By rights, if I was really strict in my placing, and said for example that only tier 1 players are "all time greats" then my list wouldn't even include Connors and maybe not even Lendl. That's as far as I would ever cut it though. Although I can imagine the ****storm that would create. Vero lost it last time after all. It depends on how you define "all time great." I'd say I've said that at least 3 times in this thread. Close is only good in horseshoes and hand grenades.