Discussion in 'Odds & Ends' started by quest01, Sep 16, 2012.
if wifi "on" drains battery then something is wrong.
Two batteries is the safe way to go. I bought the official extended battery for the S2, use that most of the time, but have the original battery (charged up) stored in my car as backup.
I also have something called a Power Monkey which is a portable charger type thing. Works really well and fast charging too: https://powertraveller.com/iwantsome/primatepower/powermonkeydiscovery/
But the vasty majority of the time, I get through an entire day fine with the S2.
The only thing that really burns through battery life are those 3D games, and all day long journeys in the car where everything is turned on to the max - GPS, phone SatNav / 3D live mapping/routing, max brightness, constant streaming audio/music via 3G, info/map/weather/traffic updates etc. The car cigarette lighter charger seems to barely keep up.
Agree with this.
True, but Apple peeps don't have that option. Can't remove the battery from the Iphone...
Power Monkey. Charges really quickly. The classic version is smaller and slightly more pocketable.
Or two iPhones then (seems like Apple peeps have to pay a premium for everything! ;-) )
Nah, we just buy a bunch of chargers. One for the car, the office and another for good measure.
Again, because unless an iPhone has battery issues, you don't need a second battery.
I have a friend with an HTC Thunderbolt. He gets 4 hours to a charge. Not 4 hours of use, 4 hours to a single charge...He needs two batteries, while iPhone users really don't.
Regardless, you can buy a power pack or a car charger for the same price as an extra battery, so it's not like the most power hungry apple users have zero options.
BTW, the Droid Razr Maxx doesn't have a removable battery, because it doesn't need one. The fact that Androids offer removable batteries isn't really a feature, it's a necessity because battery life on their devices has been relatively poor until this year.
Exactly. I can use my phone for 9 hours. That's usage time. 1 charge is 48 hours. I have no need to ever remove my battery or carry around a spare. I haven't even bought a car charger yet.
I still don't have a car charger or office charger for the 5. I'll wait for the cheap ones to come out on Amazon.
Uh, no sir thats incorrect.
The Razr does't have a removeable battery because its form factor does not allow for one. Motorala sacrificed alot to get the Razr to be the thinnest smart phone, the Maxx has what is essentially an extended battery standard and gets the best battery life of any smart phone. Not having a removeable battery is certainly a disadvantage at certain times.
Also, battery life was only weak on the first generation 4G LTE Android phones, which came out at least a year before the Iphone had 4G capability. My original MotoDroid got amazing mileage on one charge.
Apple has had a slight advantage on stock battery life overall, but thats mainly because the Iphone restricts its users far more than Android phones; multitasking limitations for example. Apples to apples (pun intended) Android and iOS are close in battery life, but Android offers far more customizability, while Apple is better at stability...
First off, the Droid Razr MAXX is far thicker than the Razr, and doesn't have a removable battery...Same with the new Razr Maxx HD. My point is, more and more Android phones are coming without removable batteries now, because they finally have battery life somewhat figured out. The Razr Maxx phones have the best battery life of any smartphone, that's true, and they're much thicker and heavier because of it. Generally, it's hardly a feature to be forced to buy a second battery because yours only lasts for 6 hours of being turned on.
Secondly, I don't understand this idea of "multitasking limitations" that you keep bringing up. Unless you're talking about the GSIII or the Galaxy Note II (neither of which you have), there is not a huge difference in multitasking between OSes. There was NOTHING on my old Android phone that I can't do on my iPhone. Listen to music and play a game at the same time? Sure. Get an email notification, check the email, then go back to doing what I was doing? Check. The Samsung multi-screen stuff is different, obviously, and that's multitasking on a new level, but there are just a couple phones that do that and it's Samsung specific, not Android.
Android blows iOS away from a customization standpoint. I won't argue that ever, but as you said, Apple gives unmatched stability and consistency, which to me personally is more important. I had the ability to do live wallpapers, widgets, shortcuts, etc. on my Android. In reality, I used very little. The more widgets I had, the faster the battery died. Live wallpapers slowed everything down and drained battery. The additional customization for me personally was more trouble than it was worth.
Thats a benefit of having a spare battery because you can use the phone the way you want to use it. You don't have to worry about brightness settings, forgetting to turn off bluetooth, wifi, etc... It makes a huge difference. I came from an iphone 4 and I know what it was like when it came to worrying about battery life. I had to set limits to conserve battery life where I otherwise wouldn't now on my gs3. Also I could go all day if I wanted to on my s3, a good thing about android is that it offers quite a few power management features.
I had no issues whatsoever transferring music via itunes to google play. I downloaded something called easy phone sync and that was it, it took less then 5 minutes. Also if they don't have a song I'm looking for on google play, I just go on itunes, download it, then transfer it over.
I dont have to worry about any of those things either. I turn off bluetooth because i dont have any bluetooth devices. My brightness is set to auto, which is perfect.
I spoke to several cashiers at Kmart tonight on 34th street while stocking up on supplies for hurricane Sandy and all of them agreed that iPhone 5 is far superior.
I own five personal computers and only one of them works (not for much longer, I am afraid). Can someone recommend a solid typewriter? Prefer German or Japanese models.
I've had the official Jelly Bean on the s3 for almost a week now, it's nice! It was fast enough for me before, but the speed is certainly improved. The dropdown to the notifications and settings are also alot better.
iOS6 might be better at multitasking now, I duuno. But previously, from what I heard, if you try to scroll a webpage as it's downloading, the page will stop loading so you can scroll. Downloading resumes only when you stop scrolling. I'm not sure if my friend's experience was related to multitasking but he was downloading a GPS app and maps that were more than 1GB to his jailbroken iPhone. Just when he was about done, some guy called him and poof, everything he's downloaded disappeared.
I don't think iOS is more stable than Android, especially Jelly Bean (which is WAYYY smoother than even Ice Cream Sandwich, even on my 2yo single-core 1 GHz Samsung Vibrant). iOS just makes it seem more stable, e.g. by crashing silently without notification.
I can't buy a product which names its operating system after food products. A guy has to have his standards.
You eat androids? Your dental bills must be huge! ;-)
Windows phone for him I guess, unless Apple and Blackberry are not food products.
That's not how it is for me on iOS 6 on an iPhone 5. It could have been worse before, but it's pretty effective now. On Verizon I can't do cellular voice and data yet, but if I have a download going and someone calls, it will pause and then restart after I hang up. If I'm at home on wifi there's no delay or hiccup.
I personally find it better than multitasking on my old phone, because now I see exactly what's coming through instead of seeing just an icon for an email or a text etc. They have likely changed that in ICS, but I love seeing who a text is from, or what's in the body of an email before I decide if it's important enough to stop what I'm currently doing.
The only big time android phone that does not have a removable battery is the razr and it's various versions! It has nothing to do with battery life, it's the design of the phone. Having a removable battery is definitely an advantage, it certainly doesn't hurt...
I said Operating System name, not company name. The iPhone uses iOS.
As for battery life, I'm just confused. My wife and I are now having great battery life with the iPhone. Must be something with Gmail, that is the only thing we have in common on our phones that we use all the time.
The new Nexus device from LG will also not have a removable battery.
What I'm saying is that it's becoming more and more common, as Android phones are shipping with bigger batteries now, and the Android OS is getting better at power management.
As for whether or not it's an advantage, I think NEEDING a second battery is a huge disadvantage. If you want to have a second battery for kicks, or in the case of long, long travel periods without access to a charger (though I honestly can't think of an example where that would be the case), then it makes sense I guess. I'd simply rather have a phone without a removable battery that gets me through a full day and then some, rather than have a removable battery that lasts for 12 hours of the phone being turned on.
What if you are traveling in the Arizona dessert and a coyote comes out and forces ur car off the road and no one else is around and u forgot to charge ur iPhone and the battery is running out but u can't exchange it like u can with an Android.
Now ur wife is really worried because she hasn't heard from u, all because the iPhone doesn't have a removable battery ...
If this ever happens, you can say I told you so
Why would I go to the desert with AT&T's horrible coverage there? Next question...
That's because the iPhone doesn't really do much as the Android phones in terms of constantly pulling down or updating data. What's your equivalent of the Pulse live tile widget for example?
Oh, I forgot, you don't have live widgets, just separate square buttons on the home screen that you have to press to start separate applications....
I used to have one of those old Motorola flip phones. It couldn't do much apart from calls and texts, but would last over a week between charges. It was good!
Explain the widgets thing to me. I just don't know anything about them since I've only tinkered around with Android for maybe 30 minutes. It took me about 15 minutes to edit a contact on my Mom's phone and another 15 minutes to setup a mail account on a co-worker's Android phone. It took me less than 2 minutes to figure out both on an iPhone. What I don't understand is all the Google desktop products are so easy to use but Android is not intuitive to me while the iPhone most certainly is.
Just Google it, but its like 'live' apps directly functional on the swipe screens.
Widgets arent that great. I had them for years. Never really saw the point personally. I love having no swipe screens now. It is awesome. I was always swiping around looking for something and now its all organized on the first screen. Too many widgets also sucked my battery down, so i would usually get rid of most of them.
Widgets are superb. The MetOffice app is invaluable as are the business calender / diary / 'to do list' notification widgets, newsfeed widgets etc. You just see stuff straight away without having to tediously start every single seperate app.
I honestly never used them. I had the calendar and everything and i think it just boils down to user preference. I love having everything organized on my main screen, but everyone is different.
I think some of the widgets are pretty cool like the task widget that shows all your tasks for a particular day. Also the bookmark widget, Facebook status, etc make it easier to access information quickly. The task manager and notification center are both much more informative than ios.
Swiftkey works a treat as a keyboard.
Yeah I use the SwiftKey 3 for the most part with haptic feedback enabled. It doesn't have the built in swype feature as on the stock samsung keyboard but the predictive text is a lot better.
Widgets are good and bad. If I had more than three at a time, battery life and phone speed were seriously comprised. That said, I loved my old weather widget, because it was cool looking. I also loved the power management widget where I could control Bluetooth, wifi, brightness, location services and and auto updates.
The downside to me was the battery drain and sluggishness, and the weather widget never auto updated so I had to open it if I wanted an accurate weather update. I'm sure a lot of that stuff is better in newer android OSes, but it wasn't great in 2.3.
I will agree with power player about icon management. I have 100+ apps on my phone, but I only have one home screen because everything is organized in app folders. That I like a lot.
I use widgets all the time, and can't imagine not having them. It seems silly to have to go into settings and apps when you can toggle Wifi, GPS, brightness, bluetooth (or Airplane Mode) with a single touch. These sit on my home screen.
Yes, I have the weather widget, and the people widget and the calendar widget on my other screens, with nice high-res pictures of my favorite contacts. These aren't very fancy widgets, so there is no perceptible battery drain, in that I go through a day and a half with no problems.
Whoever gave the HTC Thunderbolt example should know that this was the worst LTE phone in terms of battery life. Nearly all other phones are better. BTW, people talking about folders on IOS, you do know that folders are available on Android too, right?
That said, iOS is improving in terms of giving users quick access to data. E.g., Notifications used to suck royally, but now, iOS has an android-style dragdown which works pretty nicely.
That's a great aspect of the notification center is the ability to toggle brightness setting, bluetooth, wifi, mute, settings, etc with just a swipe. Sometimes when I use my ipad ill go into the notifications thinking I can change my brightness or turn on wifi and ill forget for a second that I can't. I've noticed using certain widgets could decrease battery life a little depending if they update automatically but I didn't notice any issues with sluggishness, I mean with ics anyways.
I never need to turn off wifi or anything besides blue tooth because the iphone doesnt really drain battery at all with it on. The gps never comes on unless i have an app using it, and then i just close that out. I also used those widgets on my droid, but i dont find them necessary on the iphone to be honest.
The point is: Saying that "Widgets are not a big deal because I don't need them" is not a very sound argument.
Further, Saying that "Widgets are bad because they drain the battery" is not a very sound argument either because many of them don't drain the battery.
They clearly provide functionality. E.g., Your bluetooth can toggle with one touch as opposed to going into settings to do so. You can see, weather or stocks without going into the app. If you don't need it, that is great. But, it still remains a feature that iOS does not provide for fear of compromising the battery life.
People used to say exactly the same thing about Notifications, which were implemented rather terribly in iOS. They would say "I don't really need notifications." Now, after Apple saw the light and introduced Notifications, everyone is saying that notifications are sooo awesome and I couldn't do without them.
Swiftkey is good, but for me, Swype is the bee's knees. I wish it was just baked into every android phone. Damn android fragmentation!
I love some of my live widgets. Streaming my stocks, weather.....
I also put all my apps in folders on the first screen.
Android is just a horrible, fragmented and dangerous open source OS.
Even Federer uses an iPhone. And Mirka switched recently as well.
Polaris. I had widgets and i dont now, and i dont miss them. There is no argument. It is my personal opinion. I simply never saw the need for them. Its just not really possible to argue over a personal preference so i dont understand why you worded it that way.
Now, that is a valid argument for the superiority of the iPhone over Android. Allez BOTE!
Sorry, didn't mean to be as harsh as it appeared. Thing is, I was referring to a trend that we see all the time: When iOS doesn't have a feature, users don't miss it. When they have it, they think it is the best thing since sliced bread.
It happened when the iphone 4S came without 4G, for instance, people rationalized their purchase of the 4S by saying that 4G wasn't yet a "mature technology". Then, they announced 4G, and the whole audience clapped like little children. I shouldn't complain too much about it though, coz my Apple stock is safe as long as this continues to happen .
We'll see. Maybe, when iOS introduces widgets, or NFC, or ...
Yes but i come from 3 years of having widgets and i dont miss them at all. I like everything on home page. I honestly do. I am resetting my droid now because i finally got a buyer for it, and i will not miss this phone one bit. Just being honest about it.
I get what you are saying, but we could say the same thing abut droid users who say they dont notice the difference between 30 and 60 fps, but once they upgrade to jellybean, rave about how smooth it is.
My widget for my stocks along with my Live wallpaper for Halloween! I love it.
My home screen with the Halloween Michael Myers live wallpaper.
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