Great explanation. I love the ball pocketing feel of M8 as soon as it breaks in. 42lbs is my sweet spot where there is perfect control and a ton of power and spin due to snapback. Honestly, it it my favorite string ever- even more so than gut/poly hybrids. Better control, more spin, and comparable power.
What are your top 5 strings even and your current racquet ?
I haven't tried a bunch of strings, but I stick with one setup for a long time once I am dialed in with it. I'm a rapidly improving 6ish UTR who is a college recruit. Big serve, flatish forehand and backhands. I still hit a pretty heavy ball with Tour M8 tho.
Tour M8- Insane pocketing
Hi, just wondering what tensions have been working on 16x19 frames and as well as tweeners? I strung Mako at 52, and TBH i think i would need to string at 60 to regain a bit of control. Do you have a recommended upper threshold for Mako's tension?
Yes, sure. More overall power and a little less of a crisp feel.
Happy that M8 is a perfect fit for you. And thanks for your support!
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16x19s, I've been using it at 54 in the Blade, 54 in the Pure Strike, 54 and 55 in the Aero and Pure Drive, 53 in the Shift 16x20, so that's my area of comfort with Tour Mako and open patterns at 5000 ft of elevation. Would go a little lower myself at sea level. I normally string Tour M8 at 2 lb below in those same frames. I would suggest maybe 3 lb difference with M8 if your racquet head speed isn't that high, for example for players using these power racquets who are at the good 4.0 to entry 4.5 level and are hitting hard but have not quite yet developed good racquet head speed. That means around 55 lb, similar to what I recommend when using Paradox Pro. Again, you might find your tension sweet spot area at a different range. When addressing oversized tweeters at 104+, that's a higher tension across the board with every string and I apologize if that's what you meant exactly.
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Don't do Mako. Not recommended on EZONE
Game Changer is a great fit to me at around 54 lb. M8 in the Ezone works well, but I do prefer Sniper at the same tension range, both around 2 lb below Game Changer, at around 52 lb. I like M8 -and the Neon Hybrid- more in the older DR. Paradox Pro I thought was fine but not my favorite in this racquet. And finally, even though the person above clearly did not like it, I do enjoy Tour Mako very much at similar tensions to Game Changer in the Ezone 98 and 98+ at around 54 or 55 lb. This is after over 100 hours of testing in those frames, which I alternate using when testing the Ezone series. As I have said in this forum a few times before, the Ezone series is tension and string sensitive to me, and I don't like it too much when too loose or too tight, with any string. I therefore put a lot of hours documenting which tension and string combinations I like in the Ezone. I normally like a little lower tensions in other frames. What's your level of play if you don't mind me asking?
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The Neon Hybrid definitely comes to mind in terms of feel and power if strung properly, with the mains at minus 3 or even 4. From there, Paradox Pro to achieve the feel and power you want, even though it’s round, it’s surprisingly good on spin. Finally, Tour Sniper, which will probably give you the feel you are looking for, but not that much power.
Thanks for the tips, would this mean, the mains lower than my regular tension or merely a difference between the mains and crosses of 3 to 4 lbs?
You are correct on Estress Pro. Think of it as a firmer version of Tour Sniper with even more aluminum. To me, TS is perfect for what it is, an aluminum based string with a softer approach, which is why I don’t carry Estress Pro in the United States. I would probably string it similar to TS/M8 or maybe one or 2 pounds below.
Mains three or four below your regular tension, and crosses at your regular tension. This is all described in the website, Neon Hybrid product page. Hope you like it. The Neon Hybrid is one of my top favorite strings.
Not a Grapplesnake product, but Hyper G sounds like it is exactly what you are looking for. I haven't tried Tour Mako, but you may enjoy that as well.
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This is my personal experience: 21kg is somehow unforgiving, 20kg too wild and 20,5 is spot on. However, it is very personal and can depend on particular frame. I'm using extremely open pattern and TS can be simply not the best fit for my frame.
It is Angell TC100.
I would say M8 feels softer but has lower launch angle compared to contidential though. I would string M8 1-2lbs tighter than confidential get same feel/control
Mako has been the only string that showed a tension loss of -15% after just 1 hour hitting. Did you feel the same extreme lack of tension holding?Mako impressions. I didnt found that string to be a blend of M8 and TS. If i had to choose one i would say closer to TS.
-More muted and more byte than M8/TS
-A lot more responsive than M8/TS..... ball instantly takes off
-It has a firm next gen response but 100% arm friendly
-Unlimited power..... the better the contact the more power you can extract
-Couldnt gel with it on my flatish 1HB..... perfect on my forehand
-Easy slice depth and control
-I wouldnt suggest it to pure flat hitters
-Needs 20 minutes for the initial metallic ping to go away
-it didnt feel that it would be as durable as M8
The reason why some testers in here mentioned a little bit of inconsistency has to do with the strings "next gen nature"......this string could easily have a place in Toroline's or Restring's line. Minimal string movement and instant snapback like those torolines.....the feel of it reminds me like a mix of super toro / sync or a softer super toro or a more firm toro toro..... in the end to be more accurate i would say like a more arm friendly toro toro
It simply as that guys.... you either get used playing with those next strings and brushing super fast up to have a proper contact and not overshoot or just go back to the most traditional offerings. Great string nevertheless but not for me.
I would definitely try M8. Absolutely love the Vcore 95/M8 combo and have used it extensively at around 47 or 48 lb. But yes, it does take me around 20 min to adjust to the higher launch angle when coming from an H22 or similar, but it's an easy transition altogether. Once dialed, that setup is a real weapon. Love it. Your perfect tension might not be the same as mine.
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I am not the best person to judge cause i dont punish strings that much. After 2 hours i just noticed some notching and feel became a little bit more firm.
It might depend on stringing. Mako was reported as having a high stretch. So, if it was pulled with crank/lockout machine - the tension loss can be even bigger.
Perfect thank you! We have similar reference tension (48 lbs; depending on string and conditions) so I'll give it a go. Would you recommend the 1.25 or 1.30 gauge?
In the 95, probably 1.25 mm unless you're a very hard hitter. Enjoy!
Tour Sniper for maximum control and the ALUish feel, but Alpha for a little extra boost in power.
Aluminum-based strings feel wonderful to me in the Six One series I used to play with so much back in the day. I would go with Sniper 1.25 mm at around 46 lb personally.
