Seems like he could be his straight up replacement
He certainly has better posture than Hunchback of Ferrerdam, and he doesn´t chain smoke like Ferrer.I think he has a better all around game than Ferrer. Hopefully he can continue to get stronger to improve his offense.
Agree with everything except the Hewitt comparison. Hewitt’s strokes on both wings were compact and secure, allowing him to take the ball early and dictate points from on top of the baseline. De Minaur has a wristy nextgen style ‘modern’ forehand that breaks down against heavy pace or spin on the rise.He reminds me of Hewitt more than Ferrer.
David had a weapon in his forehand, also return of serve, De Minaur is more weaponless(unless you count his foot speed as a weapon).
Ferrer did not look as good at De Miñaur’s age.Nah. Ferrer was a powerhouse. He could hit like a heavyweight and go toe to toe with almost anyone including Nadal on hards. De Minaur is a lightweight runner. Just another Gilles Simon pretty much except worse.
Very true. No disagreement there. He was like Stan in a way. Took him some years to really find his true potential. He had some amazing tournaments. Beat Nadal in 2 Grand Slams, pushed Murray hard in their meetings, had some good tussles with a young Novak, etc. Strong stocky guy with the fighting spirit of a hungry tiger.Ferrer did not look as good at De Miñaur’s age.
Remember that Ferrer had a late surge.
He'll never be a top player. He'll flounder somewhere outside the top 10 if he's really lucky. The Lleyton Hewitt types are passe. Too small and not enough firepower. Can't make a career these days of just running down every ball. Even Nishikori can't make a dent in the Slams and he's one of the most talented smaller guys on the tour with great speed and shot making skills.It’s not really fair to compare him to an extremely accomplished player like Ferrer. The dude is barely 20, his career has just begun. He doesn’t have many “weapons” yet but those can take years to develop. He’s as fast as they come and a hard worker, so I’d say he has a super bright future. But this comparison right now is pretty dumb.
In 2017 no one thought Medvedev would be as dominant as he has been in the past two years on HC , and his game is far more bizarre. People were putting him and his bizarre playstyle down too if I recall.I also don't think he'll ever be elite. He may be a pesky, tough out for years to come, but I don't see a slam champion in that body and game. Then again, Ferrer also wasn't a slam champion, so maybe the comparison fits.
? Since when is De Minaur a “smaller guy”? He’s 6’0. That’s plenty of height to work with. Just because he’s not a naturally aggressive player doesn’t mean he’s physically incapable of hitting with power.He'll never be a top player. He'll flounder somewhere outside the top 10 if he's really lucky. The Lleyton Hewitt types are passe. Too small and not enough firepower. Can't make a career these days of just running down every ball. Even Nishikori can't make a dent in the Slams and he's one of the most talented smaller guys on the tour with great speed and shot making skills.
True, if not for injuries, Lleyton would've had 10+ Slams in his arsenal.Only idiots like you think Hewitt had "no power" and 5'5" Ferrer did. This is a guy who traded shots with freaking Agassi and WON. In 2005 he was overpowering people from the baseline regularly. Injuries cost him, not "no weapons". Simpleton.
If Lleyton was so great, why is his name the first to come up when people are talking about Federer's weak era? Nobody respects Lleyton apparently. They call him a transitional champ.Your sarcasm sucks as much as Ferrer's top level.
How did his "forehand" fare against ATGs?
Lleyton beat Sampras 5 times in a row and has an equal H2H with Agassi.
this forum is weird when it comes to appreciation of players.If Lleyton was so great, why is his name the first to come up when people are talking about Federer's weak era? Nobody respects Lleyton apparently. They call him a transitional champ.
RBA said that Zhuhai courts are ridiculously slow, and every rally had the potential to go to 40+ shots.I don't think we should hype him up either, but I think he deserves a little bit more belief then what some posters have in him at the moment. De Minaur is ridiculously quick. I think he could easily be the fastest mover on tour at the moment. This year he has been getting balls back that 99% of other players couldn't even dream of.
What is really impressing me is that this year, De Minaur's on the run forehand has become a serious weapon. If he gets pushed out wide he can absolutely belt the forehand cross court for a winner which he did numerous times this week in Zhuhai. The opponent doesn't expect the sudden injection of pace.
He had a few injuries after the Aus Open and barely won a match between then and the start of the US hard court seasonDeMinaur's not having much joy in the rankings. He's won 65% of his matches this year and 3 tournaments in the process which at face value is a much better performance than a lot of players ranked above him, but is still only ranked 25 which is not even a career high. Is there some kind of conspiracy against him?
sadly most in this thread were probably calling him a weak era pigeon up until his retirementIt's heartening to see some maintaining an adequate elevation of Ferrer over this guy. Ferrer was a quality endurance player that had enough attacking ability and instinct to dismantle pretty much everyone outside the peak big 3.
I preferred watching paint dry over a Ferrer match.Hopefully not.
I feel like the only non Ferrer fan on this site. So glad I don’t have to watch loads of tight 5 setters w him all the time anymore. Think I drew the line a couple of years before he retired.
I like De Minaur more.
transitional champ is like the guy who took the reigns between 2 all time greats. Lleyton came in between the end of Sampras and the rise of Federer. A solid talent but not a guy who would ever compete alongside the greats. It was like Larry Holmes who came in between Ali and Tyson. A largely forgotten but very talented fighter who probably never got his due even despite his stellar achievements.this forum is weird when it comes to appreciation of players.
a top pro can be called mug, journeyman, clown.
so, simply because this forum doesn't consed Lleyton so great, doesnt' mean he was weak.
I think his achievements talk much more about him as opposed to this forum.
and what is a "transitional champ"? another fanboy BS?
and his BH has a hitch...Agree with everything except the Hewitt comparison. Hewitt’s strokes on both wings were compact and secure, allowing him to take the ball early and dictate points from on top of the baseline. De Minaur has a wristy nextgen style ‘modern’ forehand that breaks down against heavy pace or spin on the rise.