Interesting Nadal grass court statistic

[Centre Court]

Federer has a 64% win record against top 10 players at Wimbledon
Nadal has an 80% win record against top 10 players at Wimbledon


Judging by this, If Nadal can actually not get knocked out by the likes of a Rosol, Darcy or Brown like performance, if he faces good competition he has every chance of going deep this year, or even winning

 

[NatF]

Federer has a 64% win record against top 10 players at Wimbledon
Nadal has an 80% win record against top 10 players at Wimbledon


Judging by this, If Nadal can actually not get knocked out by the likes of a Rosal, Darcy or Brown like performance, if he faces good competition he has every chance of going deep this year, or even winning

Judging by this Nadal rarely makes it far enough to lose to top 10 players.

 

[Centre Court]

Judging by this Nadal rarely makes it far enough to lose to top 10 players.

That's what I was saying though, if he can somehow beat the guys earlier on then he is dangerous

 

[TheAssassin]

Federer almost always makes it to top 10 players at Wimbledon while Nadal is busy getting through the players with triple digits in their ranking.

 

[Tatenda]

Federer almost always makes it to top 10 players at Wimbledon while Nadal is busy getting through the players with triple digits in their ranking.

He made 5 Wimbledon finals in a row
and failed to make better than fourth round in last 5 years
#newdimension

 

[Get A Grip]

Federer has a 64% win record against top 10 players at Wimbledon
Nadal has an 80% win record against top 10 players at Wimbledon


Judging by this, If Nadal can actually not get knocked out by the likes of a Rosol, Darcy or Brown like performance, if he faces good competition he has every chance of going deep this year, or even winning

Wow! Thanks for that. Very nice of you to cite that.
Nadal at Wimb this year will be a great unknown, till the final stages. Of course as the grass gets worn down, the surface is also more to his liking.

 

[Get A Grip]

Federer almost always makes it to top 10 players at Wimbledon while Nadal is busy getting through the players with triple digits in their ranking.

But Fed loses more often to top ten players there! Pay better attention to the post!

 

[TheAssassin]

But Fed loses more often to top ten players there! Pay better attention to the post!

I am aware his winning percentage against top 10 is lower. But he went far to meet them so much more often as well.

 

[NatF]

That's what I was saying though, if he can somehow beat the guys earlier on then he is dangerous

But if he met a top 10 player at the same stage he was busy losing to Rosol, Darcis, Brown etc...he'd have a worse record no? When was the last time he even played a top 10 player on grass - 2011. Basically all those 11 matches were from 2006-2011, a 5 year stretch. What was Federer's top 10 win loss from 03-07 when he won 65 matches undefeated.

 

[Neil_Fedfan]

Federer is 15-5 (75%) against top 10 opponents at Wimbledon and three of those losses were in 2014/15/16.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=ACareerqqB2DWimbledonqqITop_10qq

Nadal is 6-3 (66.66%) against top 10 opponents at Wimbledon.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RafaelNadal&f=ACareerqqB2DWimbledonqqITop_10qq

OP, where did you get your stats from?

 

[MajesticMoose]

Here's another interesting grass court statistic

2 < 7

 

[AceSalvo]

Federer has a 64% win record against top 10 players at Wimbledon
Nadal has an 80% win record against top 10 players at Wimbledon

Decimal defeated 9 top 10's at Wimbledon in his entire career.

WoW. Scintillating stuff.

 

[Neil_Fedfan]

I am aware his winning percentage against top 10 is lower. But he went far to meet them so much more often as well.

Not true.
Federer: 15-5 (75%)
Nadal: 6-3 (66%)

 

[TheAssassin]

Not true.
Federer: 15-5 (75%)
Nadal: 6-3 (66%)

So the statistic posted by OP is false?

 

[Neil_Fedfan]

So the statistic posted by OP is false?

Federer is 15-5 (75%) against top 10 opponents at Wimbledon and three of those losses were in 2014/15/16.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=ACareerqqB2DWimbledonqqITop_10qq

Nadal is 6-3 (66.66%) against top 10 opponents at Wimbledon.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RafaelNadal&f=ACareerqqB2DWimbledonqqITop_10qq

OP, where did you get your stats from?

 

[MichaelNadal]

Decimal defeated 9 top 10's at Wimbledon in his entire career.

WoW. Scintillating stuff.

And you beat how many on the lawns yourself?

 

[BeatlesFan]

Here's another interesting grass court statistic

2 < 7

 

[Gazelle]

I was very surprised by the stats given by OP. I was wondering who all those top 10 players were who managed to beat Roger.

Of course the stats were wrong.

 

[Tennis_Hands]

So, now the ************* creates fake news?

Where is octrollina when you need it?

 

[abmk]

So, now the ************* creates fake news?

Where is octrollina when you need it?

you mean alternative facts, don't you ?

 

[falstaff78]

I suspect other people might already have tennis-abstracted this weird thread into oblivion. In case not

Roger vs. top 10 at Wimbledon: 15-5
Rafa vs. top 10 at Wimbledon: 6-3

Roger vs. top 5 at Wimbledon: 9-4
Rafa vs. top 5 at Wimbledon: 4-3

DAFUQ OP? 0/10

@Centre Court

 

[Tennis_Hands]

I suspect other people might already have tennis-abstracted this weird thread into oblivion. In case not

Roger vs. top 10 at Wimbledon: 15-5
Rafa vs. top 10 at Wimbledon: 6-3

Roger vs. top 5 at Wimbledon: 9-4
Rafa vs. top 5 at Wimbledon: 4-3

DAFUQ OP? 0/10

@Centre Court

Eagerly awaiting the excuse for such an obvious falsification.

 

[zagor]

Federer is 15-5 (75%) against top 10 opponents at Wimbledon and three of those losses were in 2014/15/16.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RogerFederer&f=ACareerqqB2DWimbledonqqITop_10qq

Nadal is 6-3 (66.66%) against top 10 opponents at Wimbledon.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RafaelNadal&f=ACareerqqB2DWimbledonqqITop_10qq

OP, where did you get your stats from?

Pulled from his butt, copying his idol.

Still, adjusted for injury Nadal is actually 9-0 (100%) against top 10 players at Wimbledon so the OP may have a point afterall. Very impressive stat for the Nadal.

 

[clayqueen]

Nadal always starts slowly at Wimbledon probably because he plays so many matches on clay before he gets there that it take a while to adjust his whole psyche and movement on grass. I remember his 1st round match against Gulbis in 2008 when he couldn't return serve in the 1st set which he lost 57, after that, he worked something out and took the match in 4 sets going on to beat Fed in the greatest match ever played to win the title. In 2010 he had problems against Petzchner and Haase in the early rounds and he also won the title that year.

If they played a RR formula like they do at the YE exho at the O2, who knows, Nadal could still have won Wimbledon in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015.

 

[abmk]

Nadal always starts slowly at Wimbledon probably because he plays so many matches on clay before he gets there that it take a while to adjust his whole psyche and movement on grass. I remember his 1st round match against Gulbis in 2008 when he couldn't return serve in the 1st set which he lost 57, after that, he worked something out and took the match in 4 sets going on to beat Fed in the greatest match ever played to win the title. In 2010 he had problems against Petzchner and Haase in the early rounds and he also won the title that year.

If they played a RR formula like they do at the YE exho at the O2, who knows, Nadal could still have won Wimbledon in 2012, 2013, 2014 and 2015.

yeah, because fed/murray/djoko were sleeping in 12,13,14,15 to let rafa win in a RR format..

LOL, you are delusional ^ infinity.

Nadal lost to 100+ ranked players because he wasn't good enough on grass at that time. Deal with it.

the 2008 part is hilarious as well, considering that was the only time he won Queens ( beating Karlovic, Roddick, Djokovic). He was well adjusted on grass by the time wimby rolled around.

 

[clayqueen]

yeah, because fed/murray/djoko were sleeping in 12,13,14,15 to let rafa win in a RR format..

LOL, you are delusional ^ infinity.

Nadal lost to 100+ ranked players because he wasn't good enough on grass at that time. Deal with it.

the 2008 part is hilarious as well, considering that was the only time he won Queens ( beating Karlovic, Roddick, Djokovic). He was well adjusted on grass by the time wimby rolled around.

What's hilarious in saying in a RR you can win the title even if you lose your first match like in the WTF.

 

[abmk]

What's hilarious in saying in a RR you can win the title even if you lose your first match like in the WTF.

and yet nadal can't win it , even once.

even more hilarious, no ?

 

[AceSalvo]

And you beat how many on the lawns yourself?

Such a brilliantly "dense" attack. But I didn't expect any more than that from a petulant child that has the urge to spam the forum with toon images.

Next time ask OP to include me as the topic of discussion.

 

[MichaelNadal]

Such a brilliantly "dense" attack. But I didn't expect any more than that from a petulant child that has the urge to spam the forum with toon images.

Next time ask OP to include me as the topic of discussion.

Lol
1. it's not dense, I see you have no answer for so gracefully knocking something you couldn't acheive with 40 dreams.
2. Nice reply, you stay pressed now next time tell me how much I really bother you
3. I can spam the forum by slaying you if you desire instead

 

[Rafa the King]

He has lost to a Top-10er twice (Rog 2x)
Who has he beaten though?
Murray 2011, Fish 2011, Murray 2010, Soderling 2010, Roger 2008, Djokovic 2007, Berdych 2007 and need one more to make 80%
Who am I missing? Murray 08? Baghy 06?

 

[falstaff78]

He has lost to a Top-10er twice (Rog 2x)
Who has he beaten though?
Murray 2011, Fish 2011, Murray 2010, Soderling 2010, Roger 2008, Djokovic 2007, Berdych 2007 and need one more to make 80%
Who am I missing? Murray 08? Baghy 06?

def:
djoko 07
fed 08
soderling 10
murray 10
fish 11
murray 11


def by:
fed 06
fed 07
djok 11

that's 6-3

berdych 2007 was ranked 11.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RafaelNadal&f=ACareerqqDWimbledonqqITop_10qq

 

[Rafa the King]

def:
djoko 07
fed 08
soderling 10
murray 10
fish 11
murray 11


def by:
fed 06
fed 07
djok 11

that's 6-3

berdych 2007 was ranked 11.

http://www.tennisabstract.com/cgi-bin/player.cgi?p=RafaelNadal&f=ACareerqqDWimbledonqqITop_10qq

Oops, forgot 2011
But wouldn't this mean that this thread is false as Rafa is 67% against top 10?

 

[Centre Court]

My bad I found the stats on another tennis site and assumed they were correct !

 

[Shaolin]

Another interesting Nadal grass court statistic….

He usually finishes his matches with an ace.

 

[falstaff78]

Oops, forgot 2011
But wouldn't this mean that this thread is false as Rafa is 67% against top 10?

yep as discussed above thread is BS

roger is 15-5 vs. top 10

 

[Zoolander]

If Facegoogle used their stupid fake-news-killing algorithms for acually killing fake news threads instead of suppressing inconvenient truths, honest law-abiding posters here would never be deceived by vicious agenda driven pro-Nadal propaganda like this....... i feel violated.

 

[Tennisanity]

Wow! Thanks for that. Very nice of you to cite that.

Is it still very nice and Wow worthy?

 

[Feather]

and yet nadal can't win it , even once.

even more hilarious, no ?

LOL

 

[E36BMWM3]

Nadal will easily make it to the second week @ Wimby AND to the surprise of many, win the whole thing as well. If he does, he's a lock for the US Open... Nadal's on the hunt this year, and he's healthy AF. You heard it here first!!!

 

[Agassifan]

Judging by this Nadal rarely makes it far enough to lose to top 10 players.

Yep

 

[kandamrgam]

My bad I found the stats on another tennis site and assumed they were correct !

I think OP meant grass as a whole not just Wimbledon. On grass vs top 10,

Nadal - 73%
Federer - 65%

Correct me if I'm wrong. Not a useful stat anyway.

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[MichaelNadal]

Nadal will easily make it to the second week @ Wimby AND to the surprise of many, win the whole thing as well. If he does, he's a lock for the US Open... Nadal's on the hunt this year, and he's healthy AF. You heard it here first!!!

I hope ur right Bro-town.

 

[falstaff78]

I think OP meant grass as a whole not just Wimbledon. On grass vs top 10,

Nadal - 73%
Federer - 65%

Correct me if I'm wrong. Not a useful stat anyway.

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The stat itself is correct. But you are right there's a bit of Simpson's paradox going on...

Roger top 10 wins on grass = 19
Rafa top 10 wins on grass = 8

...some recency bias...

Roger top 10 wins on grass since 2012 = 6
Rafa top 10 wins on grass since 2012 = 0

...and some age bias

Roger top 10 record on grass at age 31 = 13-4
Rafa top 10 record on grass at age 31 = 8-3

 

[WYK]

Judging by this Nadal rarely makes it far enough to lose to top 10 players.

Wimbledon W (2008, 2010)

He might make another decima shortly here - 10 years since he won wimby.

 

[NatF]

Wimbledon W (2008, 2010)

He might make another decima shortly here - 10 years since he won wimby.

Nadal was a force on grass from 06-11. He might be able to capture something rewemvling great form this year. But the ops stat is still meaningless

 

[Goosehead]

that rafa gif is mental..4 defeats to 4 players outside top100 and all 4 matches end with an ace against rafa.