Interesting experience with chip & charge

[pistolpeege]

Hi everyone,

A regular opponent of mine is a guy who plays well all the time. He's the kind of guy you like to play when you're on because he hits the ball solid, but if you're off he will destroy you.

So the other day my gameplan was to chip & charge on 100% of his second serves.

Even though I dumped a lot of them in the net, probably rushing them a little, I did notice a few double faults creeping in to his game.

I think it really puts a lot of pressure on the server, any tips for technique?

Should one stop, hit and rush, or chip on the move??

Thanks in advance

Pistol

 

[North]

I like to chip & charge and also try to do it on most oppponents' 2nd serves. I used to think I'd have to keep moving - you know, not really stop - to make the shot. Of course, I've dumped a lot in the net, too, and always wondered what was wrong with my timing or movement or whatever. Then I got to see a video of me playing a while back and looked closely at the times when I C&C'd. The times when I made good shots I actually did stop, for even a split second, to make the shot and then continued to the net. The majority of attempts, where I hit into the net, I didn't stop at all and just hit still on the run. After that I tried to be aware of that split second stop to hit. It was barely perceptible at first (also there's no split step after) but with practice I am more aware of it. It's also hard to time if you think about it. For me it just took a lot of practice until the movement became automatic. Some days I still miss a lot of them - lol.

It does put a lot of pressure on the opponent. All of a sudden, there you are right in their face across the net with the ball about to come back at them a lot sooner. Many people simply don't know how to respond to this tactic. Keep at it!

 

[Mahboob Khan]

Well, there are two methods that can be used:

1. Chip and charge

2. Rip and charge.

1. Chip and charge: Normally it is done via a 1-handed slice BH. You slice as you move forward making the stroke dynamic. This enables you to get to the net fast and takes away opponent's reaction time.

2. Rip and charge: This is done via a windshield wiper forehand and this can also be done on forward move. The idea is not to give any extra recovery time to your opponent!

If you do it routinely against the second serve, that will put added pressure on the server to do more with the second serve and double fault. Obviously, along the way you will miss some approaches but in order to gain something you have to lose something!

 

[Marius_Hancu]

Edberg site

check this site, you should be able to find examples from one of the greats:

http://edberg.free.fr/videos/videos_volley.htm

 

[Thanatos]

Hi everyone,

A regular opponent of mine is a guy who plays well all the time. He's the kind of guy you like to play when you're on because he hits the ball solid, but if you're off he will destroy you.

So the other day my gameplan was to chip & charge on 100% of his second serves.

Even though I dumped a lot of them in the net, probably rushing them a little, I did notice a few double faults creeping in to his game.

I think it really puts a lot of pressure on the server, any tips for technique?

Should one stop, hit and rush, or chip on the move??

Thanks in advance

Pistol

CnC is an effective strategy if you are comfortable at the net. You need to learn when to CnC and when to stay back.

You should CnC if:
1. Your opponent has a weak serve (1st or 2nd).
2. If you can consistently CnC to your opponnent's weak side (ie. backhand).
3. If you can keep the ball deep forcing your opponnent to hit off his back feet.

You shouldn't CnC if:
1. Your opponnent has a good serve (1st and 2nd).
2. You can't consistently place the ball to your opponnent's weak side.
3. If you can't keep the ball deep.

Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule.

I play with these 4.5 guys sometimes and their serve is crazy! I tried to CnC and if the ball isn't place well, then I'm going to get passed or a lobbed. What I end up doing is staying back and wait patiently for a short ball to approach.

CnC works well against junk ballers. You know, the guys that hit these crazy spins on their groundstrokes or dinkers. It stops them in their tracks.

The best strategy is to baseline and CnC well. This gives you the option to switch strategy when your game is not going well.

 

[Thanatos]

CnC is an effective strategy if you are comfortable at the net. You need to learn when to CnC and when to stay back.

You should CnC if:
1. Your opponent has a weak serve (1st or 2nd).
2. If you can consistently CnC to your opponnent's weak side (ie. backhand).
3. If you can keep the ball deep forcing your opponnent to hit off his back feet.

You shouldn't CnC if:
1. Your opponnent has a good serve (1st and 2nd).
2. You can't consistently place the ball to your opponnent's weak side.
3. If you can't keep the ball deep.

Of course, there are always exceptions to the rule.

I play with these 4.5 guys sometimes and their serve is crazy! I tried to CnC and if the ball isn't place well, then I'm going to get passed or a lobbed. What I end up doing is staying back and wait patiently for a short ball to approach.

CnC works well against junk ballers. You know, the guys that hit these crazy spins on their groundstrokes or dinkers. It stops them in their tracks.

The best strategy is to baseline and CnC well. This gives you the option to switch strategy when your game is not going well.

I forgot to add, the best way to beat a CnC is to have a good 1st\2nd serve and lob.

I think that's one of the reason why Tim Henman hasn't been too successful lately. A lot of the pros have good serves and better passing shots or what I refer to as a
2-shot passing shot (the first passing shot is to setup a weak volley from the netter and the second passing-shot is your winner).