 

[KantenKlaar]

Seriously, what bizarre comments about his mental fragility, Cahill needing to be fired etc.

Can't we just enjoy this rivalry without

I like watching the cart ride more than the match.

The cart trip was right up there with a slow motion tooth extraction.just disappointed it was over so quickly.

 

[Pheasant]

That was a great match. We have a heavyweight rivalry, folks.

 

[Vincent-C]

C'mon Meddy, let's get it done here.

 

[dking68]

Medvedev just loves collecting runner up plates

 

[Vincent-C]

Nnoooooo..

 

[Vincent-C]

phuck. I'm going to sleep.

 

[Bambooman]

My dog has more charisma than Djoko.

Making you pick up poo is not charisma.

 

[Tshooter]

phuck. I'm going to sleep.

 

[Tshooter]

Those tiebreak dots again.

 

[Rovesciarete]

Could not see the match but I have written before that IW was likely Charlie's best hardcourt surface vs Jannik.

So Sinner lost twice in so many months, against the legend Novak in his favourite condition and legend-to-be under his...

Congrats to Alcaraz!

 

[Lauren_Girl']

6-1 Djok in the first set at W 23
6-1 Sinner first set at IW 24

then both oddly forgot how to play tennis. Interesting!

Not exactly the same, lol. Wimbledon final was close until the last point. Djokovic made some UE on key points but it was a quality match overall.
I don't know what happened to Sinner today but the match wasn't close at all in sets 2 and 3. Totally one-sided and he turned into a UE machine.

Guess nobody stays undefeated until Miami. Nadal failed in IW in 2022. Sinner this year.
Very hard to win the AO and keep winning until IW.
A certain player didn't lose until RG in 2011. It seems like no one is touching this record anytime soon...

 

[Tshooter]

Could not see the match but I have written before that IW was likely Charlie's best hardcourt surface vs Jannik.

So Sinner lost twice in so many months, against the legend Novak in his favourite condition and legend-to-be under his...

Congrats to Alcaraz!

Some of TTWs greatest match analyses have come from posters that have not seen a single point of the match they are analyzing.

 

[messiahrobins]

Not exactly the same, lol. Wimbledon final was close until the last point. Djokovic made some UE on key points but it was a quality match overall.

I don't know what happened to Sinner today but the match wasn't close at all in sets 2 and 3. Totally one-sided and he turned into a UE machine.

Alcaraz has way more options how to play. Sinner is one dimensional. Alcaraz should have won the last two slams but got too over confident. Today he knuckled down after the 1st set and once he did he made sinner look one dimensional.
ALcaraz is the rightful no.1 and im sure will win the FO to make it official.

 

[Tshooter]

I don’t need a closeup of Paul’s foot.

 

[Rovesciarete]

Some of TTWs greatest match analysis have come from posters that have not seen a single point of the match they are analyzing.

Not analyzing mate, just thinking again about the conditions. Will do so duly after watchin it later for early breakfast.

 

[Tshooter]

…
ALcaraz is the rightful no.1…

Vamos is moral #1
FEDR is honorary #1
Egg is actual #1

 

[Tshooter]

Not analyzing mate, just thinking again about the conditions. Will do so duly after watchin it later for early breakfast.

You should analyze it before watching. And then again after. See how they correlate and which is the superior analysis.

 

[TheSlicer]

just watched the replay, well that was a dissapointing match honestly, but i guess we´ll take the win, last year carlos´ body let him down in miami, now it happened to sinner, i said this would happen when he won rotterdam but a lot of people didnt listen, " oh yeah hes gonna win the sunshine double and then and then, make semis of RG and then and then, win wimbledon, and then... man tennis nowadays is so physical, when youre winning a lot of matches it also means youre playing day in day out, it was gonna happen sooner or later, i said it, no matter how much sinner has improved physically, hes gonna feel it and little pains are gonna start apearing, i cant say im satisfied with the level of the match but that can happen when expectations are high, i feel carlos is gonna have to play better than today to win the final, but this will also help his bounce back, i dont know what to expect from sinner in miami, it wouldnt surprise me if he pulls out, he has to take care of his body first and foremost, its gonna be a long season and he has to manage his body if he wants to finish the year number one, carlos can take advantage of his loss at buenos aires and the injury in rio, this is the time he has had less matches at this point of the season for the last 2 years i hope this makes him fitter for the clay season and foward

 

[Tshooter]

…Still want to know why he and Tiafoe went their separate ways.

 

[abmk]

He played Djokovic 2017 level today. His AO level was Djokovic 2012/13 level

Oh please, Djokovic AO 12/13 would make chutney or powder out of Sinner AO 24. sinner AO 24 would win one set max.

 

[ALCARAZWON]

alcaraz is just too short. He’s too easily overpowered. He ain’t gonna grow. So he’s screwed unless he avoids sinner

I see why Djokovic is skipping Miami. An in-form Sinner is becoming unbeatable.

sinner just had to fix his serve. He did that. That dude is gonna mop up more titles than the big 3 unless a real opponent comes along like Nadal did for Fed or Djoker did for Nadal. He may leave the big 3 in the dust unless 2-3 guys step up or he gets injured

Sinner in God-mode

This is quickly turning into a Federer/roddick “rivalry”

The sinner era in full swing and it’s going to be a great ride watching this guy breaks lots of records. He’s a great player and has a cool calm aura about him as well.

Just tuning in. WTF is this garbage? Thanks for nothing Carlos

2024 Sinner > 2011 Djokovic

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

Djokovic is GOAT and a phenomenal champion but he has no charisma. Being a star is utterly different than having charisma, that's what I said.

 

[Genie Of the Bank]

Djokovic is GOAT and a phenomenal champion but he has no charisma. Being a star is utterly different than having charisma, that's what I said.

If anybody of the Big 3 lack charisma its the Pulover Man.

 

[FeroBango]

Receipt galore. Beautiful (though some there like NYTennis are Carlos fans who were just sad).

So yeah, this whole "Sinner 1.0 was already too hot for short Carlos. Sinner 2.0 will kill him everytime" nonsense has been quietened for now upon 2.0's first match against Alcaraz.

 

[FeroBango]

The weight of shots.

 

[FeroBango]

Del

 

[FeroBango]

I'm just catching up with the thread.

Receipts left and right from the usual suspects. So much fun.

 

[RF-18]

Missed this match cause of the damn Rain delay but congrats to Alcaraz! A very important win for him.

 

[FeroBango]

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It appears TTW posters who were writing the obituary for Alcaraz have officially left the thread.

Some did stick around only to diligently take credits away from Alcaraz.

 

[ActualTennisPlayer]

That was a great match. We have a heavyweight rivalry, folks.

Spot on!

 

[ALCARAZWON]

Receipt galore. Beautiful (though some there like NYTennis are Carlos fans who were just sad).

Fair-weather fans, turn on their player when the going gets tough.
I've seen that before, being a Nadal fan, 2015-16 in particular exposed them...
The worst kind of fan.

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Incredible comeback from Alcaraz. He proved me and many wrong tonight. That is a huge statement win and massive for his confidence going forward. Sinner momentum has been stopped.

After losing that first set like that to comeback and win shows amazing mental fortitude.

 

[Drighiz]

Hey all, I missed the whole game, it got too late for me. Does anybody know where I could read a good analysis of how it played out? It must have been wild!

 

[TheSlicer]

Hey all, I missed the whole game, it got too late for me. Does anybody know where I could read a good analysis of how it played out? It must have been wild!

To me It was one of the worse matches between them, they didnt really get to play good at the same time, sinner didnt give options to Alcaraz in the first also because alcaraz level wasnt as high, then in the second alcaraz changed tactics and upped the level, and in the 3rd Alcaraz kept a pretty consistent level and sinner was more erratic and started to feel the body, but apart from some nice high level points, the overall level of the match didnt feel very high to me, but then i guess they have spoiled us, not every match can be electrifying, there are many factors, conditions of the court, rain delay, physical state of players, etc, the best news from the match is that alcaraz is gonna get confident and we gonna have a fight between these two all year long, lets see if he can win the title today.

 

[Drighiz]

To me It was one of the worse matches between them, they didnt really get to play good at the same time, sinner didnt give options to Alcaraz in the first also because alcaraz level wasnt as high, then in the second alcaraz changed tactics and upped the level, and in the 3rd Alcaraz kept a pretty consistent level and sinner was more erratic and started to feel the body, but apart from some nice high level points, the overall level of the match didnt feel very high to me, but then i guess they have spoiled us, not every match can be electrifying, there are many factors, conditions of the court, rain delay, physical state of players, etc, the best news from the match is that alcaraz is gonna get confident and we gonna have a fight between these two all year long, lets see if he can win the title today.

I see. Also, sounds like Sinner's serve got pretty poor after the first set? I watched until the rain and until that point it had been solid. What tactic did Carlos employ that worked?

 

[alexio]

missed sfs due to well-known reason, but thats cute how the winner of both matches lost first set with 6-1, i like it

 

[TheSlicer]

I see. Also, sounds like Sinner's serve got pretty poor after the first set? I watched until the rain and until that point it had been solid. What tactic did Carlos employ that worked?

Sinner just couldnt keep a super serving level for so long, then in the 3rd he hurt his wrist a bit and his serve got even worse, Carlos change in the second set was exactly what he had to do, not feeding pace to sinner, use his variety, that forced sinner to Risk more, i see more players using that tactic against sinner, once youre the most in form player, you get chased more than you chase, thats part of tennis and the reason why its difficult to keep winning and winning, players figure out how to hurt you, you are forced to keep improving to keep winning, no high level is high enough for that, its about adapting until you retire

 

[Olli Jokinen]

alcaraz is just too short. He’s too easily overpowered. He ain’t gonna grow. So he’s screwed unless he avoids sinner

Sure thing.

 

[TheSlicer]

Sure thing.

Lol Human stupidity at its finest

 

[FeroBango]

Sure thing.

Always a good day to see Sampras-Bruguera get wrecked.

 

[Rattie]

Welcome back to tennis, Carlos!! Well played against a brilliant Sinner in the first hour. Go out and win the tournament tomorrow. @Rattie --wish you were awake to see this.

Whoooo! hoooo! He’s back!!!!
I switched on the replay the moment I woke up this morning. Very sloppy game by Carlos to drop serve early in the opening set. Seemed nervous and was missing his shots but Sinner was playing incredibly well. Credit to Carlos for changing tactics, adopting a deep return position, coming to the net more and switching it up from then on. Mentally much tougher than Jannik in this match.
The backhand winner on BP down in the second to prevent Sinner from levelling the scoreline was just awesome!
Vamos Charly, go win this now

 

[Rattie]

Sinner just couldnt keep a super serving level for so long, then in the 3rd he hurt his wrist a bit and his serve got even worse, Carlos change in the second set was exactly what he had to do, not feeding pace to sinner, use his variety, that forced sinner to Risk more, i see more players using that tactic against sinner, once youre the most in form player, you get chased more than you chase, thats part of tennis and the reason why its difficult to keep winning and winning, players figure out how to hurt you, you are forced to keep improving to keep winning, no high level is high enough for that, its about adapting until you retire

Very well put.

 

[StrongRule]

So Sinner beat Djokovic in AO semifinal (something nobody ever did) but couldn't deal with the 6-1 6-1 boy. Yeah, these net gen just can never be trusted.

 

[Marius_Hancu]

 

[Topspin_80]

My dog has more charisma than Djoko.

I don't know your dog, but you're probably right!

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

The way Alcaraz started hitting winners reminded me of last year. He simply took the match out of Sinner’s racquet just like he did to Djokovic last year at Wimbledon too.

Alcaraz showed me an alpha level of performance. He heard me and it was very impressive considering how well Sinner has been playing and played.

Carlos showed us that form is temporary and class is permanent. I think both Carlos and Sinner are going to win a lot and we can’t write either guy if they go through a bad slump of form. They both quality players. Great match!

 

[TheSlicer]

The way Alcaraz started hitting winners reminded me of last year. He simply took the match out of Sinner’s racquet just like he did to Djokovic last year at Wimbledon too.

Alcaraz showed me an alpha level of performance. He heard me and it was very impressive considering how well dinner has been playing and played.

Carlos showed us that form is temporary and class is permanent. I think both Carlos and Sinner are going to win a lot and we can’t write either guy if they go through a bad slump of form. They both quality players. Great match!

No, he Will have a hewiit like Career, he is just too short