Is Djokovic wimbledon 24 draw is the easiest draw ever for him? And on the otherside his main rival has the one of toughest draw ever?

NatF said:
LOL
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just another normal day in...
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jmacdaununder2 said:
Number 3 seed can theoretically end up 64th or 65th in a 128 draw; I can see how Noleg’s extraordinary run of luck suggests otherwise.
Let’s see what the Olympics brings…
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You do realise if alcaraz had just kept his no2 ranking then this wouldn’t have happened? Djokovic would have had to beat both then.
 
jm1980 said:
Who does Alcaraz even have in his draw, aside from Sinner?

Of course, as the #3 seed, Alcaraz would always have to beat both Djokovic and Sinner to win the tournament (if seeds held)
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Sinner's draw is tougher and so is Carlos draw . It seems best possible opponents were cherry picked for him. Rune , Fritz?lol. Yeah all draws are same. Ugo, T paul, Sinner greater than Rune , Fritz/ Musetti
 
There are no grass players, so what to expect?

Injured opponent in the QF is bad for the tournament, but it happens.

#25 is coming unless Sinner/ Alcaraz raise their levels.
 
You cannot tell from 1 out of 3. From AO, Sinner was paired with Djokovic, because he did beat him at SF. At RG & WB, he was paired with Alcaraz. So there are 50% either way. In fact, 1 out of 4 has a 25% chance, so you can't tell from one year alone. 0 out of 4 has 12.5%, so it's unlikely, but not impossible!

The thing about Federer-Djokovic coupling was that it happened 12 times in a row, so it was impossible!
 
Lauren_Girl' said:
He is ranked #2, what did you expect? Zverev and Alcaraz are 3 and 4, they couldn't both end up in his half. That's how draws work. It was either Zverev or Alcaraz. 50-50. This time he was luckier than Sinner but yeah, it's 50-50. Let's not forget about the Big-3 Era when Djokovic-Nadal-Federer were ranked 1, 2, 3 and when Federer was systematically landing in Djokovic's half, giving Nadal the easiest draw. He has been on the hardest side of the draw more often than Nadal, in general...

Hurkacz was clearly the most dangerous top-8 on grass (compare to Ruud, Rublev and Medvedev) and he was in Djokovic's quarter. Not Nole's fault if he couldn't beat Fils.

Berrettini, that's all you have got? Djokovic's favorite Slam pigeon who just came back from an inury, dropped to #60 and hasn't done anything in Slams since AO2022? Please.
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2 should draw number 3 and 1 should get the easier number 4 seed.
 
junior74 said:
There are no grass players, so what to expect?

Injured opponent in the QF is bad for the tournament, but it happens.

#25 is coming unless Sinner/ Alcaraz raise their levels.
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What are these grass players you are looking for? Shouldn't Djokovic with how good he still is despite his age, be favoured in QF rounds?
 
mike danny said:
I mean, when was the last time Novak even had a difficult Wimb draw? Or a difficult GS draw? All of his GS draws since FO 2021 have been pretty easy.
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2014 Wimbledon is the answer for both (in a slam he won)

2018 was of course good due to Nadal (but not the most difficult due to rest of the draw)
 
nolefam_2024 said:
The naysayers get their butt hurt after every tournament nowadays. Not sure what they are doing.
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Then why are you guys feeding those trolls and responding? Half of this thread is Djokovic fans trying to defend a draw that is random and there’s no draw other than a draw where Djokovic loses early that will satisfy these guys. No one is going to magically change their opinion just because you made some points on ranking and discuss the strength of the field. Keep your sanity and send positive energy to Djokovic via water or whatever medium he prefers.
 
pirhaksar said:
Then why are you guys feeding those trolls and responding? Half of this thread is Djokovic fans trying to defend a draw that is random and there’s no draw other than a draw where Djokovic loses early that will satisfy these guys. No one is going to magically change their opinion just because you made some points on ranking and discuss the strength of the field. Keep your sanity and send positive energy to Djokovic via water or whatever medium he prefers.
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I don't respond nowadays

I insult and move on..trolls have low quality posts.
 
Hitman said:
2023 - faces Hurkacz, Sinner, Alcaraz - It was a weak draw

2024 - he should have played Hurkacz, Alcaraz, Sinner so he had a tough draw for once

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23 was the only competitive slam of the year lol. AO and USO were a shambles and RG fell apart after 2 sets of the semi.
 
Hitman said:
There is no competitive slam in the hyper super career inflation era.
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For most of 2021-2023 I’d agree but Alcaraz and now sinner since AO have shown some potential ATG quality which puts them above the likes of Ruud, Tsitsipas berretini
 
fedfan24 said:
For most of 2021-2023 I’d agree but Alcaraz and now sinner since AO have shown some potential ATG quality which puts them above the likes of Ruud, Tsitsipas berretini
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We will see. If Djokovic wins Wimbledon, you know we will be hearing excessively about the hyper super career inflation era.

There will be no decent era until Djokovic finally retires and is no longer capable of being a threat.
 
NeutralFan said:
Sinner's draw is tougher and so is Carlos draw . It seems best possible opponents were cherry picked for him. Rune , Fritz?lol. Yeah all draws are same. Ugo, T paul, Sinner greater than Rune , Fritz/ Musetti
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Interesting how Rune is now a "LOL" opponent when it wasn't that long ago that Djokovic haters were practically begging for tournaments to put Holger in Novak's path

Djokovic was also expected to play Hurkacz and Zverev, which aren't that easy on grass. It's not his fault those guys got injured
 
Hitman said:
We will see. If Djokovic wins Wimbledon, you know we will be hearing excessively about the hyper super career inflation era.

There will be no decent era until Djokovic finally retires and is no longer capable of being a threat.
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If he goes through a fresh and fully fit alcaraz or sinner then it’s a decent win, albeit helped by the cupcake draw on his side.
 
Krish0608 said:
This is the only way the old man is ever going to win a slam again. Not meet Alcaraz / Sinner back to back. Beat up on clowns and mugs while Alcaraz / Sinner kill each other on the other side. Seems like the stars are perfectly aligning for him.
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Djokovic is preferred by the Wimbledon organization, after all.
 
bum hip ADM and exposed footwork Fritz is a walk in the park for him. Seems like the final could be against Paul or Med.
 
JFK_32 said:
Med gonna troll this tournament, will beat alcaraz in sf and lost straight in final against Djokovic
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That will be perfect. I have always wanted Fed to own the Wimb record as I believe he is Wimbledon’s greatest but seeing his rabid fanboys discredit Novak wants me to wish for Novak to steal that last one too.. the misery that will unfold will be spectacular to watch
 
Wow... In the end the most difficult draw has turned out to be Medvedev's: N1 in QF, N3 in Semis and, probably, N2 in the final And he and his fans are facing it silently, without complaining, with true humility
 
pirhaksar said:
That will be perfect. I have always wanted Fed to own the Wimb record as I believe he is Wimbledon’s greatest but seeing his rabid fanboys discredit Novak wants me to wish for Novak to steal that last one too.. the misery that will unfold will be spectacular to watch
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One to equal it but two to steal it - last one to equal, not steal, is Olympic gold.
 
fedfan24 said:
If he goes through a fresh and fully fit alcaraz or sinner then it’s a decent win, albeit helped by the cupcake draw on his side.
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There’s no such thing as a “decent” win. You either win or you lose. Fed won multiple Wimbledons against Roddick who is a complete pigeon. What was the final tally? 21-3? That was his great competition?

Guys, I know you were not expecting Novak to win so much. But give it a rest already
 
xFedal said:
Wow... In the end the most difficult draw has turned out to be Medvedev's: N1 in QF, N3 in Semis and, probably, N2 in the final And he and his fans are facing it silently, without complaining, with true humility
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No 'Winners are Whiners' philosophy - how refreshing in comparison with the RUUUUUNNEEE debacle.
 
xFedal said:
Wow... In the end the most difficult draw has turned out to be Medvedev's: N1 in QF, N3 in Semis and, probably, N2 in the final And he and his fans are facing it silently, without complaining, with true humility
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What fans? :unsure:
 
Hitman said:
We will see. If Djokovic wins Wimbledon, you know we will be hearing excessively about the hyper super career inflation era.

There will be no decent era until Djokovic finally retires and is no longer capable of being a threat.
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You've been watching this sport for a long time... and I know your stance that all slams are equal.

But take this draw in isolation, which of Djok's opponents so far do you see as tough?
 
Hitman said:
We will see. If Djokovic wins Wimbledon, you know we will be hearing excessively about the hyper super career inflation era.

There will be no decent era until Djokovic finally retires and is no longer capable of being a threat.
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I think it will actually continue with alcaraz. It not fair on him either but should he start dominating a lot of big 3 fans will start to gang up on him and resent his dominance. They will say he’s lucky he’s not playing peak/prime big 3. You can only beat what’s there and alcaraz does it so well already.
 
The_Order said:
You've been watching this sport for a long time... and I know your stance that all slams are equal.

But take this draw in isolation, which of Djok's opponents so far do you see as tough?
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People will do the same with alcaraz too if he starts dominating. Alcaraz is a special player who’s already basically an ATG at 21. However, probably a lot on here with start moaning about his draws or he wouldn’t beat peak/prime big 3 if he keeps winning and starts to dominate. It will shift to him which isn’t right. You can only beat what’s there.
 
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The_Order said:
You've been watching this sport for a long time... and I know your stance that all slams are equal.

But take this draw in isolation, which of Djok's opponents so far do you see as tough?
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Rune was lackluster, I expected more from him. Popyrin and his second round gave him moderate resistance, as both were pressing for a fifth. That is it.
 
Hitman said:
Rune was lackluster, I expected more from him. Popyrin and his second round gave him moderate resistance, as both were pressing for a fifth. That is it.
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Yeah Popy did put up some resistance, his second round I'd put that more on Djok not playing anywhere near his best.

Of the potential remaining matchups which do you feel could actually give him a true test? I can't see adm giving him any problems, neither will Fritz... Mussetti has been a bit of a tough match up for him at RG... who knows on grass though, I have my doubts...
 
Djokovic_is_the_best#1 said:
People will do the same with alcaraz too if he starts dominating. Alcaraz is a special player who’s already basically an ATG at 21. However, probably a lot on here with start moaning about his draws or he wouldn’t beat peak/prime big 3 if he keeps winning and starts to dominate. It will shift to him which isn’t right. You can only beat what’s there.m
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Of course that's going to happen...

You're right, you can only beat what's there... which is why what's there has been heavily criticised the last few years... it's been quite bare to say the least...

Alcaraz will need to beat Djok in this year's final without a struggle... if he can't get it done in 4 sets max, then of course people are going to attribute Djok's loss to his age... that's what makes sense...
 
The_Order said:
Yeah Popy did put up some resistance, his second round I'd put that more on Djok not playing anywhere near his best.

Of the potential remaining matchups which do you feel could actually give him a true test? I can't see adm giving him any problems, neither will Fritz... Mussetti has been a bit of a tough match up for him at RG... who knows on grass though, I have my doubts...
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Honestly, I really need to see the Fritz vs Musetti match in full today. My concern for Lorenzo was, his post match interview heading into the quarters felt like he was content with what he got. I picked him as a dark house at start of Queens, he has done well so far, Fritz I feel is more natural on grass in comparison, so he is likely to come through.

Lorenzo always plays Novak hard, so going on history, he would be the tougher hurdle of the two.

In the final, clearly Alcaraz first. He is the one guy who can win and take the match out of Novak's hands, even if Novak is playing well, but he will gave the tougher semi.
 
Hitman said:
Honestly, I really need to see the Fritz vs Musetti match in full today. My concern for Lorenzo was, his post match interview heading into the quarters felt like he was content with what he got. I picked him as a dark house at start of Queens, he has done well so far, Fritz I feel is more natural on grass in comparison, so he is likely to come through.

Lorenzo always plays Novak hard, so going on history, he would be the tougher hurdle of the two.

In the final, clearly Alcaraz first. He is the one guy who can win and take the match out of Novak's hands, even if Novak is playing well, but he will gave the tougher semi.
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Well... his path got a little easier now that de minaur has pulled out of the event...

not that he was going to trouble him much anyway...
 
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