Inexpensive, arm-friendly poly?

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myke232

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Does this exist? I mean arm-friendly relative to poly strings. I recently tried a hybrid stringing using poly (luxilon big banger 125) after using full synthetic gut for many years. I like it! So I'm looking for a cheaper, arm friendly poly...
 
Im looking good comfortable cheap string too with good durabilty, good spin and control. After one week searching i found this
Weiscannon scorpion,weiscannon silverstring,tourna big hitter silver,signum pro poly plasma pure, yptp,signum pro hypertion,head lynx. All reels under 80 euro
But i dont know choose the best one.
 
Signum Pro Poly Plasma (regular or Pure) is very comfortable for a poly
Also, playability lasts a long time compared to other polys.
Performs pretty well at everything, not a huge spin string.

Topspin Cyber Blue is pretty similar to SPPPP.
 
having arm issues recently, I went down the road of trying every soft poly I could find,... like 15 or so....

bottom line, while some poly is softer than others, it’s still waaaay harsher than synthetic.

my conclusion, either go all poly (the soft poly sucks imo - less spin benefit, but still the harshness), or switch to a multi. I think lux smart was the softest I tried, but I hated it.

(in case it matters.. i’m a 4.5 that breaks poly in 8-10h on a rf97, 2-3h on very open pattern racquets)
 
myke232 said:
Does this exist? I mean arm-friendly relative to poly strings. I recently tried a hybrid stringing using poly (luxilon big banger 125) after using full synthetic gut for many years. I like it! So I'm looking for a cheaper, arm friendly poly...
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Topspin cyber flash is a soft poly that is budget friendly but plays good. Just try it at a lower tension, makes the string much better between 42-46.
 
So.... the Luxilon Big Banger 125 I'm using, how is that on the arm-friendliness scale; I have no idea, and I'm asking because I have used it a few times so far without any discomfort... I have it strung hybrid with a wilson synthetic at 48 lbs.

Also, when I use full synthetic gut my strings usually last around 2 weeks. About how much longer would the hydrid of poly/synthetic last?
 
myke232 said:
So.... the Luxilon Big Banger 125 I'm using, how is that on the arm-friendliness scale; I have no idea, and I'm asking because I have used it a few times so far without any discomfort... I have it strung hybrid with a wilson synthetic at 48 lbs.

Also, when I use full synthetic gut my strings usually last around 2 weeks. About how much longer would the hydrid of poly/synthetic last?
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I destroyed my elbow with Luxilon big banger at 50 lbs , be careful
 
SinneGOAT said:
Topspin cyber flash is a soft poly that is budget friendly but plays good. Just try it at a lower tension, makes the string much better between 42-46.
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avisar said:
Its lot of reviews that cyber flash is really stiff.
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I remember from long ago that they changed the makeup of Cyber Flash. I think it was from soft to stiff, but I'm not sure about that. Someone who remembers better should chime in.
 
myke232 said:
So.... the Luxilon Big Banger 125 I'm using, how is that on the arm-friendliness scale; I have no idea, and I'm asking because I have used it a few times so far without any discomfort... I have it strung hybrid with a wilson synthetic at 48 lbs.

Also, when I use full synthetic gut my strings usually last around 2 weeks. About how much longer would the hydrid of poly/synthetic last?
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Synthetic gut is affordable and also moderately soft - I use it in my own frames all the time. You probably won't get the same softness with a poly hybrid and definitely won't get it with a full bed of poly.

That being said, the one poly hybrid I've have great success with in my local stringing circle has been Isospeed Baseline 1.20 mains combined with a syn. gut cross - usually Gosen OGSM 16. When tensioned in the mid 50's (lbs.) this setup is about as firm as a full bed of 16 ga. syn. gut at a snug tension. Install this hybrid at a lower tension and it likely won't be anywhere as rough as a full bed of a heavier gauge poly.

Baseline is as affordable as syn. gut, but TW only sells it in full reels. I can't say I've ever strung the 1.20mm Baseline in a full bed for anybody, but I'd expect that lighter gauge to go dead rather quickly. When combined with a syn. gut cross, the bed seems to degrade at a much less drastic rate.

Do some more research and gather more feedback. Poly hybrids might not physically snap as quickly as full beds of syn. gut, but poly will typically lose its resilience after about 10-12 hours of use. That's why the pros often slug with a bed of it for maybe 40 mins. and then send it back to the stringer.

If you need arm-friendliness in your racquet/string combo, I'd say avoid poly completely. But if you're going to scratch that itch, avoid the heavier gauges. A light gauge of poly in a hybrid should be your best bet.
 
Buy in reels to reduce the cost.

Any of these in full bed:
IsoSpeed Baseline
Volkl Cyclone Tour
Weiss Canon Ultra Cable

Or Kirschbaum Proline X is on sale at TW now; only $44 for a reel!! With a good sync.gut cross, this hybrid would be inexpensive and arm friendly!!
 
I purchased a reel of Isospeed Baseline 1.20 from TW several months ago to have a thin poly string that I could put into a number of generally vintage racquets that would be played very infrequently. This is a case where you get what you pay for. It's a low grip, low launch angle, medium powered string with average tension maintenance. It probably would work best for someone just getting into the poly world from synthetic gut or multis but it is nowhere close to the playability and performance of a higher end round string like PTP, Flash, or PL Evolution.
 
How many people suggesting their favorite soft poly's have actually had a rip-roaring case of TE that got better with using that soft poly? Those are the people that should be giving recommendations.

Many arms can hold up to poly. If you have one of those arms, you probably have a skewed idea of "softness".

As a person with a history of TE/GE and a sensitive elbow to any stiffness, I'd say Cream is the only poly I can play with and find comparable to synthetic strings. Most other "soft" poly's I've tried on the recommendations of others have bothered my arm. I've heard good things about YPTA but no personal experience yet since Cream suits me well.
 
Dartagnan64 said:
How many people suggesting their favorite soft poly's have actually had a rip-roaring case of TE that got better with using that soft poly? Those are the people that should be giving recommendations.

Many arms can hold up to poly. If you have one of those arms, you probably have a skewed idea of "softness".

As a person with a history of TE/GE and a sensitive elbow to any stiffness, I'd say Cream is the only poly I can play with and find comparable to synthetic strings. Most other "soft" poly's I've tried on the recommendations of others have bothered my arm. I've heard good things about YPTA but no personal experience yet since Cream suits me well.
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I just got over one, caused by demolishing our outdoor stairs with a sledge hammer.
Played through recovery, with a full bed of Isospeed Baseline in a Prince O3 Tour OS. Felt better than a worn out gut/Isospeed in PCG 100.
I'm 90% ok now.
Switched, few days ago, to a fresh bed if gut/Iso in a Radical Ti Team. That actually feels the best.
 
Dartagnan64 said:
How many people suggesting their favorite soft poly's have actually had a rip-roaring case of TE that got better with using that soft poly? Those are the people that should be giving recommendations.
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I had my first case of TE almost 15 years ago, from the orangey SPPP. Once cured, I moved onto multi and/or Syn gut, fullbed. I have only started venture into the world of co-poly in the last few years, but I am/was extra careful on which racquet I use and the setup/tension, especially fullbed.
I had a few good sessions and local leagues sessions with low tensions of 33/31, inspired by TW Chris’ low low tension thread. Have tried on 100, 97, 95 sq” head sizes and enjoyed. I am not a string breaker but I make sure I restring more often. Ultimately I went back to fullbed of multi or Syn gut... this allows me to try a wider range/model of racquets. Lol

but - yes, you are 100% right. Poly isn’t for everyone (as much as many people disagrees... but hey..) and one needs make sure they understand the characteristics of poly strings and get it redone more Frequently.
 
Dartagnan64 said:
How many people suggesting their favorite soft poly's have actually had a rip-roaring case of TE that got better with using that soft poly? Those are the people that should be giving recommendations.

Many arms can hold up to poly. If you have one of those arms, you probably have a skewed idea of "softness".

As a person with a history of TE/GE and a sensitive elbow to any stiffness, I'd say Cream is the only poly I can play with and find comparable to synthetic strings. Most other "soft" poly's I've tried on the recommendations of others have bothered my arm. I've heard good things about YPTA but no personal experience yet since Cream suits me well.
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We have the same sensibility (on the elbow), i never tried yet a softer poly. To be honest, i'm scared to try.
Did you also try the ghost wire ?
I'm about to order some sets today, it's gonna be velocity on main, but i don't know if I put cream on crosses, ghost wire, or YPTA ?

Main priority : confort, and play tennis ! Pain Free !
Priority number 2 = control and ton of spin
 
tennisintheeighties said:
We have the same sensibility (on the elbow), i never tried yet a softer poly. To be honest, i'm scared to try.
Did you also try the ghost wire ?
I'm about to order some sets today, it's gonna be velocity on main, but i don't know if I put cream on crosses, ghost wire, or YPTA ?

Main priority : confort, and play tennis ! Pain Free !
Priority number 2 = control and ton of spin
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I tried Ghostwire and it was Ok to play with if I didn't keep it in the frame too long. So in the end I didn't move over to it despite liking it's performance better than Cream. I can keep Cream in until it breaks and no elbow issues. Ghostwire is just at the limit of what my arm will tolerate. If I played 2X a week I'm sure I could use Ghostwire, but I tend to play 5-6 times a week and for that I need more resilience.
 
Dartagnan64 said:
I tried Ghostwire and it was Ok to play with if I didn't keep it in the frame too long. So in the end I didn't move over to it despite liking it's performance better than Cream. I can keep Cream in until it breaks and no elbow issues. Ghostwire is just at the limit of what my arm will tolerate. If I played 2X a week I'm sure I could use Ghostwire, but I tend to play 5-6 times a week and for that I need more resilience.
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Ok thank you, it's important to me to have some testimony from tennis player like you, with strong elbow issues too.
Would like to play more, around 3/4 times / week when i will be done with shockwave.
Thank you !
 
Dartagnan64 said:
I tried Ghostwire and it was Ok to play with if I didn't keep it in the frame too long. So in the end I didn't move over to it despite liking it's performance better than Cream. I can keep Cream in until it breaks and no elbow issues. Ghostwire is just at the limit of what my arm will tolerate. If I played 2X a week I'm sure I could use Ghostwire, but I tend to play 5-6 times a week and for that I need more resilience.
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Please post your thoughts if you ever try YPTA; I find YPTA feels like it’s an inherently softer string than Cream, especially comparing both when new, but as a counterpoint Cream feels like it has a higher percentage of shock absorbent material - presumably why some here have described it as ‘rubbery’ - which might mean that it ultimately offers superior arm protection in comparison with YPTA. I’ve been ‘hybridising’ these with VCT mains for some time now; looking forward to trying Hyper G Soft as a main with both.
 
Tourna actually makes some pretty decent strings. They’re not expensive and you can buy a reel and not break the bank. I would go UP a gauge though. If you want 16 choose 17, I’ve found the diameter to be a bit thicker than advertised.
 
Dartagnan64 said:
How many people suggesting their favorite soft poly's have actually had a rip-roaring case of TE that got better with using that soft poly? Those are the people that should be giving recommendations.

Many arms can hold up to poly. If you have one of those arms, you probably have a skewed idea of "softness".

As a person with a history of TE/GE and a sensitive elbow to any stiffness, I'd say Cream is the only poly I can play with and find comparable to synthetic strings. Most other "soft" poly's I've tried on the recommendations of others have bothered my arm. I've heard good things about YPTA but no personal experience yet since Cream suits me well.
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I didn't realize he had full blown TE, was that mentioned? Plus it seemed like @myke232 intended on doing a hybrid. But I hear you, and you raise a valid point.
 
Johnny505 said:
Gone down the route of trying to find a softer poly when I first experienced golfers elbow a few years ago, gave up after trying numerous alternative & lower tensions but still gave me pain. Now settled on using the original co poly, Head Sonic Pro Edge + multi with new frame, no pain and good value/playability for the price.
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It's been mentioned before, but just in case: Head Sonic Pro (non-edge) = Isospeed Baseline. Iso makes the Sonic for Head, it just gets branded differently.
 
loosegroove said:
I didn't realize he had full blown TE, was that mentioned? Plus it seemed like @myke232 intended on doing a hybrid. But I hear you, and you raise a valid point.
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Definitely going hydrid, poly + syn gut. I am currently using luxilon big banger with a wilson comfort at 48 lbs and it feels really nice :)
 
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