Is Djokovic now the HUGE favourite to win US Open 2023?

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
Ideally yes he should be top 3 fav at all slams for next 12 Months but this is the last slam of the year, I don't trust his chances a lot here over the young guns. That having said, he is well rested since wimbledon, so it should not be much of a problem, lets see what happens. I would still not put him above the 2000s born who are all entering their prime now, no joke.
I still trust Djoko literally 50 times more than anyone not named Alcaraz dude lol
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
You really think so? I have a strange feeling he won’t make the final
USO for Nole has always been easier than Roland Garros. He won RG already. This is hc, his court. I think he will go to the final with Alcaraz in other half. Will Alcaraz go to the final is questionable.

Even if they meet both are equal favorites at this time.
 

nolefam_2024

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic at USOpen

2007 F
2008 SF
2009 SF
2010 F
2011 W
2012 F
2013 F
2014 SF
2015 W
2016 F
2018 W

Past 2018 he has had too many injury issues and other issues. His haters are salivating to see him fall but fret not haters. You may finally get to cry this year.
 

NYTennisfan

Semi-Pro
Absolutely not.

Carlos still big favourite. He was even worse last summer.
"Big" favorite? No way and I say that as one of Alcaraz's biggest fans. He's the defending champ but Djokovic wasn't there last year and he beat him at Wimbledon but it was a toss up match. I think he'll be the slight favorite because he's #1 and won the last slam but I think the odds will be fairly even as they should be.

The real question is can anybody outside of these two get their head out of their ass and do something of note? The drop off from #2 to #3 is frighteningly big right now. Some would say Medvedev but he hasn't been in good form for a long while. Sinner played well at the USO last year but he hasn't exactly taken that next step. Who else is out there? Bueller? Bueller?
 

Pheasant

Legend
I'd put Djoker as a slight favorite at the USO over Alcaraz. He will be fully-rested this time. And he won't have the massive pressure of a CYGS getting in the way. Djoker played incredibly well in NY last time until the final.

Either way, I hope that Djoker and Alcaraz play in the final. That's the marquee matchup that would be far more interesting than any other match.
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
"Big" favorite? No way and I say that as one of Alcaraz's biggest fans. He's the defending champ but Djokovic wasn't there last year and he beat him at Wimbledon but it was a toss up match. I think he'll be the slight favorite because he's #1 and won the last slam but I think the odds will be fairly even as they should be.

The real question is can anybody outside of these two get their head out of their ass and do something of note? The drop off from #2 to #3 is frighteningly big right now. Some would say Medvedev but he hasn't been in good form for a long while. Sinner played well at the USO last year but he hasn't exactly taken that next step. Who else is out there? Bueller? Bueller?
Don’t think Djokovic has anything for Carlos sorry to say. If he couldn’t beat him on grass I don’t see it going well in Flushing. Raz made his serve look absolutely ordinary and dare I say it, Novak looked old in comparison. I don’t think he can defeat the young gun pulsating with energy and youthful exuberance in a final, especially at a tournament where he has historically struggled.
 

NYTennisfan

Semi-Pro
Don’t think Djokovic has anything for Carlos sorry to say. If he couldn’t beat him on grass I don’t see it going well in Flushing. Raz made his serve look absolutely ordinary and dare I say it, Novak looked old in comparison. I don’t think he can defeat the young gun pulsating with energy and youthful exuberance in a final, especially at a tournament where he has historically struggled.
In terms of the Wimbledon win, I don't think Djokovic looked old, it was a battle of titans that very slightly favored the young guy. I don't think it was indicative of a Djokovic decline or the dawn of a new era of Alcaraz dominance over him, not yet at least.

While I agree that the US Open has been Djokovic's kryptonite, his last 2 appearances was him eliminating himself and a close loss in the finals to Medvedev who was on fire on the Hard Courts at that time, it's not like he's bowing out early in the tournament to tomato cans.

Now he has tons of motivation after the Wimbledon loss and all the chatter that followed starting to doubt him so this guy who has a Michael Jordan level of competitive fire is likely to be firing on all cylinders to get back on top. I know it was just Monfils but man did he look good, like he's ready to take on this Summer hard court season head on so while I'd favor Alcaraz slightly it's only slightly IMO.
 

Kralingen

Talk Tennis Guru
In terms of the Wimbledon win, I don't think Djokovic looked old, it was a battle of titans that very slightly favored the young guy. I don't think it was indicative of a Djokovic decline or the dawn of a new era of Alcaraz dominance over him, not yet at least.

While I agree that the US Open has been Djokovic's kryptonite, his last 2 appearances was him eliminating himself and a close loss in the finals to Medvedev who was on fire on the Hard Courts at that time, it's not like he's bowing out early in the tournament to tomato cans.

Now he has tons of motivation after the Wimbledon loss and all the chatter that followed starting to doubt him so this guy who has a Michael Jordan level of competitive fire is likely to be firing on all cylinders to get back on top. I know it was just Monfils but man did he look good, like he's ready to take on this Summer hard court season head on so while I'd favor Alcaraz slightly it's only slightly IMO.
If Carlos didn’t exist I’d have put probably my entire car payment on the Serb winning the USO and CYGS. This is really nothing negative about Djokovic.

It’s about how spectacularly amazing the young Alcaraz is and how frighteningly difficult it is to actually defeat him. This is true even though Djokovic is still great and I agree with all the positive praise of him.

He just isn’t on Carlos’s level at this age.
 

NYTennisfan

Semi-Pro
If Carlos didn’t exist I’d have put probably my entire car payment on the Serb winning the USO and CYGS. This is really nothing negative about Djokovic.

It’s about how spectacularly amazing the young Alcaraz is and how frighteningly difficult it is to actually defeat him. This is true even though Djokovic is still great and I agree with all the positive praise of him.

He just isn’t on Carlos’s level at this age.
Agree to disagree but the fun of it is that we'll find out in a few weeks. Carlos winning Wimbledon really saved the summer for a lot of tennis fans and made things a lot more interesting going forward, but I think the old dog has a lot of fight left in him still.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Djo disappeared after the Wimby loss because it hit him hard (his words). He wanted to build confidence back and is playing doubles to help (though lost in the 1st round in both), and finally back on court in singles to start his tune up for USO.

Alcaraz won Wimby just last month, had a blast playing Hopman, and now is playing a few tune ups to work on things and prep for a USO run.

But Alcaraz is in ruins.
TTW at its' finest.
 

Hitman

Bionic Poster
Djo disappeared after the Wimby loss because it hit him hard (his words). He wanted to build confidence back and is playing doubles to help (though lost in the 1st round in both), and finally back on court in singles to start his tune up for USO.

Alcaraz won Wimby just last month, had a blast playing Hopman, and now is playing a few tune ups to work on things and prep for a USO run.

But Alcaraz is in ruins.
TTW at its' finest.

Djokovic's next tournament after Wimbledon was always going to be Cincinnati, you can't disappear, if you were planning not to play until Cincy anyway, irrespective of the result at Wimbledon. It was planned time off from the tour.
 

ChaelAZ

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic's next tournament after Wimbledon was always going to be Cincinnati, you can't disappear, if you were planning not to play until Cincy anyway, irrespective of the result at Wimbledon. It was planned time off from the tour.


I mean, okay, but...

 

platypus50

Rookie
I'd put Djoker as a slight favorite at the USO over Alcaraz. He will be fully-rested this time. And he won't have the massive pressure of a CYGS getting in the way. Djoker played incredibly well in NY last time until the final.

Either way, I hope that Djoker and Alcaraz play in the final. That's the marquee matchup that would be far more interesting than any other match.
I agree with most of your post except for the bolded part.

Djoker was not that good level-wise during 2021 USO, he dropped opening sets to 4 opponents in consecutive matches (3R vs Nishikori, 4R vs Brooksby, QF vs Berrettini, SF vs Zverev) en route to the final where he was just a walking corpse (he looked physically and mentally spent when playing the final) and Medvedev lucked out big time with a cruisy draw and a spent opponent.

Would love to see Alcaraz vs Djoker in 2023 USO final - hopefully another 5 setter beckons between the two :)
 

MisterP

Hall of Fame
Who in the top 50 can challene Djokovic?

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nawoo

Rookie
Djokovic and Alcaraz are equal favorites

Sinner is useless and shouldn’t even be in the topic of favorite. He won a masters with a 250 level easy opponents and people are making him favorite?

Even djokovic’s current Cincy run is way more impressive

I hope to see a Wawrinka vs Djokovic match again. Or vs Alcaraz

Secretly hope Stanimal wins it
 
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