India's Vikram moon lander appears to have crashed on the moon

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SPACE 6 September 2019
By Leah Crane

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Artist’s rendition of the Vikram lander deploying the Pragyan rover
ISRO/YouTube


Once again, an attempted moon landing has not gone according to plan. On 6 September, India’s Vikram lander lost contact with Earth during an attempt to land on the moon and appears to have crashed, just five months after Israel’s Beresheet spacecraft faced a similar fate. If the landing had been successful, it would have made India the fourth nation ever to land on the moon after the Soviet Union, the US, and China.

Vikram was part of the Chandrayaan 2 mission, which launched from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre in India on 22 July. The mission also includes an orbiter and a six-wheeled rover called Pragyan, which was carried inside the lander.

Most of the landing sequence went as planned, but as the lander neared the surface, just 2.1 kilometres above the ground, it started to diverge from the plan. Shortly afterward it lost communication with Earth and may not have been able to slow itself down enough to land safely. The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) is analysing the data they have now to determine exactly what happened.


The spacecraft was intended to touch down near the south pole of the moon, where no lander or rover has ever been before. This unexplored region is particularly interesting because its craters contain areas that are permanently in shadow, where water ice can remain without being blasted away by sunlight.

Water ice is important for human space flight because it can be used to make rocket fuel and support astronauts, which is why NASA’s plans to land humans on the moon in 2024 involve landing in the area.

Chandrayaan 2’s orbiter remains in orbit around the moon, where it was intended to relay data from the lander and rover back to Earth as well as taking data of its own. The orbiter itself is carrying eight scientific instruments, which will still be used to map the moon’s surface and study its atmosphere.


https://www.newscientist.com/articl...n-lander-appears-to-have-crashed-on-the-moon/
 
This broke my heart actually. Lot of support on twitter for the isro team and the PM is giving lots of words of encouragement. The team worked so hard to make something that's low cost and efficient and the last 2.1 Kms was where things went wrong. Feel gutted :(
 
Do we actually know it has crashed ?
I haven't been able to see much (domestic duties).

I am trying to find out, but for half an hour or more the PM has taken over the stage.
 
Do we actually know it has crashed ?
I haven't been able to see much (domestic duties).

I am trying to find out, but for half an hour or more the PM has taken over the stage.
Yes. The isro chief is seen crying and hugging Modi. It's so sad
 
Billions of rupees lost too! Sad! India is still a 3rd world country too! They want to be another superpower country! Wow!
(n)(n) science is never a failure. You learn and learn something new. Behind every success there have been tons of failures. Didn't Apollo crash killing a few astronauts? That's when they knew the value of O-rings. Exactly 5 months ago Israel failed in a similar moon landing mission and it is well known that India spends less than half on space missions as opposed to western nations.
 
SPACE 6 September 2019
By Leah Crane

screen-shot-2019-09-06-at-17.49.50.jpg

Artist’s rendition of the Vikram lander deploying the Pragyan rover
ISRO/YouTube


Once again, an attempted moon landing has not gone according to plan. On 6 September, India’s Vikram lander lost contact with Earth during an attempt to land on the moon and appears to have crashed, just five months after Israel’s Beresheet spacecraft faced a similar fate. If the landing had been successful, it would have made India the fourth nation ever to land on the moon after the Soviet Union, the US, and China.

Vikram was part of the Chandrayaan 2 mission, which launched from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre in India on 22 July. The mission also includes an orbiter and a six-wheeled rover called Pragyan, which was carried inside the lander.

Most of the landing sequence went as planned, but as the lander neared the surface, just 2.1 kilometres above the ground, it started to diverge from the plan. Shortly afterward it lost communication with Earth and may not have been able to slow itself down enough to land safely. The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) is analysing the data they have now to determine exactly what happened.


The spacecraft was intended to touch down near the south pole of the moon, where no lander or rover has ever been before. This unexplored region is particularly interesting because its craters contain areas that are permanently in shadow, where water ice can remain without being blasted away by sunlight.

Water ice is important for human space flight because it can be used to make rocket fuel and support astronauts, which is why NASA’s plans to land humans on the moon in 2024 involve landing in the area.

Chandrayaan 2’s orbiter remains in orbit around the moon, where it was intended to relay data from the lander and rover back to Earth as well as taking data of its own. The orbiter itself is carrying eight scientific instruments, which will still be used to map the moon’s surface and study its atmosphere.


https://www.newscientist.com/articl...n-lander-appears-to-have-crashed-on-the-moon/
Watt wee have hear iz failure two land softly frum Sabooshsian physics lessuns knot lurned frum experience: two mini samosas anne gulab jamun gorging maiks four hevvy landings.
 
We need more space exploration. I feel we have really given up on some of the exploration. Hope this does not stop them from having another go.
 
Shift a couple of hundred thousand men out of Kashmir and free up the money for space exploration ... and everyone will be happy.
 
Do countries always send unmanned craft first before trying
a manned landing? Is that how it works?
I thought they now just send unmanned crafts. I don't think there is a need or benefit in sending someone when robots can do the job.
 
I thought they now just send unmanned crafts. I don't think there is a need or benefit in sending someone when robots can do the job.

There is prestige in having a man step foot on the moon. Which country has done it besides the USA and Russia... China?

I am sure Modi wants an Indian walking on the moon.
 
There is prestige in having a man step foot on the moon. Which country has done it besides the USA and Russia... China?

I am sure Modi wants an Indian walking on the moon.
I would volunteer in an instant. I don't even want a return ticket.


But yeah, not only wuold it be faaar more expensive to send someone, but you also have to get the person back alive. In the unmanned case, I don't suppose return is necessary.
 
I would volunteer in an instant. I don't even want a return ticket.


But yeah, not only wuold it be faaar more expensive to send someone, but you also have to get the person back alive. In the unmanned case, I don't suppose return is necessary.
Actually found out that the U.S. is the only country to send a man on the moon. You may be right. Now we have left it to the robots.
But do not think having a manned mission would be significantly more expensive than unmanned.
:unsure:
The United States is the only country to have ever put people on the moon. However, Russia (the USSR), Japan, China, the European Space Agency, and India have all made visits to the moon via probes.
 
There is prestige in having a man step foot on the moon. Which country has done it besides the USA and Russia... China?
I don;t know if China has sent someone manned. But they do seem to have done a soft landing. We would have been the fourth to do a soft landing.
 
Actually found out that the U.S. is the only country to send a man on the moon. You may be right. Now we have left it to the robots.
But do not think having a manned mission would be significantly more expensive than unmanned.
:unsure:
The United States is the only country to have ever put people on the moon. However, Russia (the USSR), Japan, China, the European Space Agency, and India have all made visits to the moon via probes.
according to @sureshs , when USA sent Armstrong to the moon, he was greeted by an indian tea-seller (chai-walla) who offered him tea and samosas. But all talk about him was deleted from the tapes, so US could claim to be the first.
 
Shift a couple of hundred thousand men out of Kashmir and free up the money for space exploration ... and everyone will be happy.

Trump has no idea which side to support.
:(
US State Department stand at variance with Trump’s remark on Kashmir
“We continue to be very concerned by widespread detentions and the restrictions on the residents of the region," US State Department spokesperson Morgan Ortagus said.
 
Why is that Indian Space Head crying on Modi's shoulder?

Get a grip!
When you work day and night for 11 years on your baby it hurts. Heck our sportspersons cry when they lose one match out of thousands. This team gave up everything to do this for over a decade. It hurts, hurts bad. I am sure they will start working on a new one from tomorrow though.
 
SPACE 6 September 2019
By Leah Crane

screen-shot-2019-09-06-at-17.49.50.jpg

Artist’s rendition of the Vikram lander deploying the Pragyan rover
ISRO/YouTube


Once again, an attempted moon landing has not gone according to plan. On 6 September, India’s Vikram lander lost contact with Earth during an attempt to land on the moon and appears to have crashed, just five months after Israel’s Beresheet spacecraft faced a similar fate. If the landing had been successful, it would have made India the fourth nation ever to land on the moon after the Soviet Union, the US, and China.

Vikram was part of the Chandrayaan 2 mission, which launched from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre in India on 22 July. The mission also includes an orbiter and a six-wheeled rover called Pragyan, which was carried inside the lander.

Most of the landing sequence went as planned, but as the lander neared the surface, just 2.1 kilometres above the ground, it started to diverge from the plan. Shortly afterward it lost communication with Earth and may not have been able to slow itself down enough to land safely. The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) is analysing the data they have now to determine exactly what happened.


The spacecraft was intended to touch down near the south pole of the moon, where no lander or rover has ever been before. This unexplored region is particularly interesting because its craters contain areas that are permanently in shadow, where water ice can remain without being blasted away by sunlight.

Water ice is important for human space flight because it can be used to make rocket fuel and support astronauts, which is why NASA’s plans to land humans on the moon in 2024 involve landing in the area.

Chandrayaan 2’s orbiter remains in orbit around the moon, where it was intended to relay data from the lander and rover back to Earth as well as taking data of its own. The orbiter itself is carrying eight scientific instruments, which will still be used to map the moon’s surface and study its atmosphere.


https://www.newscientist.com/articl...n-lander-appears-to-have-crashed-on-the-moon/

do they share the same software in 737max:?)))o_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_Oo_O.........................
 
What kind of space program does India have in terms of engineering?

China basically copies Soviet design.

USA remains unique as far as successfully sending people to the moon.
 
Apparently not an entirely failed mission. Most objectives accomplished?
:unsure:

 
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As of June 2019, the moon mission has an allocated cost of ₹978 crore (approximately US$141 million) which includes ₹603 crore for space segment and ₹375 crore. For a distance of 384400 kms, the cost of the mission was a measly 0.0027 dollars a kilometer. For comparison, the apollo space mission in today's costs. That's far cheaper than taxi rates in 99% of the countries in the world :eek:
 
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