Is Del Potro the biggest hitter of all time?

Safin hands down. I've seen him in his prime and he rips the ball on average. Del Potro may get more MPH once in a while.

Safin was/is still my fave of all time. What a way to throw away your career.
 
i know how is forehand was back in 04. i followed him back then... thanks anyway! i still think it's debatable. not saying it is or not harder... just debatable...

well, even if it was 50/50, roddick has a much harder serve and overhead, meaning that delpotro has one shot that is harder than roddicks - the backhand. And to be honest having a harder backhand than roddick isn't good indication.
 
i know how is forehand was back in 04. i followed him back then... thanks anyway! i still think it's debatable. not saying it is or not harder... just debatable...



Roddick's forehand was certainly heavier. He hit it with more spin than Del Potro, who just clobbers it super flat.
 
DP's FH was downright scary at the USO final. I think even Fed was shocked by it and just couldn't reply with the same power.
 
I agree with the opening post, some of the idiots in response on the first page completely missed the point 35ft6 was making.

Del Potro hits hard on all sides and although Safin is definetely up there, the hard hitting is neither as consistent or as hard for the matter.
 
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Del Potro is getting up there.

There's bigger FHs than DelPo's FH, but nobody consistently harder on the run than DelPo. In other words, even if you move him around wide, he's going to kill that ball.

As for his BH, well let's put it this way. Regardless of how high that ball bounced or how much topspin is on it, that ball was seemingly coming back about ankle high and at 70+ mph. His optimal contact zone on the BH wing is so frigging large that almost everything you give him will be in his wheelhouse.
 
DP's FH was downright scary at the USO final. I think even Fed was shocked by it and just couldn't reply with the same power.

Surprised me too, and Fed couldn't even move a few times, the ball was already going past him.

Potro was pretty close this year to winning 2 slams, just a few here and there at RG and he could have won.
 
I don't care what anyone says, DelPo was hitting 105mph forehands with freakin' regularity in the 4th and 5th sets and the match went over the 3 hour mark. That's insane hitting of the type I've never seen before. Oh and he can hit 100mph on the dead run.
 
Gulbis has more all around power than anyone right now IMO, FH, BH & serve combined.

BTW, Does anyone know the speed of those Delpo returns vs Fed? There was one crosscourt that had to be about 110.

Gulbis!! Yet another ridicuoulsly overhyped player (boy are there are a ton of those today). Del Potro and Cilic both hit the ball much harder than Gulbis. Yes Gulbis is worthless in everyway except for his power but that still doesnt mean he is the hardest hitter.
 
Gulbis!! Yet another ridicuoulsly overhyped player (boy are there are a ton of those today). Del Potro and Cilic both hit the ball much harder than Gulbis. Yes Gulbis is worthless in everyway except for his power but that still doesnt mean he is the hardest hitter.


I'm not sure. Gulbis I think has more raw power than Cilic and is on par with Del Potro, but he has absolutely no consistency.
 
If we're talking serve and forehand combination, I'm going with Soderling. This guy absolutely pummeled Nadal on clay.

I don't think his backhand is quite as big as needed to be the top overall power guy, though.
 
I'm not sure. Gulbis I think has more raw power than Cilic and is on par with Del Potro, but he has absolutely no consistency.

I disagree. Cilic hits more winners than Del Potro in most of their matches. He certainly isnt doing that with much other than his power when you watch him play. Gulbis gets overpowered whenever he plays Del Potro and Cilic in addition to being outsteadied, outsmarted, outmaneuvered, outhustled, you name it. He is inferior to both guys in everyway, just a ridiculously overrated player like I said. Granted he does still hit every hard, the one and only thing he does well, I will give him that, but Del Potro and Cilic both still clearly hit harder. Cilic is the only player atleast that young who can rival Del Potros power but lacks the consistency, mental toughnesss, guile, and maybe even a bit the movement of Del Potro.
 
I'd have to go with Safin. His playing style is a constant barrage. Del Potro is more patient. He picks his spots.
 
I certainly would agree he from a basic standpoint had the offensive weaponary needed to succeed on hard courts, possibly even a faster hard court. The problem though was Kuertens swings were too long for a really quick surface and he stood too far behind the baseline on a really quick surface. On clay he had the time to take those long swings and swing through the ball beautifully and his court positioning was fine for clay. His only big win at the U.S Open I recall was once beating Safin, and well Safin is what he is. He did have some great wins in non slam hard court events though, including even faster hard courts.
 
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Can't believe everyone has forgotten a young Phillippoussis....he had every bit as much or more power as any of these guys..,and the young Scud hit OUT.....just was missing other things eg. brain/dedication! lol.
 
Can't believe everyone has forgotten a young Phillippoussis....he had every bit as much or more power as any of these guys..,and the young Scud hit OUT.....just was missing other things eg. brain/dedication! lol.

Yeah he hit out alright, as in hit out of court way too often.
 
To the Roddick fans, for a while, he had the biggest forehand and serve combination in tennis history. Bigger than Pete... bigger than Becker... bigger than Lendl. Perhaps not the best, but the biggest. In a practice session in Armstrong Stadium against Robby Ginepri back in 2000 or so, he hit one of the biggest forehands I've ever seen. Combine that with a serve that routinely hits the mid 130's, and we're talking serious power.

But besides his serve, Roddick is not as powerful as Del Potro. Roddick's backhand is a loopy, keep-me-in-the-point kind of shot. Not saying that's not a good thing, I'm not talking about the best tennis, just the most overall power. Roddick is more opportunistic, he can't generate the effortless power off the ground that Del Potro can't, his stroke production just isn't the same. When Roddick goes for power, you can SEE the effort, and he must wait for moments. With Del Potro, he's hitting hard effortlessly, and just as effortlessly, he suddenly hits something nuclear. And he doesn't necessarily have to wait for the right moment.

I've been high on Del Potro since I saw him at the 2006 Us Open qualies. On a different board, predicted he would be top 10. Not just jumping on the band wagon, even then, he could put some insane heat on the ball. And the crazy thing is he still has big room for improvement. Right now, he's basically hitting people off the court with incredibly sound groundstrokes. He's not swinging for the fences, his regular body shot is pretty tough to handle. But his point construction and transition game can use some work. And his serve was good in 2003, but it's way better now, and I think it's only going to get better. Against Fed, he was mostly hitting slices in the 5th set, and it was enough to give Fed fits. Scary.
 
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I would take Fed's or Sampras's forehands at there respective peaks over any of these biggest hitter types. They're bringing almost as much speed but there shots were more venomous producing winner after winner and also hitting winners in unexpected or difficult situations which just deflate the opponent. That being said JMDP is only 20 so I would hope his forehand will continue to improve. He certainly isn't lacking in the pace department. Let's see where he takes it from here.
 
To the Roddick fans, for a while, he had the biggest forehand and serve combination in tennis history. Bigger than Pete... bigger than Becker... bigger than Lendl. Perhaps not the best, but the biggest. In a practice session in Armstrong Stadium against Robby Ginepri back in 2000 or so, he hit one of the biggest forehands I've ever seen. Combine that with a serve that routinely hits the mid 130's, and we're talking serious power.

But besides his serve, Roddick is not as powerful as Del Potro. Roddick's backhand is a loopy, keep-me-in-the-point kind of shot. Not saying that's not a good thing, I'm not talking about the best tennis, just the most overall power. Roddick is more opportunistic, he can't generate the effortless power off the ground that Del Potro can't, his stroke production just isn't the same. When Roddick goes for power, you can SEE the effort, and he must wait for moments. With Del Potro, he's hitting hard effortlessly, and just as effortlessly, he suddenly hits something nuclear. And he doesn't necessarily have to wait for the right moment.

I've been high on Del Potro since I saw him at the 2003 Us Open qualies. On a different board, predicted he would be top 10. Not just jumping on the band wagon, even then, he could put some insane heat on the ball. And the crazy thing is he still has big room for improvement. Right now, he's basically hitting people off the court with incredibly sound groundstrokes. He's not swinging for the fences, his regular body shot is pretty tough to handle. But his point construction and transition game can use some work. And his serve was good in 2003, but it's way better now, and I think it's only going to get better. Against Fed, he was mostly hitting slices in the 5th set, and it was enough to give Fed fits. Scary.

Are you sure it was 03? He would have been 14 years old
 
To the Roddick fans, for a while, he had the biggest forehand and serve combination in tennis history. Bigger than Pete... bigger than Becker... bigger than Lendl. Perhaps not the best, but the biggest. In a practice session in Armstrong Stadium against Robby Ginepri back in 2000 or so, he hit one of the biggest forehands I've ever seen. Combine that with a serve that routinely hits the mid 130's, and we're talking serious power.

But besides his serve, Roddick is not as powerful as Del Potro. Roddick's backhand is a loopy, keep-me-in-the-point kind of shot. Not saying that's not a good thing, I'm not talking about the best tennis, just the most overall power. Roddick is more opportunistic, he can't generate the effortless power off the ground that Del Potro can't, his stroke production just isn't the same. When Roddick goes for power, you can SEE the effort, and he must wait for moments. With Del Potro, he's hitting hard effortlessly, and just as effortlessly, he suddenly hits something nuclear. And he doesn't necessarily have to wait for the right moment.

I've been high on Del Potro since I saw him at the 2003 Us Open qualies. On a different board, predicted he would be top 10. Not just jumping on the band wagon, even then, he could put some insane heat on the ball. And the crazy thing is he still has big room for improvement. Right now, he's basically hitting people off the court with incredibly sound groundstrokes. He's not swinging for the fences, his regular body shot is pretty tough to handle. But his point construction and transition game can use some work. And his serve was good in 2003, but it's way better now, and I think it's only going to get better. Against Fed, he was mostly hitting slices in the 5th set, and it was enough to give Fed fits. Scary.


Yes, but as someone pointed in a previous post - roddick hit with spin in 2003/2004 anyway, and still got amazing pace. I'm pretty sure that the roddick of 2003/04 was more powerful on the serve and forehand than delpotro.
 
Yes, but as someone pointed in a previous post - roddick hit with spin in 2003/2004 anyway, and still got amazing pace. I'm pretty sure that the roddick of 2003/04 was more powerful on the serve and forehand than delpotro.

Murray and Djokovic have a better forehand than Roddick imo.
 
HAHAHAHAHA, actually, i reckon djokovic does have a better forehand than roddick at the moment, but murray? please. But roddick's 03/04 forehand was deadlier than both combined.

Murray can generate a hell of a lot more pace on his forehand than Roddick without making UE's. Just watch Murray vs Nadal in MC this year.
 
Murray can generate a hell of a lot more pace on his forehand than Roddick without making UE's. Just watch Murray vs Nadal in MC this year.

One match isn't going to cut it. Federer proved in cincinatti that murray can't generate his own pace on his forehand side. I actually think that roddick has a bigger forehand than murray today even though he's lost about 40mph on it.
 
One match isn't going to cut it. Federer proved in cincinatti that murray can't generate his own pace on his forehand side. I actually think that roddick has a bigger forehand than murray today even though he's lost about 40mph on it.

In what way does that one match prove anything? When murray was on a role against Federer his forehand was rock solid and didn't break down.
 
In what way does that one match prove anything? When murray was on a role against Federer his forehand was rock solid and didn't break down.

Well, i think it's obvious that roddick's forehand is clearly better than murray's, even though it has got worse over time. Wimbledon proved this. The only shot that murray is better than roddick is the backhand.
 
Well, i think it's obvious that roddick's forehand is clearly better than murray's, even though it has got worse over time. Wimbledon proved this. The only shot that murray is better than roddick is the backhand.

Roddick's forehand at Wimby was the same as it was in Doha earlier in the year when they played. Loopey, hardly flat at all. Murray lost that match purely based on Roddick's serve which was on fire. Hence the fact he was able to control the rallies.
 
Roddick's forehand at Wimby was the same as it was in Doha earlier in the year when they played. Loopey, hardly flat at all. Murray lost that match purely based on Roddick's serve which was on fire. Hence the fact he was able to control the rallies.

Actually, roddick won the match because of his smart play, combined with his improved backhand and his powerful forehand.

serve: roddick
Forehand:roddick
Volleys:roddick, yes, im not mad
overhead:roddick
fitness:roddick
Backhand:murray

this is a fair comparison
 
Actually, roddick won the match because of his smart play, combined with his improved backhand and his powerful forehand.

serve: roddick
Forehand:roddick
Volleys:roddick, yes, im not mad
overhead:roddick
fitness:roddick
Backhand:murray

this is a fair comparison

No, Murray was returning balls in the middle of the court for Roddick to hit a smash or forehand drive and Murray couldn't do anything. That was due to his SERVE. there no smart play during the rallies

Anyway, that list of yours is quite frankly stupid. And no, its not a fair comparison.

Here's mine:


Serve:Roddick

Return of serve: Murray

Forehand:Murray (just about)

Backhand: Murray

Volley: Murray

Lob: Murray

Movement: Murray

Fitness: Murray

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It's very much one sided, but its the truth i'm afraid.
 
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