wassamara

Rookie
Does anyone know these parameters for the GAME CHANGER string?

I strung VCORE 98 2023 and it was too much spin for the racquet (46x44lbs)
Then I strung Percept 97D 43x41lbs and it was great. Loads of spin. Second kick serve was a bit of a sitter due to the amount of spin but I am adapting the swing motion to make it more effective. Besides that, the string is great.
I was wondering if anyone knows these parameters. I didnt find at TWU and I dont have an account at stringpedia.
Thanks in advance!


Stiffness (lb/in)
Tension Loss (%)
Energy Return (%)
Spin Potential
String to String Friction (COF)
String to Ball Friction (COF)
 

Farbio

Rookie
this was a great recommendation. currently going through the testing phase, but initial impressions are quite positive so far.
@snoflewis what tension did you string them both at? How did Alpha do as a cross in terms of allowing for snapback etc?

I really enjoyed Alpha as a full bed at 50lbs in a 2023 Vcore 100 especially the ball pocketing, but missed the sharp edges of Game Changer. Was thinking about crossing GC with Alpha.
 

snoflewis

Legend
@snoflewis what tension did you string them both at? How did Alpha do as a cross in terms of allowing for snapback etc?

I really enjoyed Alpha as a full bed at 50lbs in a 2023 Vcore 100 especially the ball pocketing, but missed the sharp edges of Game Changer. Was thinking about crossing GC with Alpha.
52 lbs on ez98. i was set on tour sniper as the main, and tried various crosses including paradox pro, tour sniper, and alpha. the paradox pro has the most pocketing, but it was a bit too elastic for me and had too much pocketing which made the response a bit inconsistent for me. tour sniper as a cross is just too firm and crisp, not enough pocketing. alpha really cuts the difference. it's softer and has more pocketing, but it's still dead enough for a consistent response. i found the TS/alpha setup to have the highest launch angle out of the 3 setups, but there was still plenty of spin on tap to bring the ball down. no issues flattening out the ball either. i'm finding the grapplesnake strings that i've tried to require a bit higher tension.
 

Farbio

Rookie
Ok maybe I will go up to 52 and try that combo. You mentioned the spin was good with high launch angle. Did you feel the snapback was ok, given it's not a round string nor overly slick like GW, MSV Swift or Cream?
 

snoflewis

Legend
Ok maybe I will go up to 52 and try that combo. You mentioned the spin was good with high launch angle. Did you feel the snapback was ok, given it's not a round string nor overly slick like GW, MSV Swift or Cream?
i found it to be just right on the ezone, but i'm not sure how it will be on the vc100. i found the vc100 to need as much pocketing as possible because of all the power and super open string pattern in my extended playtest. i've used GW as a cross for the past 4 years or so until switching to the ez98 and never found it to be slick. i i find it to be sticky. i've also tried it as a cross in the ezone, and it was ok but lost tension too fast and didn't allow the tour sniper mains to snapback from the start. we're using different rackets with very different string spacing, so i'm sure we'll have different opinions on strings. i can only say that it works for me in the ez98 and may be a potential fit for those who find full tour sniper to be too crisp as a cross.
 

TheFoolAbove

New User
I play with the pro staff v14 97 with confidential 16L at 50 lbs usually. I love this string when it comes to baseline with the slight bite/relatively high launch angle and net plays, but struggle into arm issues/power whenever I’m practicing serving for more than 15-20 min (honestly may just be due to high tension). I ordered m8 (same gauge thickness) after watching some reviews on it for its comfort and promising control/spin. Was wondering how m8 compares to confidential in terms of control, power/comfort, forgiveness, and spin (does it generate equal spin? what’s the launch angle like?). Are there any grapplesnake strings that might be more similar to confidential’s predictable and consistent properties while also being slightly more powerful or comfortable when serving? Sorry for asking, just curious b/c it seems like grapplesnake offers the right strings im looking for, but im just a little lost.
 
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vdsp

New User
I play with the pro staff v14 97 with confidential 16L at 50 lbs usually. I love this string when it comes to baseline with the slight bite/relatively high launch angle and net plays, but struggle into arm issues/power whenever I’m practicing serving for more than 15-20 min (honestly may just be due to high tension). I ordered m8 (same gauge thickness) after watching some reviews on it for its comfort and promising control/spin. Was wondering how m8 compares to confidential in terms of control, power/comfort, forgiveness, and spin (does it generate equal spin? what’s the launch angle like?). Are there any grapplesnake strings that might be more similar to confidential’s predictable and consistent properties while also being slightly more powerful or comfortable when serving? Sorry for asking, just curious b/c it seems like grapplesnake offers the right strings im looking for, but im just a little lost.
My take: less spin, better direction control and comfort. Id string Tour M8 higher than confidential to get the same depth control
 

TheFoolAbove

New User
My take: less spin, better direction control and comfort. Id string Tour M8 higher than confidential to get the same depth control
Thanks, I’ll consider that! Would a hybrid using these two strings make sense in any instance? One thing I like about confidential is how confident I can be about ripping a shot down the line or deep without worrying about it going past the baseline.
 
52 lbs on ez98. i was set on tour sniper as the main, and tried various crosses including paradox pro, tour sniper, and alpha. the paradox pro has the most pocketing, but it was a bit too elastic for me and had too much pocketing which made the response a bit inconsistent for me. tour sniper as a cross is just too firm and crisp, not enough pocketing. alpha really cuts the difference. it's softer and has more pocketing, but it's still dead enough for a consistent response. i found the TS/alpha setup to have the highest launch angle out of the 3 setups, but there was still plenty of spin on tap to bring the ball down. no issues flattening out the ball either. i'm finding the grapplesnake strings that i've tried to require a bit higher tension.
Have you tried a full bed of Alpha? Just curious to see a comparison of a FB with the blend of sniper.
 

ebo03

New User
I tried K Pro and was very underwhelmed. Board like and no feel. I have a few other Toroline strings to try before I make a negative comment about the hype train.
 
i found it to be just right on the ezone, but i'm not sure how it will be on the vc100. i found the vc100 to need as much pocketing as possible because of all the power and super open string pattern in my extended playtest. i've used GW as a cross for the past 4 years or so until switching to the ez98 and never found it to be slick. i i find it to be sticky. i've also tried it as a cross in the ezone, and it was ok but lost tension too fast and didn't allow the tour sniper mains to snapback from the start. we're using different rackets with very different string spacing, so i'm sure we'll have different opinions on strings. i can only say that it works for me in the ez98 and may be a potential fit for those who find full tour sniper to be too crisp as a cross.
Thank you for your contribution and for helping others with advice.
 

jimdontcare

Rookie
I've played a few hours with M8 and used to play Confidential on several racquets. I think both strings inspire confidence, but they deliver that confidence differently. They're both dense but Confidential feels less elastic. It provides predictability with how it absorbs power. M8 provides predictability through its responsiveness and longevity. I've only tried M8 in one stick and I can see how its unique feel could interact with racquets in different ways, but aside from that caveat, I feel like there are way more people below the 5.0 level who could benefit from M8 than Confidential. IMO Confidential punishes you for inconsistent racquet head speed more.
 

AA7

Hall of Fame
i found it to be just right on the ezone, but i'm not sure how it will be on the vc100. i found the vc100 to need as much pocketing as possible because of all the power and super open string pattern in my extended playtest. i've used GW as a cross for the past 4 years or so until switching to the ez98 and never found it to be slick. i i find it to be sticky. i've also tried it as a cross in the ezone, and it was ok but lost tension too fast and didn't allow the tour sniper mains to snapback from the start. we're using different rackets with very different string spacing, so i'm sure we'll have different opinions on strings. i can only say that it works for me in the ez98 and may be a potential fit for those who find full tour sniper to be too crisp as a cross.
Another ezone98 ts/alpha experiment incoming from me… in a week probably
 

TheFoolAbove

New User
I've played a few hours with M8 and used to play Confidential on several racquets. I think both strings inspire confidence, but they deliver that confidence differently. They're both dense but Confidential feels less elastic. It provides predictability with how it absorbs power. M8 provides predictability through its responsiveness and longevity. I've only tried M8 in one stick and I can see how its unique feel could interact with racquets in different ways, but aside from that caveat, I feel like there are way more people below the 5.0 level who could benefit from M8 than Confidential. IMO Confidential punishes you for inconsistent racquet head speed more.
The only part I don’t like about confidential is the stiffness in my arm when it comes to serving. In terms of groundstrokes, volleys, and everything else I love it when using confidential and have no arm issue with it. Will definitely try full bed m8 since I have 2 sets, but curious how it would feel if I hybrid it with confidential. I’m hoping that would give me the best of both worlds. I’m mainly looking for a string setup that has great control and spin (not like gamechanger or hyper g kind of spin, but enough spin where I’m confident my balls can land deep with some heaviness), and somewhat decent comfort/power (mainly just a better serving experience). Probably might never happen, but I’d like to find a setup close to that.
 

TheFoolAbove

New User
The only part I don’t like about confidential is the stiffness in my arm when it comes to serving. In terms of groundstrokes, volleys, and everything else I love it when using confidential and have no arm issue with it. Will definitely try full bed m8 since I have 2 sets, but curious how it would feel if I hybrid it with confidential. I’m hoping that would give me the best of both worlds. I’m mainly looking for a string setup that has great control and spin (not like gamechanger or hyper g kind of spin, but enough spin where I’m confident my balls can land just deep enough with some heft), and somewhat decent comfort/power (mainly just a better serving experience). Probably might never happen, but I’d like to find a setup close to that.
 

jimdontcare

Rookie
The only part I don’t like about confidential is the stiffness in my arm when it comes to serving. In terms of groundstrokes, volleys, and everything else I love it when using confidential and have no arm issue with it. Will definitely try full bed m8 since I have 2 sets, but curious how it would feel if I hybrid it with confidential. I’m hoping that would give me the best of both worlds. I’m mainly looking for a string setup that has great control and spin (not like gamechanger or hyper g kind of spin, but enough spin where I’m confident my balls can land deep with some heaviness), and somewhat decent comfort/power (mainly just a better serving experience). Probably might never happen, but I’d like to find a setup close to that.
I think you'll enjoy the M8 testing
 
In what sense, like power and comfort? Would you suggest m8 in the cross or in the main?
In the amount of energy that M8 absorbs in comparison, which is higher. I think you are going to like that. Go full bed first, just like you're used to with Confidential and go from there in terms of experimenting with hybrids. Assess M8 on its own first, is my advice.
 

SitterHitter

New User
i do really like gamechanger - better imo opinion than volkl v square - as v square is a tad softer and feels mushy, had gamechanger in the racket for 4 weeks still cuttiing the ball great - yes tension maintenance has comletely gone - but only other poly which lastst this long and longer is restring zero (is my fav poly) then toroline wasabi as 2nd best.

i enjoyed purple plus - felt softer and nicer - similar to restring zero but tad softer - when found this to be harder to control only on slower strings especially after 3/hrs = preferred this string when freshly strung to gamechanger but do prefer gamechanger throught the lifespan
How does GameChanger compare to V Square? Particularly in terms of power, tension maintenance and spin?
 
A very, very small number of Paradox Pro sets in Bronze Limited Edition are currently available in 1.26 mm. More to come in the next couple of months. Small change in feel, not deliberate, but due to the different pigments used. I love it.

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AKB

Rookie
A very, very small number of Paradox Pro sets in Bronze Limited Edition are currently available in 1.26 mm. More to come in the next couple of months. Small change in feel, not deliberate, but due to the different pigments used. I love it.

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Wonderful! Ordered a few. Hoping bronze will be permanently available soon? Is the game plan to have green, bronze and black?
 

TheFoolAbove

New User
In the amount of energy that M8 absorbs in comparison, which is higher. I think you are going to like that. Go full bed first, just like you're used to with Confidential and go from there in terms of experimenting with hybrids. Assess M8 on its own first, is my advice.
Sure thanks! I’ll do that first. What tension would you recommend in the ps v14 97 if i normally string at 52lbs with confidential 125mm 16l and had arm issues with serving (only serving)? If I were to string with confidential again, I’d think I’d go closer to 49lbs tbh if that provides better context.
 

skip11

New User
Anyone tried VS touch/sniper hybrid? Sniper is my primary poly of choice. Tried gut/alu rough and loved it. Want to try gut/sniper next. In theory should be fine since sniper's edges are not that sharp.
 
Sure thanks! I’ll do that first. What tension would you recommend in the ps v14 97 if i normally string at 52lbs with confidential 125mm 16l and had arm issues with serving (only serving)? If I were to string with confidential again, I’d think I’d go closer to 49lbs tbh if that provides better context.
Maybe 50 lb. You want to assess the string in a tension area that you are already used to. Otherwise you'll be experiencing two new things - the string and a new tension range.
 
Anyone tried VS touch/sniper hybrid? Sniper is my primary poly of choice. Tried gut/alu rough and loved it. Want to try gut/sniper next. In theory should be fine since sniper's edges are not that sharp.
It will feel familiar, hopefully better to you in terms of feel, tension maintenance and comfort.
 

einca13

Rookie
i totally forgot I bought a set of Tour M8 1.25 quite some ago and just came across it as I was cleaning out a drawer. Strung it up in my Blade Noir V8 at 47/45 and hit with it for about 5 hours over 2 days. After about a 20-30 minute break-in, I must say what a great string.

I found it had controllable power and fantastic feel. A lot of polys are plasticky feeling (Toroline, Restring etc.) and Tour M8 is one of the best feeling poly strings I have ever played outside of that first 2 hours of bliss with ALU Power. it is 8 sided, but plays more like a round string, which I like as I don’t need a string to provide spin. I prefer the consistent stringbed without the occasional flier. It was also the perfect blend of comfort and crispness and tension maintenance appears to be good after 5 hours or so.

This is a string I would certainly strongly consider switching to except for its only downside… its cost. There are so many quality strings in the $100/reel range that I can’t justify paying nearly 2x the price even if it is marginally superior.

I will say though, great job Grapplesnake. You developed a fantastic string!
 

SitterHitter

New User
How does GameChanger compare to V Square? Particularly in terms of power, tension maintenance and spin?
I've strung up Gamechanger and noticed something very strange. Both the Volkl V Square I'm using and the Grapplesnake Gamechanger are both meant to be 1.20, however Gamechanger is definitely a thicker and heavier string. I checked to be sure. I get that square strings are going to measure up slightly differently than round strings, but being as both are supposed to be square, I'd have thought they'd both be basically the same size. Very odd. I'm wondering if the difference in thickness has something to do with V Square 'stretching' whilst being strung and getting thinner in the process? It does seem to be slightly the softer string.
 

jimdontcare

Rookie
i totally forgot I bought a set of Tour M8 1.25 quite some ago and just came across it as I was cleaning out a drawer. Strung it up in my Blade Noir V8 at 47/45 and hit with it for about 5 hours over 2 days. After about a 20-30 minute break-in, I must say what a great string.

I found it had controllable power and fantastic feel. A lot of polys are plasticky feeling (Toroline, Restring etc.) and Tour M8 is one of the best feeling poly strings I have ever played outside of that first 2 hours of bliss with ALU Power. it is 8 sided, but plays more like a round string, which I like as I don’t need a string to provide spin. I prefer the consistent stringbed without the occasional flier. It was also the perfect blend of comfort and crispness and tension maintenance appears to be good after 5 hours or so.

This is a string I would certainly strongly consider switching to except for its only downside… its cost. There are so many quality strings in the $100/reel range that I can’t justify paying nearly 2x the price even if it is marginally superior.

I will say though, great job Grapplesnake. You developed a fantastic string!
I'm sure you thought of this already, but for anybody on the fence, you should consider the price per hour of play. Grapplesnake's playability duration tends to be pretty impressive compared to a lot of strings in that $100/reel range, at least from my somewhat limited experience.
 

ZeroandOne

Rookie
Tried tour m8 in a pure drive 100 at 52.
Low power and launch angle, yet tons of pocketing. Ultimately not for me. I like a slightly more direct response of the stringbed. Will be sticking to rpm blast.
 

einca13

Rookie
I'm sure you thought of this already, but for anybody on the fence, you should consider the price per hour of play. Grapplesnake's playability duration tends to be pretty impressive compared to a lot of strings in that $100/reel range, at least from my somewhat limited experience.
It is a valid point, but I honestly did not get any extra life out of the string versus my normal setups. They all pretty much die for me around 4-6 hour mark.
 

jimdontcare

Rookie
I've decided that Alpha will be my string for competition this year. I've just stopped wanting to pick up any racquet in my bag not strung with this lol. Could be a honeymoon phase, but I'm usually right about these things for myself. It's the closest I've come to a string feeling like an extension of my arm.

I'm not the most experienced string reviewer in the world--I'm able to speak about racquets much more fluently in comparison--so bear with me.

Background, in case it's helpful for anyone: Computer-rated 4.0 player using Prince TT310. My go-to tension is 48 pounds, but I like 50 with Alpha, maybe more once the weather gets hot. I'm very used to stiff poly strings--when I was a kid, nobody told me how strings worked, so I googled "most durable strings" and bought some poly. Someone told me I didn't need to replace them if they didn't break, so I played with dead poly until I returned to the game as an adult. Because of that experience, I gravitated to pretty stiff strings, like Solincos. But over the last six months or so, I've been experimenting with softer setups, including multi/poly hybrids, and found that I like them after all. Lynx yellow 1.30 was probably my favorite setup in the TT310 before finding Alpha.

Playstyle and what I want: Counterpuncher unafraid to finish off a point at net. I play with a lot of spin for my level mostly out of necessity, it just feels natural, but I don't necessarily crave maximum spin. I just really can't be fighting against the racquet or the strings to achieve spin.

How Alpha performed:
  • Power/Control: Other Alpha reviewers on this thread mention that there is both power and control in this string. They're completely right. I think it's the most powerful poly I've tried. It's also the most reliable poly I've tried. You can feel exactly how Alpha is returning energy back into the ball. But it does not feel springy or anything like that. I felt like I was completely in control of where the ball went and how fast. Alpha has the power boost of having a multi main without any of the launchiness or unpredictability. (Now, if you are a very high-level player, I could see how you might prefer the string to absorb some power for you so you can keep racquet head speed up for spin and such. But if that's you, you're probably not in the soft poly market.)
  • Spin: Spinnier than the spinniest round polys, but not a "spin string." For me and my strokes, it's a great balance. The launch angle remains moderate and predictable, but I can get the heavy defensive topspin and dipping passing shots whenever I want them. I can't exactly see one of those D1 topspin monsters playing with this, but I see spin being sufficient for anyone who plays with even a little bit of variety.
  • Feel: Doesn't fall into an easy category. Not muted--I've played muted strings before, like Hyper G, Black Zone, and black Cyclone. Yet the ball doesn't get lost on the string bed at all. Touch shots are exceptional. When it's time to respond to lack of pace with lack of pace, Alpha excels where other full beds of poly often struggle. There's no minimum racquet head speed you have to meet in order to feel like Alpha is working for you in some way. Not mushy at all. When a hard-hitting exchange is happening, Alpha is up to the task and remains very stable (rallies with a former D3 at my club are my biggest test for this).
  • Comfort: felt like I was playing a multi hybrid. Maybe even better, in some aspects. I am not the most sensitive arm in the world, though.
  • Playability Duration: Consistent response until it dies. This is the clincher that makes me unwilling to put too much effort into finding something better.
  • Color: The gold is awesome and worth mentioning on its own.

Who is this for: People who like winning points? Lol. Sure, there are stiff, shaped strings out there that I've produced some incredible dipping shots with, and some multi hybrids make the neutral ball so easy to hit. But when it comes to point construction, situational play, and pressure moments, Alpha's power lifts the floor to my game and Alpha's feel and predictability lifts my ceiling. It's the only string I've hit where I'm not left wanting something else.

Well, almost. In a perfect world, Grapplesnake would offer Alpha in a 1.30, which would work great for my open string pattern. But I recognize the market for a thicker gauge Alpha probably is pretty small. But if Grapplesnake were to start offering a 1.30 Alpha, know you would have at least one customer lol.
Two updates. First, I've decided that the best sound in tennis is hitting a flat serve, with Alpha, indoors. You're welcome. Second, after messing around with some other, less soft strings again, I gained a little perspective on Alpha durability. It's still a soft string. It's not going to be on the upper end of longest playability duration you've ever seen. But after a playing with different soft strings for a while, and coming across Alpha, I felt like Alpha played well the longest. So many other soft strings had me counting down the hours until I could justify restringing. Still having a lot of fun with this string, especially for doubles.
 

snoflewis

Legend
Two updates. First, I've decided that the best sound in tennis is hitting a flat serve, with Alpha, indoors. You're welcome. Second, after messing around with some other, less soft strings again, I gained a little perspective on Alpha durability. It's still a soft string. It's not going to be on the upper end of longest playability duration you've ever seen. But after a playing with different soft strings for a while, and coming across Alpha, I felt like Alpha played well the longest. So many other soft strings had me counting down the hours until I could justify restringing. Still having a lot of fun with this string, especially for doubles.
i'm not finding it to be that soft, but it's just soft enough where it's a great cross to the crisper tour sniper. tons of good soft polys out there, but it just being that much stiffer really helps w/ the playability over time. the tension drops in a linear fashion as opposed to something like a YPTP that completely bags after the break in period. very easy string to get along with.
 

jimdontcare

Rookie
i'm not finding it to be that soft, but it's just soft enough where it's a great cross to the crisper tour sniper. tons of good soft polys out there, but it just being that much stiffer really helps w/ the playability over time. the tension drops in a linear fashion as opposed to something like a YPTP that completely bags after the break in period. very easy string to get along with.
It manages to be crisp and soft at the same time, which is very enjoyable for me. The linear tension drop probably is a better way to say what I was trying to get at.
 
Two updates. First, I've decided that the best sound in tennis is hitting a flat serve, with Alpha, indoors. You're welcome. Second, after messing around with some other, less soft strings again, I gained a little perspective on Alpha durability. It's still a soft string. It's not going to be on the upper end of longest playability duration you've ever seen. But after a playing with different soft strings for a while, and coming across Alpha, I felt like Alpha played well the longest. So many other soft strings had me counting down the hours until I could justify restringing. Still having a lot of fun with this string, especially for doubles.
Alpha is VERY underrated. We developed it alongside Sniper, so it shares the same performance-oriented essence, but with a comfort-oriented delivery. It's not just a soft string.
 
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