Is Djokovic the Pearl Jam of tennis?
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UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
No.
Because that would mean Djokovic plays a different sport.
Nirvana and AIC were heavy, they were "grunge" or whatever you wanna call them.
AIC played metal, Nirvana played some sort of alternative punk with metal influences, and Pearl Jammies were a pop rock group.
Because that would mean Djokovic plays a different sport.
Nirvana and AIC were heavy, they were "grunge" or whatever you wanna call them.
AIC played metal, Nirvana played some sort of alternative punk with metal influences, and Pearl Jammies were a pop rock group.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
It's more like Djokovic = Jay Z.
NoleFam
Bionic Poster
I never understand how a Nadal fan can call Djokovic boring. I get it if a Federer fan says it since he's known as the artist but not a Nadal fan. Djokovic has more surface range and dominated all surfaces at some point in his career. As a tennis fan, I find that more exciting than watching a player win 65-70% of their big titles/Slams at 4 or 5 venues.
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BauerAlmeida
Hall of Fame
Pearl Jam is a good band but can be a bit boring and predictable at times and to blame for the whole post-grunge scene. But I don't find Djokovic's game boring at all so I don't see the resemblance.
Federer and Nirvana is a valid comparison in terms of popularity and impact, they're both the biggest.
So I guess I would go with Djokovic as Alice in Chains in a way as he is not as popular as Federer and Nadal the same way AiC is not as popular as Nirvana and Pearl Jam. But you can make a case for Djokovic and AiC being the best of the 3 despite being less popular (But I can also see Nirvana as the best).
So Murray would be Soundgarden and Wawrinka Mother Love Bone?
Federer and Nirvana is a valid comparison in terms of popularity and impact, they're both the biggest.
So I guess I would go with Djokovic as Alice in Chains in a way as he is not as popular as Federer and Nadal the same way AiC is not as popular as Nirvana and Pearl Jam. But you can make a case for Djokovic and AiC being the best of the 3 despite being less popular (But I can also see Nirvana as the best).
So Murray would be Soundgarden and Wawrinka Mother Love Bone?
initialize
Hall of Fame
Federer: Backstreet Boys
Nadal: Nsync
Djokovic: Spice Girls
Nadal: Nsync
Djokovic: Spice Girls
Born_to_slice
Legend
I wish we could all grow up and understand how awful of a band they truly are.
So they are all...awful?
TearTheRoofOff
G.O.A.T.
A shame there are wrong sounds, huh. Anyway, I have no time for basically any of their last 6 or however many albums, so carry on by all means.
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Joking aside...
Heavy metal or metal, contrary to mainstream opinion, isn't just idiots dressed in denim singing about dragons while playing generic blues-based riffs.
Metal since the late 70s had drastically evolved, there are dozens of categories, many very different to the others.
Just because Nirvana's image was fake punk / fake rebels and they dressed like lumberjacks does not mean their heaviness wasn't to an extent metal-related.
Soundgarden too tried to negate their metal roots, despite the fact that all these pretentious Seattle kids grew up on metal, which is very obvious in their music...
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
all of them got aped pretty bad by the post-grunge/pop punk/alt metal crowd
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Pearl Jammies, they were the definition of boring and safe.
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
I'm talking about the music not the image. The only Nirvana song one could maybe call metal is Scentless Apprentice.
Soundgarden were transparently metal since the beginning even though they aligned themselves with the alternative crowd. They sometimes felt like a Black Sabbath tribute band lol (except Chris's pipes)
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Alternative metal was a real thing in the 90s. Especially early 90s.
It's not "either or". They did play alternative metal which is essentially what the whole grunge thing was initially. Soundgarden was Beatles meets Sabbath. Nirvana was far more alternative metal than punk.
Besides, punk means nothing. It is a term used more to portray an image (nearly always fake) and dress-codes than the music. Still, if we take a stereotypical punk riff, Nirvana had little to do with that...
Nirvana WANTED to be punk, and the left-wing media desperately also WANTED them to be punk. Because being a fake rebel is what half the rock scene is all about... Gives the powerless kids a sense of power to feel they're "rebelling" when in fact they're not even close...
N01E
Hall of Fame
Comparing tennis players, especially fedal to grunge bands is absolutely laughable. Djokovic is probably the closest you'll get to grunge from modern top players, but even that's a stretch and doesn't sit quite right.
Nu metal era in the late 90s, early 00s would be the tennis equivalent of all big 4 getting injured around 2012 and Nishikori, Dimitrov and Raonic taking their place instead.
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Nirvana had more in common with Pixies than with any metal band, as any non-deaf listener could tell.
Anyway, our purist friends over at the Metal Archives seem to have decided Alice in Chains and Soundgarden qualify to be a part of their encyclopedia, while Nirvana don't.
(although of course, this is the same website that doesn't consider Tool to be metal)
Anyway, our purist friends over at the Metal Archives seem to have decided Alice in Chains and Soundgarden qualify to be a part of their encyclopedia, while Nirvana don't.
(although of course, this is the same website that doesn't consider Tool to be metal)
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Nah there were some pretty good bands too. Deftones, System of a Down, and... huh... I'm sure I can name some others
many people speak highly of Slipknot but I never really got into them
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
Metal Archives?
Their criteria is notorious. There are a bunch of metal bands they don't accept - and always for image reasons.
To treat those 10 neckbeards at Metal Archives as the all-knowing sages who decide musical matters is as funny as trusting RT and CNN for political issues...
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Yeah I can't stand them either to be fair.
Total association with Djokovic and Pearl Jam, song to be played everytime he enters the court - " I am still alive". Would be quite epic!
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
What's next?
A thread comparing the Big 3 with animals?
With colours?
With kitchen utensils?
A thread comparing the Big 3 with animals?
With colours?
With kitchen utensils?
Dominic & Andrey
Legend
Zverev is Limp Bizkit
happyandbob
Legend
Federer is the Beatles
Nadal is Led Zeppelin
Djokovic is the Rolling Stones
Nadal is Led Zeppelin
Djokovic is the Rolling Stones
UnderratedSlam
G.O.A.T.
So you're saying Federer is 1000 times better than Djokovic?
A bit harsh.
Or you mean he takes illegal substances?
BauerAlmeida
Hall of Fame
Federer - The Beatles
Nadal - Rolling Stones
Djokovic - The Who
Murray - The Kinks
It's easy for 60's British bands.
Nadal - Rolling Stones
Djokovic - The Who
Murray - The Kinks
It's easy for 60's British bands.
happyandbob
Legend
didn't mean to start a rock band argument. I like all three bands equally and all three have a claim as the greatest rock band ever. and hard to differentiate the amount of illegal substances taken by the bands -- they are all elite at that too.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
But I want to justify ripping my racquet head off!
ForehandDTL
Semi-Pro
Does The Rolling Stones always own the Beatles in their peak? Rolling Stones is garbage.
Pink Floyd owned the Beatles in psychedelic rock. Their output peak to peak/H2H is also superior.
Nadal is PF
aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
That sounds like something Kurt Cobain would say.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Which coconut oil Bog roll do they most remind you of?
happyandbob
Legend
ForehandDTL
Semi-Pro
Djokovic is a chopstick. Nadal is one of those automatic chopping machines (because he chop you up on the clay, no?)
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
That's what Rafa himself has said:
1) “I can listen opera, I can listen classic music, pop, rock. It is true that electronic music is not my one that is the only music I can’t. But the rest of the things depends on the moment, depends of the mood you are in.”
"I Like Almost Everything": Rafael Nadal Reveals His Music Preferences - EssentiallySports
Rafael Nadal cannot travel without his music. So what does the 20-time Grand Slam prefer listening to. Read more to find out.
www.essentiallysports.com
2) Rafa was interviewed by ELLE (a lifestyle magazine) in 2013 and was asked a question about watching musicals. He answered: "Every year, I go to Broadway to see a musical — I like the music. I saw Mamma Mia; I saw Les Misérables; I saw Phantom of the Opera like six, seven times."
3) Spanish singer (& songwriter) Julio Iglesias (Enrique's father), the best-selling Spanish-speaking artist in history, became Rafa's favourite singer, when Rafa was a teenager and they have had a good relationship since then. Rafa has attended his concerts in Spain and abroad.
Julio Iglesias praises Rafa at his concert in Barcelona in 2013:
Rafa is a grandson of a musician, that’s where he inherited his love of music from.
...
Sampras-Bruguera 1993
Legend
Djoker is the GG Allin of tennis
Mustard
Bionic Poster
Be Here Now had some very good songs, but more below average ones than expected as well. Even if you think the album is great, it did end Britpop.
@aldeayeah the only person here that knows what they're talking about.
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
All my people right here, right now. D'You Know What I Mean?
Wow didn't know about that at all, but for some reason always associated the upbeat "Un Canto a Galicia" with Rafa, even though of course different parts of the country...
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
Julio Iglesias talks about Rafa:
“I would have loved to be Rafael Nadal’s father”
The following is an interview published in L’Equipe (by Frédéric Bernès) on Friday 27 December 2013 with the legendary Spanish singer Julio Iglesias, fellow countryman of Rafael Nadal. Julio …
rafaelnadalfans.com
ojo rojo
Legend
Lol at teen Rafa having similar taste in music to my grandmother. Bless
Queuing up for tonight's hot show
octobrina10
Talk Tennis Guru
I don’t think, Rafa has to queue. I'm sure, he gets tickets from somewhere else. For example, from someone, who has invited himLol at teen Rafa having similar taste in music to my grandmother. Bless
Queuing up for tonight's hot show
to dinner.
Here is a picture he posted on his IG account after attending Julio Iglesias's concert and having dinner with him in Indio (about 8 miles/ 13 km from Indian Wells ) on 9 March 2019, saying: “With the one and only, the greatest Julio Iglesias. Thanks for the amazing show and dinner! It’s always a pleasure to see you perform and be with you.” (The last sentence was translated from Spanish via Google.)
Source:
By the way, Julio Iglesias is younger that Paul McCartney, a member of The Beatles that is still popular.
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MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
All of em are basura
Djokodalerer31
Hall of Fame
Federer is Batman
Nadal is Superman
Djokovic is Flash
Serena is Wonder Woman
...and Murray...hey...he can be a sidekick for Blue Beetle probably...LOL
Nadal is Superman
Djokovic is Flash
Serena is Wonder Woman
...and Murray...hey...he can be a sidekick for Blue Beetle probably...LOL
I Am Finnish
Bionic Poster
Lol
RelentlessAttack
Hall of Fame
Pearl Jam became pretty mundane over time and I’m not the biggest fan but Ten is best of the big mainstream grunge albums. Personally I don’t think it’s that close.
In comparison to Nirvana, Nevermind was childish, In Utero less immediate, Bleach not fully formed.
AIC was more rooted in more traditional rock and mainstream metal tropes, plus Dirt is just way too depressing.
For Soundgarden, Badmotorfinger was cool but a little samey in comparison and Superunknown wasn’t as vital and could get a little repetitive at times
I guess Siamese dream had its own shoegazy vibe if that was your thing though obviously most wouldn’t put it in the same tier
To bring things back in I would still say Djokovic = Pearl Jam though. Explodes on the scene with exciting aggressive baselining (2007/08/11 Djokovic = Ten) before become a boring defensive player (later era Pearl Jam)
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