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just string a bit lower
I didn't realize he had full blown TE, was that mentioned? Plus it seemed like @myke232 intended on doing a hybrid. But I hear you, and you raise a valid point.
Kirshbaum Evolution is an awesome poly that is arm and wallet friendly.
I didn't think it really mattered if the OP had TE. He wants an arm friendly poly. And he's likely to ge the arm friendliest advice from those that have suffered.
All i know is that every string was arm friendly to me until I got TE from Alu power in a Pure Drive. Then I had to go through the painful trial and error of trying to find a comfy set up. So I learned a lot about the stiffness and resilience of strings. But before I had TE i knew nothing. I think if you haven't had arm problems you probably are much the same where everything seems fine.... until it isn't.
I don't think any of Kirschbaum's strings are arm friendly. They all are prestretched to take all their resilience and elasticity out of them. My arm didn't tolerate Max Power, Pro Line 2 or Evolution.
I guess everyone‘s experience is different. I think HyperG Soft recommended by Nostradamus is pretty soft feeling also - I play with the 18g version. TWU has stiffness of HGS16L at 172 and PTP17 at 188. I haven’t tried PTP myself, but based on the TWU spec, it is hard to imagine that PTP will feel less harsh than HGS of comparable gauge.I saw someone suggested Hyper G Soft but it is harsher and more expensive than let's say Yonex Poly Tour Pro which is just a treat. Spinny, comfortable but not soft.
the title of this thread is about inexpensive poly. neither hyperg or ptp arent cheap poly by nobodies standard?I guess everyone‘s experience is different. I think HyperG Soft recommended by Nostradamus is pretty soft feeling also - I play with the 18g version. TWU has stiffness of HGS16L at 172 and PTP17 at 188. I haven’t tried PTP myself, but based on the TWU spec, it is hard to imagine that PTP will feel less harsh than HGS of comparable gauge.
Polytour pro always used to cost around 70 euros for 200 meters. I would still find that cheap. This year prices seem to have gone up though..the title of this thread is about inexpensive poly. neither hyperg or ptp arent cheap poly by nobodies standard?
Just agree with that.Nobody is addressing an important aspect: the age of the players.
Seniors cannot play with poly.
Their joints would not resist.
If you are young, go ahead.
Not as soft as Cream, Volkl V Star, and some others, but I still think Evolution falls in the more comfortable spectrum of poly. Way easier on my wrist than many of the usual suspects like Cyclone, Hyper G, Black Code, Tour Bite, yada, yada. And I think it works pretty well in a hybrid.
I’ve just bought a reel of YPTP from the UK for £59 (66€) including shipment to Brazil. It is still possible to find it for affordable pricesPolytour pro always used to cost around 70 euros for 200 meters. I would still find that cheap. This year prices seem to have gone up though..
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Nobody is addressing an important aspect: the age of the players.
Seniors cannot play with poly.
Their joints would not resist.
If you are young, go ahead.
70+at what age shall I consider myself senior and switch from poly to multi?
20at what age shall I consider myself senior and switch from poly to multi?
How sharp are the edges on Square X? Slick?YTEX Square X or Quadro Twist strung low.
They are sharp. I used it in a v7 Blade 98 18x20 and it went dead before the edges dulled. I liked Quadro Twist a little better than the Square X.How sharp are the edges on Square X? Slick?
Seriously, I tried poly only once for mains, 10 years ago when I was 45, and it was horrible. My elbow hurt after playing one week, and had to stop for one month.
What did you like about the Quadro Twist more? How did either compare to Volkl V Square?They are sharp. I used it in a v7 Blade 98 18x20 and it went dead before the edges dulled. I liked Quadro Twist a little better than the Square X.
where are you based OP? if you have an easy access to Pro's Pro products - the Red Devil and Eruption are pretty soft co-polys...Does this exist? I mean arm-friendly relative to poly strings. I recently tried a hybrid stringing using poly (luxilon big banger 125) after using full synthetic gut for many years. I like it! So I'm looking for a cheaper, arm friendly poly...
I can’t compare to the Volkl string. Quadro Twist had more spin, a little better durability and slightly more pop. I always string between 47-49#, no matter the string. I have moved to YTEX as they are comparable to the strings I was using, but at a better price for the rec player.What did you like about the Quadro Twist more? How did either compare to Volkl V Square?
Thank youI can’t compare to the Volkl string. Quadro Twist had more spin, a little better durability and slightly more pop. I always string between 47-49#, no matter the string. I have moved to YTEX as they are comparable to the strings I was using, but at a better price for the rec player.
Seriously, I tried poly only once for mains, 10 years ago when I was 45, and it was horrible. My elbow hurt after playing one week, and had to stop for one month.
I immediately switched back.
Not everyone has such a weak spelling.Not everyone has such a week elbow.
Not everyone has such a weak spelling.
What did you like about the Quadro Twist more? How did either compare to Volkl V Square?
Topspin cyber flash is a soft poly that is budget friendly but plays good. Just try it at a lower tension, makes the string much better between 42-46.
ThanksJust wanted to offer a different opinion. I tried Quadro Twist earlier last year and did not like the string. I found it to not have good grip on the ball like a shaped string would provide, and that its best attributes were high power levels and good comfort. I wrote about it here:
Ideally I would like to find a LOW powered, HIGH spin, HIGH comfort string. What I have found with shaped strings are that they are either low powered OR comfortable, but not both. Of course I haven't tried all the strings, but that's been my experience with shaped strings.Just wanted to offer a different opinion. I tried Quadro Twist earlier last year and did not like the string. I found it to not have good grip on the ball like a shaped string would provide, and that its best attributes were high power levels and good comfort. I wrote about it here:
I am not a native English speaker, and I did not know that my elbow was specially weak until today.Not everyone is native English speakingbut because you have a weak elbow and cant use poly, is not the same as everyone else cant use poly even as a senior player.
Ideally I would like to find a LOW powered, HIGH spin, HIGH comfort string. What I have found with shaped strings are that they are either low powered OR comfortable, but not both. Of course I haven't tried all the strings, but that's been my experience with shaped strings.
How old are you? Probably younger than 40.Not everyone is native English speakingbut because you have a weak elbow and cant use poly, is not the same as everyone else cant use poly even as a senior player.
Not everyone is native English speakingbut because you have a weak elbow and cant use poly, is not the same as everyone else cant use poly even as a senior player.
Holy $*it man! Where do you play? Just curious....that's indeed a lot of money to play tennis.As someone that spent $30,000 in initiation fees to join a tennis club...
I hope courts come with Madrid Open ball girls ...Holy $*it man! Where do you play? Just curious....that's indeed a lot of money to play tennis.
Holy $*it man! Where do you play? Just curious....that's indeed a lot of money to play tennis.
There's a club here in Vancouver, the only club with indoor and clay courts in the city, I think it's around 25K/30K, I called them because i wanted to play exclusively in Clay Courts, better for my old knees (said Kent Carlsson ! LOL ! http://plazbovo.free.fr/images/chronopen/1988/1988-rg-carlsson-0.jpgTrue. Not everyone will die of lung cancer if they smoke either. Still doesn't make smoking a smart choice and it doesn't weaken the recommendation to avoid poly if your tendons are older.
If you are older, you have to really examine what you want out of tennis and make sure your equipment matches.
If you are still trying to ascend to a particular level and then once you've reached it, rest on your laurels, then go ahead and pound away at your body.
If you are in tennis for social aspects, friendly competition, and life long enjoyment, then I'd suggest being very cautious with your equipment.
As someone that spent $30,000 in initiation fees to join a tennis club, I'm not going to take a lot of physical risks that might end my tennis playing days prematurely. I still want to be out there in my 70's having fun with the guys.
Holy $*it man! Where do you play? Just curious....that's indeed a lot of money to play tennis.
There's a club here in Vancouver, the only club with indoor and clay courts in the city, I think it's around 25K/30K, I called them because i wanted to play exclusively in Clay Courts, better for my old knees (said Kent Carlsson ! LOL ! http://plazbovo.free.fr/images/chronopen/1988/1988-rg-carlsson-0.jpg
I called this club a few months ago, Vancouver Lawn Tennis, I know Jericho in Kitsilano, it's probably in this range too.Would this happen to be Jericho? Our club has a relationship with them so that we can play as guests at each other's facilities. Would love to play on some clay courts.
I called this club a few months ago, Vancouver Lawn Tennis, I know Jericho in Kitsilano, it's probably in this range too.
Hope the border will reopen soon !
Damn, that's worse than Royal Vancouver Yacht Club!?!As someone that spent $30,000 in initiation fees to join a tennis club, I'm not going to take a lot of physical risks that might end my tennis playing days prematurely. I still want to be out there in my 70's having fun with the guys.
I hope courts come with Madrid Open ball girls ...
Would this happen to be Jericho? Our club has a relationship with them so that we can play as guests at each other's facilities. Would love to play on some clay courts.
Oh, I think that prior to it being cancelled, there was an ITF seniors tournament there that I was considering having a go at. Without having a clay court to practice on, I would have gone in stone cold but I figure the cost of the tournament is the same as a lesson so why not.
Holy $*it man! Where do you play? Just curious....that's indeed a lot of money to play tennis.
That's funny, I didn"t knew you lived in Van too !No. Van Lawn. Jericho doesn't have clay but Van Lawn does so that was my number one reason to select it over Jericho. Jericho has a great view though.
Yes sorry for that.This thread has been hijacked and derailed.
Mods will be renaming the thread from "Inexpensive, Arm-friendly Poly" to "Expensive, Marriage-unfriendly Club"