@Grapplesnake USA Official
Thanks!
Also, do you know why the thicker gauge is 1.29mm instead of the typical 1.30mm?
Curious about the reasoning behind that.
Sure. Two reasons. The first one is the very abrasive feel that this thing will have in your hand. That works best, in the machinery that we have, up to 1.29 millimeters. With 1.30 it would’ve been difficult to achieve the texture, even though it’s not a texture as it’s commonly referred to on “rough” or indented polyester strings. Maybe I’ll start calling it the surface.

Also, we didn’t want it to be too heavy. The string is already a bit heavier than normal as it is due to the metals, so we felt that 1.29 was great for the thicker gauge.

For the 1.25, we didn’t have the limitation with the machinery, and we wanted to maintain good durability, so we left it at that.

As you might have noticed already, we are not that into the thinner, sub-1.25 gauges, simply because we manufacture our strings for professional use, we test them with Pros, and we focus on that. That being said, we are getting some feedback requesting thinner gauges of Sniper and M8, and it’s in the list of things to do later on in the future if we can.
 

Automatix

Legend
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As you might have noticed already, we are not that into the thinner, sub-1.25 gauges, simply because we manufacture our strings for professional use, we test them with Pros, and we focus on that. That being said, we are getting some feedback requesting thinner gauges of Sniper and M8, and it’s in the list of things to do later on in the future if we can.
I agree with @Casper777 and to be honest I find this reasoning slightly questionable..
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think your main source of income are rec players simply because pros have contracts and get their equipment for free or at significant discounts.
If the average Joe doesn't buy enough of your equipment you have no money to sponsor players other than give them equipment for free or at significant discounts.
Except for Babolat gut and Luxilon strings I can't recall examples of strings so sought after that players would buy them when they had the option of getting something free from their sponsor.
But that's just my 2 cents...
 

MaiTai

Rookie
How much will a set and reel of Paradox Pro gonna cost ? I’ve read it’s sub 200 for a 150m reel but how much sub 200 ? xD
 
I agree with @Casper777 and to be honest I find this reasoning slightly questionable..
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think your main source of income are rec players simply because pros have contracts and get their equipment for free or at significant discounts.
If the average Joe doesn't buy enough of your equipment you have no money to sponsor players other than give them equipment for free or at significant discounts.
Except for Babolat gut and Luxilon strings I can't recall examples of strings so sought after that players would buy them when they had the option of getting something free from their sponsor.
But that's just my 2 cents...
Oh, I agree, and that’s why we offer 1.25. Thinner gauges are also a possibility and we are certainly not against is. It’s just not the way we initially design and test our strings. To me, 1.25 is the sweet spot for rec players, but there’s certainly demand for thinner diameters.

Anecdotally, we’ve had Pros decide to go with M8 or Sniper when they could’ve gotten Luxilon or Babolat for free, plus money. It just brought a smile to my face when you said that.
 
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How much will a set and reel of Paradox Pro gonna cost ? I’ve read it’s sub 200 for a 150m reel but how much sub 200 ? xD
Still running some numbers here. Paradox Pro will be our most expensive string to make by a long shot, and will also have the smallest profit margin out of any model due to the fact that I personally don’t want it to cost players too much. It’s a factor or difficulty for us to deal with when creating something totally new. I’m against passing all that burden to the customers.

I am not quite sure yet, but I think it will be in the $17 and $180 area.
 

Automatix

Legend
Oh, I agree, and that’s why we offer 1.25. Thinner gauges are also a possibility and we are certainly not against is. It’s just not the way we initially design and test our strings.

Anecdotally, we’ve had Pros decide to go with M8 or Sniper when they could’ve gotten Luxilon or Babolat for free, plus money. It just brought a smile to my face when you said that.
That's the best recommendation that is IMHO.
 
What are the main differences between m8 and tour sniper?
Mostly the feel. That’s the biggest difference. M8 likes being strung low. They are both control-oriented and relatively low powered. They both hold tension well. The profile is slightly different with sniper being pentagonal and M8 octagonal, but this is not that relevant. What’s more relevant is that M8 gives you more SnapBack and pocketing, which you will notice as added spin potential, while retaining lots of control. Sniper is the most control-oriented of the two. Hope this helps!
 
Mostly the feel. That’s the biggest difference. M8 likes being strung low. They are both control-oriented and relatively low powered. They both hold tension well. The profile is slightly different with sniper being pentagonal and M8 octagonal, but this is not that relevant. What’s more relevant is that M8 gives you more SnapBack and pocketing, which you will notice as added spin potential, while retaining lots of control. Sniper is the most control-oriented of the two. Hope this helps!
I think this makes them sound too similar, I don't really care about tour sniper for my style but I'm addicted to tour m8. Snapback & spin by far tour m8, unique ball pocketing and thud feeling also tour m8, power tour m8 has more, color tour m8 army man green over silver anyday! Tour sniper shines purely in low powered control and super accuracy, most accurate string I ever used followed by razor code I guess.
 
Hello! M8 is a fantastic string, with good snapback, very little notching, great feel, not firm, but with tour level stability, octagonal for better bite, but with soft edges for good launch consistency. To me, it's as good as it gets for a poly.

With Paradox Pro, as you probably read, we have added new materials, new metals, which provide the string with same if not better stability, precision, a little more spin potential, and all of this while maximizing completely opposite characteristics to these strengths, such as softness for comfort, roundness for even better launch consistency, and a significant more direct feel. On a normal string, there would be a compromise to give stability at the expense of comfort, or give feel at the expense of stability. With Paradox, you give on one end, but don't have to take on the other. You can maximize different positive attributes, which is why it's so unique.

Does one string fit everyone? Of course not, and that's why we offer different models. There are different preferences out there, and one type of feel might attract 80% or 90% of people, but not everyone. More pocketing might be great for many, while some players really do enjoy the hard, boardy feel. This applies to tension, also. That's why I like "interviewing" people for a couple of minutes when they call me for advice, to try to narrow things down the best I can, asking for playing style, level, elevation, frame, and some other things.

I can guide you the best I can and probably conclude that Paradox Pro will fit you, but if you want the most precise advice and recommendation from my part, feel free to send me an email at grapplesnakestringsusa@gmail.com

Thanks!
Do you personally prefer tour m8 over alpha or does it just depend on what mood you're in or something? I just watched a YT comparison of the grapplesnake strings and the guy had alpha ranked at 2nd best and tour m8 at 3rd

I'm glad I finally regained my interest in tour m8 after a couple subpar experiences, cause when it works omg it really works! What I've found lately with extensive string testing is Tecnifibre Razor Code at least in my Prince Textreme Tour 95 2019 is the most immune to various weather conditions of any string I've tested so far... seems to be because it gets a unique blend of deep ball pocketing, ease of spin, and springyness.

Tour M8 is far more sensitive to weather conditions than Razor Code for whatever reason which is what threw me off, it doesn't perform to its potential if something is wrong with weather conditions or the tension/racquet you have it at for those specific conditions. But when the tension and conditions are optimal its definitely amazing and a contender for best string out there. One of the best string snapbacks on the market, great power control spin blend and a sweet addicting ball contact feeling/pocketing, also really like the ball trajectory of it.
 
Do you personally prefer tour m8 over alpha or does it just depend on what mood you're in or something? I just watched a YT comparison of the grapplesnake strings and the guy had alpha ranked at 2nd best and tour m8 at 3rd

I'm glad I finally regained my interest in tour m8 after a couple subpar experiences, cause when it works omg it really works! What I've found lately with extensive string testing is Tecnifibre Razor Code at least in my Prince Textreme Tour 95 2019 is the most immune to various weather conditions of any string I've tested so far... seems to be because it gets a unique blend of deep ball pocketing, ease of spin, and springyness.

Tour M8 is far more sensitive to weather conditions than Razor Code for whatever reason which is what threw me off, it doesn't perform to its potential if something is wrong with weather conditions or the tension/racquet you have it at for those specific conditions. But when the tension and conditions are optimal its definitely amazing and a contender for best string out there. One of the best string snapbacks on the market, great power control spin blend and a sweet addicting ball contact feeling/pocketing, also really like the ball trajectory of it.
Based on my style of play, I lean more toward M8. I love Alpha, though. Use it a lot during winter, and in certain frames such as my iPrestiges. Also, Alpha is one of the most popular among stringers that offer Grapplesnake. Makes sense. It's such an easy-to-play-with string, suitable for everyone, really.
 
Nice that was fast didn't feel like much of a wait... ordered a couple packs of both, so curious what alpha will feel and play like. Gonna string one alpha in the 50s and other at low 35-42 or something. And then I guess paradox pro will be releasing around Thursday next week?
Nice! Not that soon for Paradox, since it still hasn't left Germany. It's a very large shipment, so I'm thinking closer to the end of the month.
 

robycat

New User
First impression right from the first shot is "soft". Super comfortable right away, with lots of pocketing RIGHT AWAY. No need to string too low, I think. And underneath that softness, you can feel the solidity and precision of a string that should be much, much firmer, with great energy absorption, hence the name Paradox. Soft and solid. It's like two strings in one. Same with spin. Gritty and abrasive, gives me more spin than most shaped polys I use while being round for best launch consistency. Round and spinny. To me, it changes the conceptions I have on how a string "should" play, and I feel that I don't have to drop the tension to enhance the qualities I like enhancing in a common poly (feel, pocketing, explosiveness and spin). This is thanks to the new metals. I am positive that at some point the industry will catch up and this will be copied. Until then, please understand that I cannot mention much more regarding which metals and in which percentage. I hope you folks can see and feel these qualities by yourselves soon. I recommend normal stringing tension.

Hate that the opinions you are getting are coming from a "biased" me, someone so invested in these ideas, so I reached out to different players with social media presence, some of them people I haven't connected with before, asking for their impressions, good or bad. Sent the sets out today, no retail set packaging yet, just cut from this reel. Hopefully you'll see some stuff pop up at around the time of launch. By the way, this was my only reel of the final version in green. It was in 1.29mm. I played with multiple prototypes for months now, so I knew the string well, but they weren't the final version. The reel is now gone, so I apologize, don't have any more to send.
I am super looking forward to the new Paradox Pro!

Just one question, how are you going to rank its stiffness among Paradox Pro, Alpha, M8 and Tour Sniper?
 
Was waiting for Paradox to order a set of Irukandji... just went out of stock. Any idea on when it will be restocked? Thanks! @Grapplesnake USA Official
Luckily, Irukandji is coming in the same shipment as Paradox Pro. It's been a challenge keeping everything in stock at all times, but the wait times aren't too extended and we are running production 24/7 to not only meet skyrocketing demands on Sniper and M8, plus the new string, plus all other models which are also rising in popularity, especially Alpha, Game Changer and Irukandji. Thanks!!
 

sixtyseries

New User
Luckily, Irukandji is coming in the same shipment as Paradox Pro. It's been a challenge keeping everything in stock at all times, but the wait times aren't too extended and we are running production 24/7 to not only meet skyrocketing demands on Sniper and M8, plus the new string, plus all other models which are also rising in popularity, especially Alpha, Game Changer and Irukandji. Thanks!!
Awesome to hear. Happy to wait and order together. So killer business is good.

Any notes on playability between colors with Irukandji?
 

Felippe

New User
Any recommendations for tension with tour sniper?

I have Ultra pro 18x20. I really would like to compare this tour sniper to Alu Power. My usual tension with Alu power is 25kg or 26kg. Depending where i play.

I have both 1,25 and 1,3 gauge but first going to try 1,25. So what you guys think?
 
Any recommendations for tension with tour sniper?

I have Ultra pro 18x20. I really would like to compare this tour sniper to Alu Power. My usual tension with Alu power is 25kg or 26kg. Depending where i play.

I have both 1,25 and 1,3 gauge but first going to try 1,25. So what you guys think?
I personally string Sniper in the Ultra Pro at 48 lb or 21.7 kg. If you are used to 25 or 26 kg, I would stay right there, and the biggest differences will be a big increase in comfort and tension maintenance. Maybe account for Sniper not dropping tension that dramatically after break-in and string at 24.5 kg? Enjoy!
 

Felippe

New User
I personally string Sniper in the Ultra Pro at 48 lb or 21.7 kg. If you are used to 25 or 26 kg, I would stay right there, and the biggest differences will be a big increase in comfort and tension maintenance. Maybe account for Sniper not dropping tension that dramatically after break-in and string at 24.5 kg? Enjoy!
That sounds perfect! Maybe I go with 24,5. Let's see how it plays!
 

finalfantasy7

Semi-Pro
i do really like gamechanger - better imo opinion than volkl v square - as v square is a tad softer and feels mushy, had gamechanger in the racket for 4 weeks still cuttiing the ball great - yes tension maintenance has comletely gone - but only other poly which lastst this long and longer is restring zero (is my fav poly) then toroline wasabi as 2nd best.

i enjoyed purple plus - felt softer and nicer - similar to restring zero but tad softer - when found this to be harder to control only on slower strings especially after 3/hrs = preferred this string when freshly strung to gamechanger but do prefer gamechanger throught the lifespan
 
I personally string Sniper in the Ultra Pro at 48 lb or 21.7 kg. If you are used to 25 or 26 kg, I would stay right there, and the biggest differences will be a big increase in comfort and tension maintenance. Maybe account for Sniper not dropping tension that dramatically after break-in and string at 24.5 kg? Enjoy!
I'm remaining addicted to 53 lb tour m8 1.30 in the blade pro lol... lately all I've been doing is trying a bunch of racquet and string setups all the time and every session I come back to hitting with the blade pro a 2nd time at the end after hitting all the other racquets once.

The ball contact is firm and cushioned feels nice and theres a really cool snapback sound and a lot of snapback feeling too.
 

Felippe

New User
I'm remaining addicted to 53 lb tour m8 1.30 in the blade pro lol... lately all I've been doing is trying a bunch of racquet and string setups all the time and every session I come back to hitting with the blade pro a 2nd time at the end after hitting all the other racquets once.

The ball contact is firm and cushioned feels nice and theres a really cool snapback sound and a lot of snapback feeling too.
Have you tried Tour sniper? How sniper and m8 differ?

Still no reviews or marketing playtest about paradox pro? Saw one youtuber showing of his set but no playtest yet.
 
I'm remaining addicted to 53 lb tour m8 1.30 in the blade pro lol... lately all I've been doing is trying a bunch of racquet and string setups all the time and every session I come back to hitting with the blade pro a 2nd time at the end after hitting all the other racquets once.

The ball contact is firm and cushioned feels nice and theres a really cool snapback sound and a lot of snapback feeling too.
That’s one of my top set ups of all time, and I’ve been slowly creeping down from 51 lb to 48 lb in the Blade Pro, and to about 46 lb in the H22 actual. Consider I’m at 4,800 ft. It feels so good.
 

cjviva

New User
other metals in higher percentages in a way that feels unique. Same as Tour M8 being a unique poly, this new generation string will also be different and almost hard to fully classify it as a co-poly. There is no other string in the market that is made using the difficult technical processes
Gosh I'll be really excited if it's titanium you are talking about.
 

Felippe

New User
I personally string Sniper in the Ultra Pro at 48 lb or 21.7 kg. If you are used to 25 or 26 kg, I would stay right there, and the biggest differences will be a big increase in comfort and tension maintenance. Maybe account for Sniper not dropping tension that dramatically after break-in and string at 24.5 kg? Enjoy!
Okay, so I went with 24,5kg. Newly strung Sniper felt firm and responsive. I made frequency based test straight after stringing (result 22.9kg). These numbers are not comparable, but I have been comparing RacketTune app numbers among themselves.

Hitting was GREAT i was surprised by the pocketing and control. With these I think this string was actually easier to get hands to power also. RacketTune result after one hour hard hitting 21,5kg. So 6.1% tension drop.

Great great string! Straight to my go to string. If comparing to others not as good control as 4G soft has, but much more power. Still pocketing with Sniper was nicer than 4G. More control and for me harder hits with Sniper than Alu Power.

Should i give a shot to M8? What I get more or less with that one? Actually don't even know what I need more. This Tour Sniper was so good for my style.
 
Okay, so I went with 24,5kg. Newly strung Sniper felt firm and responsive. I made frequency based test straight after stringing (result 22.9kg). These numbers are not comparable, but I have been comparing RacketTune app numbers among themselves.

Hitting was GREAT i was surprised by the pocketing and control. With these I think this string was actually easier to get hands to power also. RacketTune result after one hour hard hitting 21,5kg. So 6.1% tension drop.

Great great string! Straight to my go to string. If comparing to others not as good control as 4G soft has, but much more power. Still pocketing with Sniper was nicer than 4G. More control and for me harder hits with Sniper than Alu Power.

Should i give a shot to M8? What I get more or less with that one? Actually don't even know what I need more. This Tour Sniper was so good for my style.
Very happy that you have discovered our strings! In my personal opinion, M8 is even better, with more pocketing and a different, perhaps more refined, feel.

That being said, many people consider Sniper to be the best. It also lines up with what you were used to from ALU.
 
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Felippe

New User
Very happy that you have discovered our strings! In my personal opinion, M8 is even better, with more pocketing and a different, perhaps more refined, feel.

That being said, many people considered sniper to be the best. It also lines up with what you were used to from ALU.
Interesting, what you mean by refined feel how would you describe it?

Maybe I wait little bit and get some Paradox pro and M8 sets at once.
 
Interesting, what you mean by refined feel how would you describe it?

Maybe I wait little bit and get some Paradox pro and M8 sets at once.
Yea do that you need to experience it yourself... but M8 has a very comfortable cushioned feeling yet its still pretty firm and very solid. Great ball pocket/sink in and a strong snapback for a lot of spin. One of the best strings I've tried. And the army man green looks great in glossy green blade pro like they were made for each other
 
Very happy that you have discovered our strings! In my personal opinion, M8 is even better, with more pocketing and a different, perhaps more refined, feel.

That being said, many people consider Sniper to be the best. It also lines up with what you were used to from ALU.
I agree m8 is better but depends on style if someone really benefits from extra accuracy and precision sniper is great. Also if they want something like Alu sniper is way more similar. I switched from alu to m8 in the blade pro and much happier with it now.
 

robycat

New User
Tennisnerd already has a page for Paradox Pro but no review is released yet

I would guess he already got the string but need to wait the official launch date to release the review? Just like reviewing video games:-D:-D

Looking forward to the new string!
 
Tennisnerd already has a page for Paradox Pro but no review is released yet

I would guess he already got the string but need to wait the official launch date to release the review? Just like reviewing video games:-D:-D

Looking forward to the new string!
Looking forward to it, too. As a matter of fact, the 1.29mm reel you see photographed there is the first one out in the wild in both the US and Europe. I got it, took photos and played with the string a bunch, which was a first time for me in the final green, since everything else was in the prototype color. I then cut the rest of the reel into multiple sets and sent it to different people to test. Now we're just waiting for the main shipment to arrive to release it. There's no embargo on reviews or anything. I hope Jonas (Tennis Nerd) gets some samples from Germany soon.
 
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