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SlvrDragon50

Semi-Pro
You are welcome! To me, Irukandji is the ultimate cross string, specially with Multi or Nat Gut in the Mains. It also works great with another poly in the mains.

If you have another poly in the mains, I will then also suggest to try Liquid Neon Dust (available in half-reels now) or Excellent Purple (available in sets and reels) in the Crosses. The square profile models would not be my first choice to use as a Cross.

In the end it is all personal preference, and I would give a couple of different set-ups a try!

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Sounds good. Yea the shaped polys + gut is something I don't quite fully understand. I've seen some people say use only smooth polys and then other people are swearing by ALU Power Rough and other shaped polys. Guess it does ultimately come down to personal preference though!

You also mentioned that the White and Blue Irukandji play differently. Could you maybe give some details on the differences?
 
What is the stiffness of Irukandjji compared to other poly crosses such as Max Power, Alu Power, YPTP? Is it very slick?

Thanks!
Hello! Yes, it is very slick. What is really interesting about it, is that the slickness comes from the base materials utilized in its construction, it is not just a coating, or injection.

It is softer than the examples you provided. Let me give you some reference. This is our list of strings, from softest to firmest:

Liquid (softest) - Irukandji - Liquid Neon Dust - Cube - "Prototype" - Excellent Purple - CES Neon Dust - Cube Extra Sharp (firmest)

With Prototype having similar characteristics as ALU Power.

Hope that helps.

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Sounds good. Yea the shaped polys + gut is something I don't quite fully understand. I've seen some people say use only smooth polys and then other people are swearing by ALU Power Rough and other shaped polys. Guess it does ultimately come down to personal preference though!

You also mentioned that the White and Blue Irukandji play differently. Could you maybe give some details on the differences?
They don't play it exactly the same, but also, the difference is barely noticeable, especially considering that you are using this string as a cross, which normally provides about 30% of the overall feel. So, it doesn't really make that much difference. If anything, I would say that the white version plays marginally softer than the blue.

With its rounded rectangular shape, we are actually increasing the contact area between Mains and Crosses, which makes it more effective than even a round string in terms of minimizing notching.

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SlvrDragon50

Semi-Pro
They don't play it exactly the same, but also, the difference is barely noticeable, especially considering that you are using this string as a cross, which normally provides about 30% of the overall feel. So, it doesn't really make that much difference. If anything, I would say that the white version plays marginally softer than the blue.

With its rounded rectangular shape, we are actually increasing the contact area between Mains and Crosses, which makes it more effective than even a round string in terms of minimizing notching.

Grapplesnake USA
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Awesome, I think I'll pick up a pack of the blue and white Irukandji.
 

fl4tsc

Rookie
Full Disclosure: Grapplesnake USA was kind enough to send me a demo set of CES hybrid. I ordered a full price set of Cube to go along with it.

Finally got a chance to try out my set of Cube.
My usual setup, and the setup I used for a direct comparison, is a Wilson H22 18x20 with Volkl Cyclone 18g (Orange) at 42lbs in the mains and 40lbs in the crosses.
I'm a strong NTRP 4.5 to average 5.0 depending on the day, in my mid 20s. All-court player, but I focus on the 1-2 punch as my biggest weapon. Average topspin on my forehand, flatter 2hbh. Enjoy using the slice and dropshots to keep people on their toes. Think Benoit Paire, but my forehands better. ;)


I strung up a fresh racket with Cyclone and Cube, both at 42/40, the day before taking them out on court.

My first impression of cube is that it is by far the sharpest string I've ever strung before. It can actually be pretty painful when weaving the crosses through unless you've got some tough fingertips.
Additionally, the string appears to be pretty thick, especially when compared to the 18g Cyclone.

So right off the bat I found Cube to play surprisingly similar to Cyclone. Based on the huge difference in look/feel when stringing I was expecting a massive difference.

Cube felt slightly more muted than Cyclone, but not to the point of being bothersome. Comfort usually isn't a big concern for me, but Cube didn't strike me as any extra harsh than Cyclone.
Cube had slightly less power and a lower launch angle, which I would most likely attribute to the thicker gauge.
Surprisingly I found it more difficult to generate topspin with Cube. I think this is due in part to the combination of the thickness of Cube and the density of the 18x20 string pattern not allowing the edges of Cube to really bite into the ball, but rather the flat sides of the string doing most of the work. With a more open string pattern, or a thinner gauge string I think the spin potential would go up significantly.
I did find Cube to provide a more consistent response off the stringbed, and never really had any balls take off on me like they sometimes do with Cyclone.

Overall, it would be a tough sell for me to switch to Cube, in large part because of how painful it is to string. I would definitely be interested in trying a thinner gauge version to see if that would unlock the spin potential promised by the extreme sharpness and aggressive shape of Cube.

Although it is more difficult to find demo time with league matches ongoing, I plan on trying to hit with Cube until it breaks so that I can comment on the long term playability. I generally don't like how Cyclone plays at the end of its life which is part of why I went with the 18g so that it'll break quickly.

Next up the CES hybrid demo!
Just a quick update on my Cube demo. I didn't keep a good log of time used, but if I had to guess they broke around the 8 hour mark.
Very happy with how it performed all the way up to breaking. The playability, feel, and snapback all stayed super consistent right up until they broke.
One of my biggest issues with my usual setup (Volkl Cyclone 18g) is how bad it tends to play for the last hour or so, so Cube was a great improvement on that front.
 

fl4tsc

Rookie
I also got out and hit with my CES hybrid yesterday. I strung it up at 42/44lbs, compared to my usual 42/40 Cyclone 18g.

The softer cross makes stringing far less uncomfortable than a full bed of Cube which was much appreciated.

First impression on court was that like Cube, CES has a lower launch angle and slightly lower power than my Cyclone setup, but that the sound produced at contact is awesome. Cyclone makes much more of a ting noise, but for whatever reason CES makes this awesome thud on contact. I really meshed with the feel of CES as well. It seemed slightly more comfortable than Cyclone, but also managed to communicate really well. I tend to dislike more comfort oriented polys because they get too muted, but that was not the case with CES. Spin was on par or possibly slightly better with CES than 18g Cyclone, which I found quite impressive given it's relative thickness. I found myself able to be more consistent with CES, but still have the power to blast a winner when the time was right.

CES is actually a setup I could see myself switching to, especially if it holds its playability like Cube did. The sound on contact alone is almost enough of a reason to switch.
I think the only downsides with CES come from my being accustomed to the ultra-thin 18g Cyclone, and the slightly stronger price point. If Grapplesnake ever releases some thinner gauge versions of their offerings I'd be all over it.

@Grapplesnake USA Official will there be demo sets of the prototype string?
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
CES is actually a setup I could see myself switching to, especially if it holds its playability like Cube did.
Let me know if it's the case, for you.
For me, the ONLY problem I have with CES/Liquid Neon Dust hybrid is that Liquid don't hold tension really well because it is so soft.
Tomorrow I will try it with a 5% prestretch of Liquid. It could give me better tension maintenance without sacrificing comfort too much. And I could get better and more consistent control too.
Can't wait!!
 
I also got out and hit with my CES hybrid yesterday. I strung it up at 42/44lbs, compared to my usual 42/40 Cyclone 18g.

The softer cross makes stringing far less uncomfortable than a full bed of Cube which was much appreciated.

First impression on court was that like Cube, CES has a lower launch angle and slightly lower power than my Cyclone setup, but that the sound produced at contact is awesome. Cyclone makes much more of a ting noise, but for whatever reason CES makes this awesome thud on contact. I really meshed with the feel of CES as well. It seemed slightly more comfortable than Cyclone, but also managed to communicate really well. I tend to dislike more comfort oriented polys because they get too muted, but that was not the case with CES. Spin was on par or possibly slightly better with CES than 18g Cyclone, which I found quite impressive given it's relative thickness. I found myself able to be more consistent with CES, but still have the power to blast a winner when the time was right.

CES is actually a setup I could see myself switching to, especially if it holds its playability like Cube did. The sound on contact alone is almost enough of a reason to switch.
I think the only downsides with CES come from my being accustomed to the ultra-thin 18g Cyclone, and the slightly stronger price point. If Grapplesnake ever releases some thinner gauge versions of their offerings I'd be all over it.

@Grapplesnake USA Official will there be demo sets of the prototype string?
Great! Nice to see that you liked our string! I also enjoy the solid sound upon impact. It is so stable upon hard contact.

And YES, there will be limited Demo sets available for Prototype. This will happen next week. Only reason why this is taking a little longer than expected, is because we decided to wait for another new string (our final new release) to be ready, and they are now both en route to the US.

Can't say much about the other string yet, other than it will be Prototype's sister model. Same profile, dimensions, quality and price. Same Tour-level characteristics. Just plays different. Different color, also. It is also a string that took a lot of time and resources to develop. It's a unique formula, and we are very excited about it.

I will introduce them both here the moment they arrive, and will have information for players here to sign up as play-testers.

Thank you for your patience. We are very excited about these two new offerings!

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spinerella

New User
I also got out and hit with my CES hybrid yesterday. I strung it up at 42/44lbs, compared to my usual 42/40 Cyclone 18g.

The softer cross makes stringing far less uncomfortable than a full bed of Cube which was much appreciated.

First impression on court was that like Cube, CES has a lower launch angle and slightly lower power than my Cyclone setup, but that the sound produced at contact is awesome. Cyclone makes much more of a ting noise, but for whatever reason CES makes this awesome thud on contact. I really meshed with the feel of CES as well. It seemed slightly more comfortable than Cyclone, but also managed to communicate really well. I tend to dislike more comfort oriented polys because they get too muted, but that was not the case with CES. Spin was on par or possibly slightly better with CES than 18g Cyclone, which I found quite impressive given it's relative thickness. I found myself able to be more consistent with CES, but still have the power to blast a winner when the time was right.

CES is actually a setup I could see myself switching to, especially if it holds its playability like Cube did. The sound on contact alone is almost enough of a reason to switch.
I think the only downsides with CES come from my being accustomed to the ultra-thin 18g Cyclone, and the slightly stronger price point. If Grapplesnake ever releases some thinner gauge versions of their offerings I'd be all over it.

@Grapplesnake USA Official will there be demo sets of the prototype string?
fl4tsc,

How do you think CES would fare in a racquet with an 18x20 string pattern. Is it too thick? I read that its thickness is similar to 16g round string...that makes me hesitate to try it.

Thanks,
 

Doubles

Legend
fl4tsc,

How do you think CES would fare in a racquet with an 18x20 string pattern. Is it too thick? I read that its thickness is similar to 16g round string...that makes me hesitate to try it.

Thanks,
I strung it, though haven’t hit with it, in my Blade. I don’t think it’s as bad as a 16 gauge string. The shape makes it seem thicker than it is.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
fl4tsc,

How do you think CES would fare in a racquet with an 18x20 string pattern. Is it too thick? I read that its thickness is similar to 16g round string...that makes me hesitate to try it.

Thanks,
CES alone or CES/Liquid hybrid??
And Neon Dust version or not??
 

spinerella

New User
I strung it, though haven’t hit with it, in my Blade. I don’t think it’s as bad as a 16 gauge string. The shape makes it seem thicker than it is.
I may try it. But, I hope its nothing like the thickness of Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable (UC). UC is stated as 1.23 but seems more like 1.35!
 

Doubles

Legend
I may try it. But, I hope its nothing like the thickness of Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable (UC). UC is stated as 1.23 but seems more like 1.35!
No idea what UC is like, tbh, but it seems similar to the 16L Hyper g I have in another blade. A little thicker but not much.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
I was referring to CES/Liquid hybrid.
You can try it in 18x20 but that kind of string is more designed for more open pattern. It is really thick like UC. And it is designed for SPIN. 18x20 frames are NOT designed for spin... But CONTROL. So more rounded and thin strings are better for 18x20 pattern.
But you can try it!! And also try the new Prototype!!
 
TT Friends! The moment arrived!

We are incredibly happy and excited to announce that our two new strings are now available in the US for sale in our website. These are amazing times for us at Grapplesnake, because both of these strings have been engineered with Tour levels of performance in mind. It has taken us a long time and enormous effort to perfect both of these models. We utilized our sponsored Pros to continue to improve our formulas until we were all sure that these were the products we wanted. We can't mention names, but multiple professional players, some of them highly ranked, are currently assessing these models, and we expect to sign more contracts this season.

Introducing....

1) Grapplesnake Tour Sniper (1.25mm)

Formerly known as "Prototype", Tour Sniper has been engineered with a known formula in mind. With similar playing characteristics as Luxilon Alu Power, Solinco Tour Bite, and Kirschbaum Max Power, we decided to create a string that was softer, with more control, and pentagonal in shape. Low-powered, Tour Sniper provides ultimate levels of control. It is ideal for players that enjoy this particular feel, but are not happy with how firm it normally is. It comes partially pre-streched to also minimize the significant initial tension loss normally associated with this family of strings. Tour Sniper is ideal for heavy-hitters. Its edges are less sharp than our square offerings such as Cube, and launch angles are less dramatic. Very "silky", it is extremely easy to string. Available in 1.25mm, grey color, in sets and reels.






2) Grapplesnake Alpha (1.25mm)

Grapplesnake Alpha was developed alongside Tour Sniper as its "sister" string. We wanted to engineer a second Tour level string, but with our unique characteristics. We were interested in achieving an ever softer feel, add some power, while maintaining ultimate directional control. The results are impressive. We have gotten incredibly positive feedback from every single player involved in the development and testing of this string. Alpha feels soft and comfortable, and very stable upon hard impact. It is also pentagonal in shape, and easy to string. Alpha has been our biggest project so far, and it has taken countless hours of our efforts on and off court to make it feel "just right". We believe there aren't others like it, and some people in our team call it our "masterpiece". Available in 1.25mm, gold color, in sets and reel.






Both strings are priced identically, at $12.50 per set and $159.95 per reel. We are offering two polyester strings of the highest quality, 100% made in Germany, for an affordable price, and we are proud of that. We have also reduced our shipping costs to $3.50 up to 4oz (2 hard sets or 3 soft sets), $4.99 standard heavier shipping, and FREE SHIPPING on orders over $65.

Now, we do have limited Demo Sets available for play-testers (one per person). If you are truly interested in these models, and are willing to post a review in this thread, and also post it in our website (in the product page), please send us an e-mail at grapplesnakestringsusa@gmail.com. We have 15 sets per model (total of 30) available. We will let everybody know here once they are all taken.

Thank you all again for your support! These are great times for us, we keep growing steadily thanks to you! We have secured contracts with top Junior players in the world and you guys/girls will hopefully start seeing our logo/stencil on TV more frequently, along with our strings in different online and physical stores. Your positive feedback is much appreciated! Please visit our website for more info.

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Addxyz

Semi-Pro
They don't play it exactly the same, but also, the difference is barely noticeable, especially considering that you are using this string as a cross, which normally provides about 30% of the overall feel. So, it doesn't really make that much difference. If anything, I would say that the white version plays marginally softer than the blue.

With its rounded rectangular shape, we are actually increasing the contact area between Mains and Crosses, which makes it more effective than even a round string in terms of minimizing notching.

Grapplesnake USA
Tennis Strings Made in Germany
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Since it's rectangular, should you take care to weave it without it rotating it?
 
Since it's rectangular, should you take care to weave it without it rotating it?
Good question. You can try to be a little careful, but it's not a huge deal, because it's rounded as well, and very slippery, so it just tends to rotate by itself if needed. Always good to try to weave it through straight, though, especially at low tensions.

Hope it helps,


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fl4tsc

Rookie
fl4tsc,

How do you think CES would fare in a racquet with an 18x20 string pattern. Is it too thick? I read that its thickness is similar to 16g round string...that makes me hesitate to try it.

Thanks,
So the mains of the CES Neon Dust definitely appear & feel thicker than the advertised 1.23mm. The Liquid cross thickness appears like you'd expect a 17g string to.

In my 18x20 H22 I haven't noticed a huge difference in spin between the 18g Cyclone I usually play with and the CES Neon Dust hybrid which is pretty impressive given how much thicker the CES appears. Given that, I definitely don't think it's too thick for an 18x20, but would probably be even better if it were just a bit thinner.

If you're looking for absolute maximum spin in an 18x20 there's probably better (thinner) options out there that will give you a good high launch angle and the spin to bring it back down, but CES would certainly be worth trying out.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
Anyone tried to cross CES Neon Dust with a round thin slick poly?
I will try pretty soon Pro Red Code Wax 18.
 

liftordie

Hall of Fame
Excellent Purple is a good, low powered option. Tour Sniper would be another to consider, also, even though it's pentagonal.
Yes but it would be extremely low powered with CES in the mains... And maybe too harsh.
Maybe Irukandji could be better... Is it really stiffer than Liquid Neon Dust? With better tension maintenance?
 

SlvrDragon50

Semi-Pro
Just got my string in! I was hoping that my racquet would have been strung by now, but it's been almost a week. I've been playing with my old racquet which was strung 58/62 lbs, but its been years and I have no clue what the tension is like now.

Really want to dial in my tension before trying these strings out. I have to say I absolutely love the shade of blue on the irukandji. It'll clash with the RF but that's okay with me!


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liftordie

Hall of Fame
I thought you found the most perfect combination in the world with CES/Liquid Neon Dust hybrid. And x-perience before then...
The road to perfection is what will destroy us all.
But yeah, CES/LIQUID ND is better than X-perience. And I'm pretty sure that CES ND/PRCW will be even better. I will know it next week.
And what I'm sure about, is that my level is growing up every time I'm experimenting new strings, always with the same objective. I know where I want to go and the results follow.
Wonderful square string as CES ND in the main with crazy slick round string as PRCW in 18g (for minimum friction) is something to try. Really. When you are a fuc*ing spin clay player and only search to KILL your opponent. :sneaky:
 

Doubles

Legend
CES/Liquid Review

This is an interesting hybrid. Cube Extra Sharp is a very stiff main string which you notice immediately after you remove it from the packaging. The edges are very noticeable and sharp, though I did not believe I would cut myself on the strings as other posters have said. Liquid, the string meant for the crosses, is fascinating as well. It is very soft, you could even see it stretch on the stringer, and helps balance out the harshness of CES. However, unlike CES, Liquid doesn't maintain tension very well, which has created an odd feeling as the crosses started to bag out while the mains maintained a similar feel to what they did when fresh. The stringbed almost feels like a butterfly net in that the crosses have so much give to them now that the ball really sinks into the strings. I will not be surprised if the crosses snap before the mains.

Time played: 8 hours, still hasn't broken, and tension loss isn't too bad. I expect it to snap within the next outing or so, but I've been playing almost exclusively indoors on hard court so that helps the strings last a little longer.

Stringing: Honestly, not as bad as I thought it would be. Neither was the CES Neon Dust hybrid. I've strung a ton of racquets (over 1000) and this hybrid was far from easy to string, but it wasn't as bad a something shaped and twisted like Big Hitter Blue Rough or Solinco Barb Wire.

Spin: This is where I expected the most from the string, and I felt like it delivered well. I've hit with strings with more spin potential (Diadem comes to mind), but I had plenty of confidence taking full cuts and feeling like the ball would come back down. The sharp edges of the main string really grab at the ball well. It's a different kind of feel on impact than what you get from a Luxilon string, but more akin to something like Black Code 4S. I don't hit with the most spin (only a semi-western grip and I love to cling to the baseline and play on the rise) but I have solid racquet head speed and had no problem controlling the ball. This hybrid gets the job done for me in this regard.

Power: Low. The conditions haven't been the most ideal here for tennis recently, which also likely contributes to my experience, but there wasn't a lot of free power available. It doesn't help that Cube Extra Sharp is rather stiff, and I felt like really throwing my weight into my shots was yielding good results but at the expense of elbow discomfort.

Groundstrokes: Probably my favorite part of this string was the response and results I experienced from the baseline. I have pretty fast feet (though law school has slowed me down a step already) and I like to play up on the baseline: in other words, I miss a lot when I'm not timing the ball just right. The hybrid snags the ball pretty well, which helped me catch enough spin to play with some pretty high margins. At some points I even found myself flattening my grip out more to finish points. The edges on the main string were so sharp they were tearing the fuzz off of fresh balls in a way I've only seen before with Diadem Solstice. I even broke a brand new ball on a forehand return, which I don't believe I've ever done before, so that was cool.

Volleys: Not the best. As the liquid crosses continue to soften the stringbed feels more erratic. Volley's felt okay at first, very point and shoot, although the string bed is stiff enough that there isn't much feel. I can volley with just about any kind of string as long as connected to the string bed, and I felt this connection at first, but it quickly started to disappear. The more I hit with this hybrid, the more the string bed softens and I feel less confident aiming my volleys beyond very large targets. I know it's more the player than the gear, but confidence is an important aspect of the game and I haven't volleyed comfortably with these strings.

Serves: The Blade 98 is a great serving racquet, imo, and this hybrid really lends itself to aggressive RHS. Flat serves were nothing exceptional, but that's not the point of this string. Slice serves felt crisp with a nasty break to them like a slider from a right handed pitcher. I was impressed with how it felt on kick serves as well. When the strings were fresh, I found myself hitting my locations with solid spin yielding weak returns. I didn't find myself breaking any speed records with my first serve, but like a good breaking ball pitcher, it's more about where you locate your off speed stuff.

Overall: I'm curious to see whether Neon Dust will outperform this. CES was a little too stiff for my liking, and I could feel some elbow soreness starting to set in, although I haven't been able to play for a few weeks due to school, so perhaps that explains why my arm hurts. At its current price point, CES/Liquid is a great value for the money. Consistent response, solid durability and great spin potential. Grappelsnake is doing something right here.
 

SlvrDragon50

Semi-Pro
CES/Liquid Review

This is an interesting hybrid. Cube Extra Sharp is a very stiff main string which you notice immediately after you remove it from the packaging. The edges are very noticeable and sharp, though I did not believe I would cut myself on the strings as other posters have said. Liquid, the string meant for the crosses, is fascinating as well. It is very soft, you could even see it stretch on the stringer, and helps balance out the harshness of CES. However, unlike CES, Liquid doesn't maintain tension very well, which has created an odd feeling as the crosses started to bag out while the mains maintained a similar feel to what they did when fresh. The stringbed almost feels like a butterfly net in that the crosses have so much give to them now that the ball really sinks into the strings. I will not be surprised if the crosses snap before the mains.

Time played: 8 hours, still hasn't broken, and tension loss isn't too bad. I expect it to snap within the next outing or so, but I've been playing almost exclusively indoors on hard court so that helps the strings last a little longer.

Stringing: Honestly, not as bad as I thought it would be. Neither was the CES Neon Dust hybrid. I've strung a ton of racquets (over 1000) and this hybrid was far from easy to string, but it wasn't as bad a something shaped and twisted like Big Hitter Blue Rough or Solinco Barb Wire.

Spin: This is where I expected the most from the string, and I felt like it delivered well. I've hit with strings with more spin potential (Diadem comes to mind), but I had plenty of confidence taking full cuts and feeling like the ball would come back down. The sharp edges of the main string really grab at the ball well. It's a different kind of feel on impact than what you get from a Luxilon string, but more akin to something like Black Code 4S. I don't hit with the most spin (only a semi-western grip and I love to cling to the baseline and play on the rise) but I have solid racquet head speed and had no problem controlling the ball. This hybrid gets the job done for me in this regard.

Power: Low. The conditions haven't been the most ideal here for tennis recently, which also likely contributes to my experience, but there wasn't a lot of free power available. It doesn't help that Cube Extra Sharp is rather stiff, and I felt like really throwing my weight into my shots was yielding good results but at the expense of elbow discomfort.

Groundstrokes: Probably my favorite part of this string was the response and results I experienced from the baseline. I have pretty fast feet (though law school has slowed me down a step already) and I like to play up on the baseline: in other words, I miss a lot when I'm not timing the ball just right. The hybrid snags the ball pretty well, which helped me catch enough spin to play with some pretty high margins. At some points I even found myself flattening my grip out more to finish points. The edges on the main string were so sharp they were tearing the fuzz off of fresh balls in a way I've only seen before with Diadem Solstice. I even broke a brand new ball on a forehand return, which I don't believe I've ever done before, so that was cool.

Volleys: Not the best. As the liquid crosses continue to soften the stringbed feels more erratic. Volley's felt okay at first, very point and shoot, although the string bed is stiff enough that there isn't much feel. I can volley with just about any kind of string as long as connected to the string bed, and I felt this connection at first, but it quickly started to disappear. The more I hit with this hybrid, the more the string bed softens and I feel less confident aiming my volleys beyond very large targets. I know it's more the player than the gear, but confidence is an important aspect of the game and I haven't volleyed comfortably with these strings.

Serves: The Blade 98 is a great serving racquet, imo, and this hybrid really lends itself to aggressive RHS. Flat serves were nothing exceptional, but that's not the point of this string. Slice serves felt crisp with a nasty break to them like a slider from a right handed pitcher. I was impressed with how it felt on kick serves as well. When the strings were fresh, I found myself hitting my locations with solid spin yielding weak returns. I didn't find myself breaking any speed records with my first serve, but like a good breaking ball pitcher, it's more about where you locate your off speed stuff.

Overall: I'm curious to see whether Neon Dust will outperform this. CES was a little too stiff for my liking, and I could feel some elbow soreness starting to set in, although I haven't been able to play for a few weeks due to school, so perhaps that explains why my arm hurts. At its current price point, CES/Liquid is a great value for the money. Consistent response, solid durability and great spin potential. Grappelsnake is doing something right here.
What tension did you string it at?
 
CES/Liquid Review

This is an interesting hybrid. Cube Extra Sharp is a very stiff main string which you notice immediately after you remove it from the packaging. The edges are very noticeable and sharp, though I did not believe I would cut myself on the strings as other posters have said. Liquid, the string meant for the crosses, is fascinating as well. It is very soft, you could even see it stretch on the stringer, and helps balance out the harshness of CES. However, unlike CES, Liquid doesn't maintain tension very well, which has created an odd feeling as the crosses started to bag out while the mains maintained a similar feel to what they did when fresh. The stringbed almost feels like a butterfly net in that the crosses have so much give to them now that the ball really sinks into the strings. I will not be surprised if the crosses snap before the mains.

Time played: 8 hours, still hasn't broken, and tension loss isn't too bad. I expect it to snap within the next outing or so, but I've been playing almost exclusively indoors on hard court so that helps the strings last a little longer.

Stringing: Honestly, not as bad as I thought it would be. Neither was the CES Neon Dust hybrid. I've strung a ton of racquets (over 1000) and this hybrid was far from easy to string, but it wasn't as bad a something shaped and twisted like Big Hitter Blue Rough or Solinco Barb Wire.

Spin: This is where I expected the most from the string, and I felt like it delivered well. I've hit with strings with more spin potential (Diadem comes to mind), but I had plenty of confidence taking full cuts and feeling like the ball would come back down. The sharp edges of the main string really grab at the ball well. It's a different kind of feel on impact than what you get from a Luxilon string, but more akin to something like Black Code 4S. I don't hit with the most spin (only a semi-western grip and I love to cling to the baseline and play on the rise) but I have solid racquet head speed and had no problem controlling the ball. This hybrid gets the job done for me in this regard.

Power: Low. The conditions haven't been the most ideal here for tennis recently, which also likely contributes to my experience, but there wasn't a lot of free power available. It doesn't help that Cube Extra Sharp is rather stiff, and I felt like really throwing my weight into my shots was yielding good results but at the expense of elbow discomfort.

Groundstrokes: Probably my favorite part of this string was the response and results I experienced from the baseline. I have pretty fast feet (though law school has slowed me down a step already) and I like to play up on the baseline: in other words, I miss a lot when I'm not timing the ball just right. The hybrid snags the ball pretty well, which helped me catch enough spin to play with some pretty high margins. At some points I even found myself flattening my grip out more to finish points. The edges on the main string were so sharp they were tearing the fuzz off of fresh balls in a way I've only seen before with Diadem Solstice. I even broke a brand new ball on a forehand return, which I don't believe I've ever done before, so that was cool.

Volleys: Not the best. As the liquid crosses continue to soften the stringbed feels more erratic. Volley's felt okay at first, very point and shoot, although the string bed is stiff enough that there isn't much feel. I can volley with just about any kind of string as long as connected to the string bed, and I felt this connection at first, but it quickly started to disappear. The more I hit with this hybrid, the more the string bed softens and I feel less confident aiming my volleys beyond very large targets. I know it's more the player than the gear, but confidence is an important aspect of the game and I haven't volleyed comfortably with these strings.

Serves: The Blade 98 is a great serving racquet, imo, and this hybrid really lends itself to aggressive RHS. Flat serves were nothing exceptional, but that's not the point of this string. Slice serves felt crisp with a nasty break to them like a slider from a right handed pitcher. I was impressed with how it felt on kick serves as well. When the strings were fresh, I found myself hitting my locations with solid spin yielding weak returns. I didn't find myself breaking any speed records with my first serve, but like a good breaking ball pitcher, it's more about where you locate your off speed stuff.

Overall: I'm curious to see whether Neon Dust will outperform this. CES was a little too stiff for my liking, and I could feel some elbow soreness starting to set in, although I haven't been able to play for a few weeks due to school, so perhaps that explains why my arm hurts. At its current price point, CES/Liquid is a great value for the money. Consistent response, solid durability and great spin potential. Grappelsnake is doing something right here.
Thank you for such a thorough review! The CES/Liquid hybrid provides great playability, durability and value in my opinion!

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liftordie

Hall of Fame
CES/Liquid Review

This is an interesting hybrid. Cube Extra Sharp is a very stiff main string which you notice immediately after you remove it from the packaging. The edges are very noticeable and sharp, though I did not believe I would cut myself on the strings as other posters have said. Liquid, the string meant for the crosses, is fascinating as well. It is very soft, you could even see it stretch on the stringer, and helps balance out the harshness of CES. However, unlike CES, Liquid doesn't maintain tension very well, which has created an odd feeling as the crosses started to bag out while the mains maintained a similar feel to what they did when fresh. The stringbed almost feels like a butterfly net in that the crosses have so much give to them now that the ball really sinks into the strings. I will not be surprised if the crosses snap before the mains.

Time played: 8 hours, still hasn't broken, and tension loss isn't too bad. I expect it to snap within the next outing or so, but I've been playing almost exclusively indoors on hard court so that helps the strings last a little longer.

Stringing: Honestly, not as bad as I thought it would be. Neither was the CES Neon Dust hybrid. I've strung a ton of racquets (over 1000) and this hybrid was far from easy to string, but it wasn't as bad a something shaped and twisted like Big Hitter Blue Rough or Solinco Barb Wire.

Spin: This is where I expected the most from the string, and I felt like it delivered well. I've hit with strings with more spin potential (Diadem comes to mind), but I had plenty of confidence taking full cuts and feeling like the ball would come back down. The sharp edges of the main string really grab at the ball well. It's a different kind of feel on impact than what you get from a Luxilon string, but more akin to something like Black Code 4S. I don't hit with the most spin (only a semi-western grip and I love to cling to the baseline and play on the rise) but I have solid racquet head speed and had no problem controlling the ball. This hybrid gets the job done for me in this regard.

Power: Low. The conditions haven't been the most ideal here for tennis recently, which also likely contributes to my experience, but there wasn't a lot of free power available. It doesn't help that Cube Extra Sharp is rather stiff, and I felt like really throwing my weight into my shots was yielding good results but at the expense of elbow discomfort.

Groundstrokes: Probably my favorite part of this string was the response and results I experienced from the baseline. I have pretty fast feet (though law school has slowed me down a step already) and I like to play up on the baseline: in other words, I miss a lot when I'm not timing the ball just right. The hybrid snags the ball pretty well, which helped me catch enough spin to play with some pretty high margins. At some points I even found myself flattening my grip out more to finish points. The edges on the main string were so sharp they were tearing the fuzz off of fresh balls in a way I've only seen before with Diadem Solstice. I even broke a brand new ball on a forehand return, which I don't believe I've ever done before, so that was cool.

Volleys: Not the best. As the liquid crosses continue to soften the stringbed feels more erratic. Volley's felt okay at first, very point and shoot, although the string bed is stiff enough that there isn't much feel. I can volley with just about any kind of string as long as connected to the string bed, and I felt this connection at first, but it quickly started to disappear. The more I hit with this hybrid, the more the string bed softens and I feel less confident aiming my volleys beyond very large targets. I know it's more the player than the gear, but confidence is an important aspect of the game and I haven't volleyed comfortably with these strings.

Serves: The Blade 98 is a great serving racquet, imo, and this hybrid really lends itself to aggressive RHS. Flat serves were nothing exceptional, but that's not the point of this string. Slice serves felt crisp with a nasty break to them like a slider from a right handed pitcher. I was impressed with how it felt on kick serves as well. When the strings were fresh, I found myself hitting my locations with solid spin yielding weak returns. I didn't find myself breaking any speed records with my first serve, but like a good breaking ball pitcher, it's more about where you locate your off speed stuff.

Overall: I'm curious to see whether Neon Dust will outperform this. CES was a little too stiff for my liking, and I could feel some elbow soreness starting to set in, although I haven't been able to play for a few weeks due to school, so perhaps that explains why my arm hurts. At its current price point, CES/Liquid is a great value for the money. Consistent response, solid durability and great spin potential. Grappelsnake is doing something right here.
Really looking forward to your comparison with the Neon Dust version.
I personally find that Liquid Neon Dust is too soft for my liking... I can't find the control I want. Even at higher tension.
Tomorrow I will try Pro Red Code Wax 1.20 as a cross with CES Neon Dust main. Can't wait to hit the first balls with it!!! :happydevil:
 

SlvrDragon50

Semi-Pro
Since I expected it to be a bit stiffer than the neon dust hybrid I strung it slightly lower at 47/49. I play with the 18x20 Blade so I can afford to string a little lower and not lose control.
Gotcha. I want to try some lower tensions with my RF97, but I think 47/49 might be a bit too low for me. Though, I never considered the easier spin at lower tensions, currently liking 54/58 with my MSV Focus Hex and OGSM. I want to establish my tensions before trying out the Grapplesnake since I only have a few packs.
 

Doubles

Legend
Gotcha. I want to try some lower tensions with my RF97, but I think 47/49 might be a bit too low for me. Though, I never considered the easier spin at lower tensions, currently liking 54/58 with my MSV Focus Hex and OGSM. I want to establish my tensions before trying out the Grapplesnake since I only have a few packs.
I’ve never played with MSV Focus Hex so I havI no idea what it would play like. CES is stiff and low powered so I’d say you can safely string lower without problem.
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
I tried Alpha at 48 lbs. in my Clash Tour. Good directional control and decent spin. As I'm suffering from cramping in my hand and have thumb pad swelling (have had this in the past), I just strung one stick "down" to 35 lbs. and am resting until the weekend. I'll see how it goes. I'm still playing around with tensions in the Clash Tour as the normal rules don't seem to apply with this stick. It seems like lower tensions work better in this frame.
 
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