are you guys trying to give sponsorship to top players like top 30 players. if so, are you having any success ? i would imaging if poly was one of the top strings in the market, you would have players wanting to play with this string ?? :unsure:
Yes. We just don't have the extra 50k per year to give to that top 30 player. It's not only about the string being close to perfect at that point. It's about money. Every single pro player that has tested Grapplesnake has been surprised and has liked/loved the models. Some, like Gerald Melzer, have chosen our strings plus no money versus a big brand string plus money. Now, we're at a point of offering a few thousand dollars per year on top of the strings, which will get us into players that most of you have heard of. It's only a matter of time until we can "buy" our way into the top 30. Will it all feel as fun and natural as now, when we have lower ranked pro players switching to us due to quality only? No.
 
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We are getting lots of reports of pro players praising Paradox Pro in the crosses with Game Changer, M8 or Sniper in the mains. Game Changer/Paradox is Nicola Kuhns's new setup on tour.
Fascinating! Intrigued by the thought of a Sniper/PP hybrid. Is PP similar to M8 and Sniper in terms of tension maintenance? My least favorite behavior of poly/poly hybrids is when one string dies much faster than the other. I haven't tried Game Changer, but that sounds like a cool combo as well.
 
Fascinating! Intrigued by the thought of a Sniper/PP hybrid. Is PP similar to M8 and Sniper in terms of tension maintenance? My least favorite behavior of poly/poly hybrids is when one string dies much faster than the other. I haven't tried Game Changer, but that sounds like a cool combo as well.
I think TS, M8 and Paradox are excellent when it comes to tension maintenance. Game Changer drops a bit at the beginning and then holds well.

The thing about creating a hybrid under any of these combinations is for you to discover a new and different feel that might be even better for you than any model by itself. We’ve been getting a lot of positive feedback from players experimenting with different tensions, frames and string combinations to an extent that’s even beyond of what I can do alone. And that’s awesome.
 
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FoldingChair

Semi-Pro
Just had a 1.5 hour session with TS 1.25 mains at 51 and PP 1.26 crosses at 49. Prompted to try per earlier discussion on this thread. Great combo so far in my opinion. Spin production dipped a bit vs full bed of PP that I’ve been using, but I noticed many positives: comfort, feel, and control were chief amongst them. Still too early for in depth feedback but I enjoyed this thoroughly as of now. I won’t be hitting for a few days as per rain forecast but eagerly awaiting my next hitting session.
 
Just had a 1.5 hour session with TS 1.25 mains at 51 and PP 1.26 crosses at 49. Prompted to try per earlier discussion on this thread. Great combo so far in my opinion. Spin production dipped a bit vs full bed of PP that I’ve been using, but I noticed many positives: comfort, feel, and control were chief amongst them. Still too early for in depth feedback but I enjoyed this thoroughly as of now. I won’t be hitting for a few days as per rain forecast but eagerly awaiting my next hitting session.
Fantastic. Keep us posted, and thanks!
 

Casper777

Professional
Looks like Irukandji is not pushed anymore...

I still have a set to try... would it be best with game changer? Or another combination with this one?
 

djNEiGht

Legend
Looks like Irukandji is not pushed anymore...

I still have a set to try... would it be best with game changer? Or another combination with this one?
I've tried it with UltraCable (similar profile to GC) and took my time to get the strings to lay flat on both the square mains and the oval/rectangular cross. It was pretty nice.
 
Looks like Irukandji is not pushed anymore...

I still have a set to try... would it be best with game changer? Or another combination with this one?
Not really. It's one of my absolute favorites. It just isn't as soft as Alpha or Paradox, and he asked for the softest.

This is because it's meant to be used with gut or multi in the mains to add accuracy and durability. Its shape is also ideal when used with gut/multi. When it comes to a dual poly hybrid, I would prefer Alpha second and Paradox first.
 
Thank you.
What would be the difference in performance between Alpha, Paradox Pro and Irukandji (as a cross)?
Criteria:
The most snapback produced
Makes the string bed softest
Adds Spin
Adds / reduces Power

Thank you
Irukandji has the best shape, but it was engineered to be used with gut/multi mains. When it comes to dual poly, I prefer Paradox first and Alpha second. Alpha is the softest altogether. Paradox probably has the best feel and its gritty surface would help more with spin than a mild pentagonal geometry in vertical orientation.
 

Carreau

Semi-Pro
i would not put much or any weight on reviews from this channel, all the review are positive. I can’t think of a review where they didn’t have positive things to say especially when it is from smaller companies (Toroline, Grapplesnake, TruPro etc…).

That being said Tour Sniper is a quality string from a quality manufacturer, I just wish there prices were lower.
Agree - in all cases it is an excellent string. It shines in higher SW sticks.
 

forzmr_b

Rookie
Interesting that Max Power dies quickly for you. Has not been my experience. And sorry, I meant 1.26mm. I actually play at sea level in tropical conditions. So hot and humid year round. Switching to poly now that it is the rainy season. Made the mistake of playing my gut hybrid in slightly damp conditions and discovered today that the gut snapped in my bag. Think I’ll go with my usual 53/50 with Sniper first. Thanks!
Finally strung up both full bed Tour Sniper and Paradox Pro in my closely matched PS Xs at 53/50 lbs and had a hit today. Short warm-up followed by 2 practice sets. My first impressions, with a caveat that I was rusty today having been away from tennis and exercise in general for 2 wks :)

Warm-up
Tried Sniper first. Launch angle felt lower than my usual poly setup of Max Power/Ghostwire. Was dumping a lot of balls in the net. Stringbed was firm but not as firm as MP/GW. Good feel for a poly but I think I still prefer MP/GW. Paradox Pro’s launch angle was similar to MP/GW. Nice ball pocketing but think I prefer a firmer stringbed. Definitely has a unique feel but will need more sessions before knowing if I prefer this feel to sliver strings that I’ve grown to like. Between Sniper and Paradox, ball seemed to kick slightly higher with Sniper despite the lower launch angle so perhaps better ball bite or snap back?

Practice Sets
Decided to use Paradox for the 1st set so I didn’t need to adjust my strokes (since launch angle felt similar to MP/GW). No real negatives but wasn’t wowed either. Switched to Sniper for the 2nd set and was expecting poorer performance based on the warm up. But surprise surprise I ended up preferring Sniper but wasn’t wowed either (for now). Lower launch angle didn’t feel apparent anymore, so perhaps it was just the rust in the warm-up affecting my net clearance. Sniper had better directional control than Paradox which occasionally sprayed a bit. But Paradox was more forgiving, Sniper’s power would drop significantly on off centre hits. Both are good strings but neither have displaced MP/GW as my preferred poly yet. Will see if my preference changes as I play with these strings longer.

Hitting partners’ feedback
Only perceptible difference was more power on my serve with Sniper.

Side note on tension maintenance
Tension dropped quite a bit despite only playing 45-55mins for each racket, 3lbs for Sniper, 4lbs for Paradox. MP/GW only drops 4lbs at the 1.5hr mark. Early days so I’m reserving judgement.
 

mauricem

Semi-Pro
For shipping to Australia one set is $32 shipping so obviously not cost effective. How many sets can be added before shipping increases?
 
For shipping to Australia one set is $32 shipping so obviously not cost effective. How many sets can be added before shipping increases?
US$32? It should be ~US$22. You can add or remove sets in your cart as you wish, and the system will show you an accurate shipping cost via USPS or DHL to your location. By the way, we also enabled paying in local currency, so all the numbers you are seeing are in AU$.

We worked hard on being able to offer DHL at less than 50% of their normal charge. It is dirt cheap? No. Most people order 3+ sets or 1+ reels, and we ship down under daily. Once we find the right person to distribute there, things will become easier, but the strings will cost more than the US MSRP equivalent.
 

zeneto1234

New User
Has anyone tried Tour m8 mains and Paradox Pro crosses hybrid? Can anyone give me a feedback? In theory, they compliment each other very well and the paradox pro can help the playability of the tour m8 even more. What you guys think?
 

fnick851

New User
Has anyone tried Tour m8 mains and Paradox Pro crosses hybrid? Can anyone give me a feedback? In theory, they compliment each other very well and the paradox pro can help the playability of the tour m8 even more. What you guys think?
I just tried 1.25mm m8 on main @ 48 lbs, and 1.29mm Paradox Pro on cross @ 45 lbs. I only played some doubles matches with it. I am UTR 5.3 in doubles. I played with some UTR 5s and 4s.

It feels softer and more powerful than full bed M8. The ball stays in the string bed longer at contact. But for me the launch angle is a bit erratic/non-inear compared to full bed M8, given a certain racket face open angle when swing at the ball - sometimes the ball flies, sometimes the ball dumps into the net. Serve is maybe slightly more powerful than full bed M8. Slice performance is similar.

Maybe stringing the Paradox Pro with a bit higher tension is better. Or maybe if I stayed with Paradox Pro longer I can eventually get used to it. But I prefer full bed M8 since it gives me a more linear response, shot consistency and confidence to swing out. I typically use 1.25mm M8 at 50/47 or 49/47.
 

zeneto1234

New User
I just tried 1.25mm m8 on main @ 48 lbs, and 1.29mm Paradox Pro on cross @ 45 lbs. I only played some doubles matches with it. I am UTR 5.3 in doubles. I played with some UTR 5s and 4s.

It feels softer and more powerful than full bed M8. The ball stays in the string bed longer at contact. But for me the launch angle is a bit erratic/non-inear compared to full bed M8, given a certain racket face open angle when swing at the ball - sometimes the ball flies, sometimes the ball dumps into the net. Serve is maybe slightly more powerful than full bed M8. Slice performance is similar.

Maybe stringing the Paradox Pro with a bit higher tension is better. But I prefer full bed M8 since it gives me a more linear response, shot consistency and confidence to swing out. I typically use 1.25mm M8 at 50/47 or 49/47.
Copy that. I'm using full bed of paradox 1.29mm right now at 48lbs the same tension that i used tour m8 last time. I liked it more because of the things you just said, more powerful and softer (bigger sweet spot) than the m8. I didn't felt any problems with the launch angle with it full bed (paradox) but it is indeed more powerful than i wanted it to be and the durability is not the best also, but playability is perfect i think it breaks before the string goes dead. I think i will start hybriding them with the same tension 48lbs with tour m8 1.30 mains and 48lbs paradox pro 1.29 crosses to see what happens. The main goal is to have better durability, a bit more control and spin with this setup compared to the full bed of Paradox Pro. Let's see what happens. I'm not from US and mainly play local and regional tournaments so i don't really know my level.
 

zeneto1234

New User
which is better for spin and power,, grapplesnake or Wasabi ?
About the brand, i preferer grapplesnake than wasabi lol. For power and spin depends of the string, in my opinion the best one for power is paradox pro but not much free spin, for good power and spin alpha, for less power and spin tour m8, for high control and spin (similar of tour m8) the tour sniper. Each of them have a very different feel from each other, i tried and liked the feel of all because none of them felt like cheap plastic.
 
I just tried 1.25mm m8 on main @ 48 lbs, and 1.29mm Paradox Pro on cross @ 45 lbs. I only played some doubles matches with it. I am UTR 5.3 in doubles. I played with some UTR 5s and 4s.

It feels softer and more powerful than full bed M8. The ball stays in the string bed longer at contact. But for me the launch angle is a bit erratic/non-inear compared to full bed M8, given a certain racket face open angle when swing at the ball - sometimes the ball flies, sometimes the ball dumps into the net. Serve is maybe slightly more powerful than full bed M8. Slice performance is similar.

Maybe stringing the Paradox Pro with a bit higher tension is better. Or maybe if I stayed with Paradox Pro longer I can eventually get used to it. But I prefer full bed M8 since it gives me a more linear response, shot consistency and confidence to swing out. I typically use 1.25mm M8 at 50/47 or 49/47.
I would also string Paradox 2 lb tighter if using/used to M8 in the mains at your preferred tension.
 
About the brand, i preferer grapplesnake than wasabi lol. For power and spin depends of the string, in my opinion the best one for power is paradox pro but not much free spin, for good power and spin alpha, for less power and spin tour m8, for high control and spin (similar of tour m8) the tour sniper. Each of them have a very different feel from each other, i tried and liked the feel of all because none of them felt like cheap plastic.
Thanks for helping in educating others!
 

EggSalad

Hall of Fame
Finally strung up Paradox Pro (1.26) in my blade 18x20. What an interesting string. The gritty, paper like surface is unlike any string I’ve handled before. Looking forward to seeing how this plays.
 
Any recommendations on cross tension for a Tour Sniper/Paradox Pro hybrid? About to try out the combo - usually play Sniper at 50# in a customized Ezone98.
Same, 52 for Paradox is what I would recommend for you. But my preferred tension would probably be 51/53 in the Ezone. Even 52/54. This is just my personal preference in that frame, since I mostly hit with 18x20s. But I do love the Ezone.
 

pico

Hall of Fame
If I use 1.25mm Big Hitter Silver Tour in my Pure Aero VS at 55lbs, what should I string Tour Sniper 1.25mm at?
 

EggSalad

Hall of Fame
Finally strung up Paradox Pro (1.26) in my blade 18x20. What an interesting string. The gritty, paper like surface is unlike any string I’ve handled before. Looking forward to seeing how this plays.
Initial impressions are very positive. I only hit for a 1 hour lesson but really interesting strings @Grapplesnake USA Official has created. The touch/volley has almost a gut/poly like feel to it.

I had no problem with spin or depth, though I couldn’t tell how challenging of a ball I was hitting. Control was fantastic. Very true launch to the ball as well.

It’s going to take a while to get my real thoughts on this string but initial impressions are very positive.
 
Initial impressions are very positive. I only hit for a 1 hour lesson but really interesting strings @Grapplesnake USA Official has created. The touch/volley has almost a gut/poly like feel to it.

I had no problem with spin or depth, though I couldn’t tell how challenging of a ball I was hitting. Control was fantastic. Very true launch to the ball as well.

It’s going to take a while to get my real thoughts on this string but initial impressions are very positive.
Outstanding!
 

celsoluck

New User
Hi!

I am playing with CES neon dust mains (48 lb) and Irukandji 2.0 crosses (45 lb) in babolat pure aero Rafa origin.

I like the strings in general, but in the first hour of playing, right after stringing, the mains starts to move and don't snap back.

Is this normal?

Anything I can do to improve the snap back?

Raise the tension on the mains?

Thaks!
 
Hi!

I am playing with CES neon dust mains (48 lb) and Irukandji 2.0 crosses (45 lb) in babolat pure aero Rafa origin.

I like the strings in general, but in the first hour of playing, right after stringing, the mains starts to move and don't snap back.

Is this normal?

Anything I can do to improve the snap back?

Raise the tension on the mains?

Thaks!
Hi!

I am playing with CES neon dust mains (48 lb) and Irukandji 2.0 crosses (45 lb) in babolat pure aero Rafa origin.

I like the strings in general, but in the first hour of playing, right after stringing, the mains starts to move and don't snap back.

Is this normal?

Anything I can do to improve the snap back?

Raise the tension on the mains?

Thaks!
With such sharp mains, that set up is not really meant to be very slippery. It’s meant for pocketing and spin generation based on geometry. It’s the most solid set up we have and I love it. You could increase the tension in the mains, yes, and also you could substitute the crosses for something like M8 or Paradox if you feel that the CES is biting too much into the liquid neon dust. For the most, a full bed of M8 will be the most slippery.
 

celsoluck

New User
Ok!

I will try raise the mains tension first. May be 50 lb? More?

I am using Irukandji 2.0 in the crosses.

What about raising the crosses tension to lessen the mains movement?

I also bought some tour m8, tour sniper, paradox pro and game changer reels. Just waiting for them to test.

Thank you for the reply.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
About the brand, i preferer grapplesnake than wasabi lol. For power and spin depends of the string, in my opinion the best one for power is paradox pro but not much free spin, for good power and spin alpha, for less power and spin tour m8, for high control and spin (similar of tour m8) the tour sniper. Each of them have a very different feel from each other, i tried and liked the feel of all because none of them felt like cheap plastic.
If my fav string is alu power and confidential in 17 gauge, which poly in this company is most similar ??
 
Ok!

I will try raise the mains tension first. May be 50 lb? More?

I am using Irukandji 2.0 in the crosses.

What about raising the crosses tension to lessen the mains movement?

I also bought some tour m8, tour sniper, paradox pro and game changer reels. Just waiting for them to test.

Thank you for the reply.
Unsure if it would be smart to recommend raising your tension more than that, since then we’re getting into a new set of variables that will change the overall product, but typically, the CES neon dust is meant to be used at a lower tension than the crosses. We recommend minus 3. And, your crosses at your normal poly tension. I would change your setup to either 48/51 or 50/50 if you prefer to keep it even. But again, I don’t want things to feel too tight and decrease pocketing too much.
 

zeneto1234

New User
If my fav string is alu power and confidential in 17 gauge, which poly in this company is most similar ??
As the Official guy said probably tour sniper in the 1.25mm. The feel is more similar to alu power, but spin is more similar to confidential. It's a pentagonal shaped not sharp string so you can expect it have good cut at the ball but not like confidential, it has good aluminium content and similar string color that's why it will feel like alu power. In my opnion the sitffness is something like confidential too, so string it like you would string confidential.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
As the Official guy said probably tour sniper in the 1.25mm. The feel is more similar to alu power, but spin is more similar to confidential. It's a pentagonal shaped not sharp string so you can expect it have good cut at the ball but not like confidential, it has good aluminium content and similar string color that's why it will feel like alu power. In my opnion the sitffness is something like confidential too, so string it like you would string confidential.
are you saying spin potential isn't as good as confidential ??
 

zeneto1234

New User
are you saying spin potential isn't as good as confidential ?
Depends of your level. All strings with "shaper" edges helps you generate spin more than any "rounder" edges string especially in lower speed balls, the con is much more inconsistency through its life than rounder ones and in heavy balls wich is the case in 5.0+ level, the diference in spin generation is not significant at all because rounder strings have a bigger snapback effect and will generate similar spin. In my opinion, if you need help in net clearence and in generating more spin for you game, you should probably go with a shaper string but if you generate enough spin for your game, and want more consistency and feel go for rounder strings.

If you want something with better spin potentital than Confidential and feels like aluminium strings (alu power like strings), with consistency like confidential, the better choice would be Grapplesnake Game Changer in silver color, stringing 2-3 lbs less than confidential.
 
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@Grapplesnake USA Official Apologies in advanced if this has been asked before, I may have missed this from older posts, but what is the tension maintenance of Alpha?
Not sure if you can give a % of tension loss like the strings shown in TW string database.
Or do you have that measured in hours ? (with a reference starting tension)
Or super basic, in scale of Excellent / Good / Average / Bad

Thank you
 

EggSalad

Hall of Fame
2nd hit with Paradox Pro today and my favorite aspect of this string is the consistency. It feels exactly like the first hit, the launch angle is totally predictable, and the control is fantastic. It also has a ton of spin for a round string.

There is also a nice ‘thwack’ at contact.

Looking like a reel might be in my future.
 
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